USS Delaware

[CompassRose]

On the subject of possible ships to put in the game, are the 1820 US lineships under consideration?

 

Example is the USS Delaware.

 

 

Crew compliment: 820 men

 

Armament

30 long 32-pound guns

30 medium 32-pound guns

2 x 32 pound carronades

[BrutishVulgarian]

I would hope the game lets us explore alternate history.   I wouldn't mind seeing King Washington build line ships out of live oak and whooping the tar out of them Europeans.

 

I would also like to see Russia, the U.K., Spain and the U.S. have a 4 way brawl for the Pacific coast of North America.

[maturin]

I hope they hold the technology level at the Napoleonic Wars, involving ships that actually saw combat and filled out battlefleets. The Delaware is just verging on unfair.

[Johny Reb]

On the subject of possible ships to put in the game, are the 1820 US lineships under consideration?

 

Example is the USS Delaware.

 

Is that picture by chance from the Mariner's Museum?

 

I've also mentioned the Pennsylvania 1821 that just outside their time frame

[Ned Loe]

I am sure there will be a lot of variants for each nation.

[TopNard]

USS Delaware armament :

 

1833: Lower Gundeck 32 x 42-pdr ; Spardeck 32 x 32-pdr ; Forecastle 28 x 42-carronades

1841:Lower Gundeck 28 x 32-pdr + 4 x 8-inch ; Spardeck 30 x 32-pdr + 4 x 8-inch; Forecastle 22 x 42-carronades

1841:Lower Gundeck 28 x 32-pdr + 4 x 8-inch ; Spardeck 28 x 32-pdr + 4 x 8-inch; Forecastle 16 x 32 + 4 x 8-inch

 

If we consider as 8-inch the British ML 8-inch shell gun in service from 1825, the shells are about to 49 - 51 pounds.

 

Source: http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/916132/USS%20Delaware%20(1820)

[Talos]

They /are/ virtually the same as the British guns in most respects. Nearly the same weights (63cwt and 55cwt versus 65cwt and 50cwt), designed to fire the same Paixhans-pattern shells. The American guns were part of the reorganization of Naval guns, standardizing on the 8" shell gun and 32-pounder firing shot and shell, both in various barrel lengths. The original 63cwt gun didn't come into service until 1841 though and the 55cwt for upper decks in 1846. That original, older pattern is styled after the French guns Paixhans did, with a noticable smooth muzzle. The 55cwt and then a second-generation 63cwt version went back to the typical American gun look. There was a structurally weak 10" shell gun that was introduced alongside the original 63cwt gun and shared the same style.

 

Delaware's new armament was actually established in 1845 (the last one of the three there). It was as follows:

 

Lower Deck: 32-pounders of 57cwt + 4 x 8" of 63cwt

Upper Deck: 32-pounders of 57cwt + 4 x 8" of 63cwt

Spar Deck: 32-pounders of 32cwt (or of 42cwt, possible) + 4 x 8" of 55cwt

 

Because the 55cwt gun wasn't in service in 1841, it makes sense that you would get that interim armament with the old 42-pounder carronades on the spar deck first. I drew up exact drawings of this 1840s system of guns for the Navy from their dimensional table. I'm linking it here for reference:

 

http://i.imgur.com/fyoc9ex.png

[Haratik]

I'd rather see one of the earlier ships of the line, despite their design flaws, such as the America, the Franklin, or the Independence rather than these later designs.