jodgi

You know how I am a dreamer bordering on sheer stupidity...

True. PZs are ostensibly made for me. I used to do PZ's exclusively during their early days. The old "gank-or be ganked" mentality quickly took hold of PZ and my interest waned. I'm not really that hot for medals, I want fun fights more than anything. It takes me seconds to craft a better ship. Cannons cost roughly half the ship. When I craft a ship I do it so cheaply I get more than the cost back. I lose only a small portion of the gun crafting cost. If I take a DLC out and lose it I lose the full cost of the guns because there is no insurance for DLC ships. I already told you I'm more than fine with spending 5-10 min. each week. It will be less after port investment. But I explained how insurance is great for me because I craft on a budget; I get almost everything back and have no need to grind cash. Have all the ships, haven't used them yet because they cost me more reals. I've used crafted ships exclusively. Like I said I did PZs a lot, but have almost stopped. I've been sitting inside the solo PZ with Diana, frigate and cerb. Noone would tag. I've had a bit of fun in the Nassau solo zone, but I lost my last Niag a few weeks ago trying to get out. Without rewards for the loser I fear solo PZ will become a fake feature, I may sit there because I know I get everything back if I lose the ship, but people prefer the gank zones in the hope they end up on the strong side + some rewards even if they end up on the weak side. I've done a tiny bit of OW hunting as well. Me and Laik hunted for an hour in the general area around Navasse without finding anything, as we were heading back to LT we ran into a herc we smashed out of boredom. I've also hunted solo in a cerb. I figured anyone would engage me in such a shitty ship. A brit req ran away but I was finally able to sink a Prussian Indiaman before I gave up on the cerb experiment. Nobody came for a full 90 minutes. I don't care about reals. I just take great care so I don't ever (hopefully) have to go grind reals.

I think you're on to something. The fear isn't always rational, but the problem of perception annoyingly remains despite logic. But are you surprised? Arena airheads get tired of the ganking which makes us lose ships and run out of ship tows. Ganking isn't fun and no tows is a showstopper. 1v1 zone is without rewards for the loser because of farmers. PZ is gank-zones because of sandbox and faction based fear of griefing (refer to admin's posts on the subject).

YES! Sure, I'm probably a unique fool on the hill. This is a big subject that I tried to process in another topic. You can't put that on me. I'm just one weirdo with an opinion. If my opinion dominates it's because of all the other dudes who share my opinion, I don't know how many we are but we're always told we're an insignificant poot in the statistical universe. And I approve of you fighting for it.

No, not at all. Let's see if I'm able to explain... Yes. I am someone who likes to play against people exclusively. I have limited patience with anything and everything that is not pure PvP and I seek to avoid it as hard as I can. I have done a lot of crafting in order to have all kinds of fighting equipment available to me. I've used alts so that it has only taken me about 5-10 minutes each week to get more stuff than I need to craft whatever I want. Things are a bit different now. I no longer have access to whatever I want but I'm kinda numbed into accepting that I will have to do with oak/oak ships mostly without meta mods. I have all the prem ships and I will use them from time to time, but I lose more cash when I lose prems than when I lose my shitty crafted ships. Own crafted ships will be my main workhorses so that I avoid having to go out and get reals. I know that I can go out and print reals but I'd rather take up knitting or something. WAY too expensive and they're usually worse than own crafted oak/oak ships which are significantly less expensive in my setup. The selection is rather poor and it's a no-go for me to sail around looking for an almost decent ship. Nothing is more unreasonably expensive than buying ships from crafters. Reals and doubloons is what I lack the most due to my PvE aversion. My crafting setup allows me to make ships for almost nothing and I occasionally help out fellow PvPers by giving them ships just as I have been given ships by other PVPers for free. Capping bots is just like buying from admiralty. I exchange my time for a ship that is usually worse than those I craft myself in no time. Doran recently gave me two Russian player ships he capped, so capping ships from players is indeed viable. (I crafted a bunch of endys to fill his docks before the changes hit) I want the impossible, but I need the PvP/PvE ratio to be extremely high and I struggle with motivation in consequence. I'm getting along (using alts) just fine without it, but I welcome anything that allows me to save additional time. Except for rare woods it will be just as quick for me to click out a crafted ship as it is to click out a prem ship.

Ah, I should check that out. Thanks for the tip!

It's not, though I appreciate the effort to include me in the grand eco scheme. You play EVE so I fully understand why you fight for eco. I've given a very wide berth to EVE, not because of spaceships but because that game is a near perfect example of eco gameplay.

Yea, that was unfair. I lobbed you in with with the DLC whiners.

I simply forget about the things that I'm blocked from, by my refusal to grind appropriately, and use the things that are easy to get.

Your idea simply involves extra work, I suspect it's just that.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Even before player production I started the first of my many schemes to avoid as much contact as possible with eco gameplay. In the early days I actually advocated for the removal of everything eco, I've dialed back on that because I don't want to ruin someone else's fun (however inexplicable it is to me). I started asking for premium ships in early 2015 in order to have a back door out of the eco gameplay. We premium ship users will let you enjoy your eco stuff. Why do you seek to keep us from playing the game how we like?

Shortcut gets the job done at an extremely attractive price point.

You only proved you don't craft as cheaply as I.

You don't have to use the port investment feature, you can keep on sailing.

The opening post is about exactly that.

No. Just watching you write that the masses like arena games is quite enough for me.

Ye, like the wot, wows and WT ghost towns.

Your entire topic hinges on this but you don't bother to explain why "it's not enough".

Don't tempt me

So, I've done my eco homework while you haven't.

And how does that separate DLC user and ship crafter?

You're not paying attention to your precious eco then, because they lose their guns while guys in cheap crafted ships get almost every penny back.

I wonder how privileged you think I am? It sounds like an interesting question, but I don't quite know how to answer. I have about 3k dubs, 17 CM and only ready access to fir and oak. (Also keep in mind I'm an arena degenerate and not an eco fan)

You are aware of the map GPS perk, right?

I'm also, for all practical purposes, blocked from using the ships I want. I remember when we didn't go out in anything other than golden ships with the right woods and optimal regional bonus. That got deleted and people whined, but the whining died off eventually. Today golden ships still exist but remain somewhat rare. Now the meta and the strongest ships in each class are made rare and people whine. I bet the whining will die off much like it did before as people get used to not always having the best ships available. How terrible. Want to use a virtually free ship? Craft an Essex. Have some dubs to spend? Craft an Agamemnon. Are you a PvP hero? Exchange all your medals for anything you want, probably even an Endy. Are you an eco powerhouse? Spend all your hyper-inflation reals to get pretty much anything you want. It's neither here nor there for me. You guys can change it in any direction you like, I'll just roll with it whatever you do.