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Amfitrite Spanish, 1796 38-gun Frigate Captured by the British in 1804, renamed Blanche in 1805 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/383991.html https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/HMS_Blanche_wrecked.jpg Sources : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=3044 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Amfitrite_(1804)

Unnamed Spanish 50-gun frigate (1797) (Proposed plan) http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79966.html

Unnamed Spanish 54-gun two-decker (no date) (Proposed ?) plan made in 1812. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79965.html

Some beautiful Spanish plans. Make your choice and add it to http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7306-player-ship-selection-1st-half-2016/ : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79892.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81587.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81320.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81094.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81740.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79891.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79833.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80832.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81586.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80554.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81115.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81104.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80545.html (have a look at that one, for example !!!) http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80957.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80958.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81127.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80547.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80454.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79962.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79963.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79961.html For example : The San Josef (1797) http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79891.html

Thx for the answer. Btw all my posts are inside timeline .

Question to Admin / Moderators about Player ship Sel. 2016 : - Does proposals have to include drawings and plans to have a chance to be brought to voting and then modeled ? - Are proposals with only pictures of reconstructions and/or of wooden models sufficient for the devs to modeled NA ships ?

Un livre sur la marine vénitienne des XVII et XVIIIe s. avec des plans : - Titre : "Vascelli e fregate della Serenissima" Navi di linea della Marina Veneziana 1652-1797 - Auteur : Guido Ercole - Edition : "Gruppo modellistico trentino di studio e ricerca storica" Un aperçu : http://www.modellismo.net/forum/recensione-libri-e-articoli/105840-vascelli-e-fregate-della-serenissima.html http://modelshipworl...-1397230515.jpg PS : je sais, c'est pointu...

+1. Thanks to you, we also have the title of a book about Venetian ships (with plans) : - Title : "Vascelli e fregate della Serenissima" Navi di linea della Marina Veneziana 1652-1797 - Author : Guido Ercole - Edition : "Gruppo modellistico trentino di studio e ricerca storica"

+1. Two plans of Italian ships from https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9boxabl5oihf37/List%20updated.xlsx?dl=0 : http://www.veniceboats.com/das-erbe-der-serenissima.htm http://modelshipworld.com/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-1071-0-86622800-1397230515.jpg The second one is described as a "Venetian Large Frigate".

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La Diligente French Tartane Fishing ship and coastal trading vessel (4 guns, 1738) "The Diligente had a fascinating career due to the variety of her missions: large and small coastal trading, races, transportation of personnel or official dispatches, and the protection of convoys." http://ancre.fr/157-thickbox_default/monographie-de-la-diligente-tartane-du-roi-1738.jpg Monograph with pics and plans : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/19-monographie-de-la-diligente-tartane-du-roi-1738.html PS : Her place may not be in this thread (as she is french), but rather in : http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7326-small-ships-and-the-new-player-experience/

Nau "Rainha de Portugal" (Alternative spelling : Rainho de Portugal) Portuguese (1791) 80 guns - 3rd Rate

Princesa Real Portuguese (1819) Captured during the Battle of Cape St Vincent (Portuguese Civil War) and renamed Duquesa de Braganza in 1833. Plan made by the British in 1834 50-gun Fourth Rate, large Frigate http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81579.html Source : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21568

Unnamed Portuguese no date (2nd half of the XVIIIth-century ?) date of the english plan : ca. February 1811 182 ft 74-gun Third Rate two decker http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81037.html

Dommage : ça pourrait devenir un petit rituel de début de semaine;). En même temps, le 74 canons qu'on a dans le jeu a un fond assez rond aussi. Moins, et puis le Bellona date de 1760 : La vue transversale du Bellonna me fait penser à une poire... je cherche une blague... non finalement... je ne vois pas. Je ne sais pas. J'ai très peu d'info sur elle. Même pas les mesures de base.

Information updated. Thx. One interesting piece of information at http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21568 is that the former name of the "Duchess" is Princesa Real. This name should be further investigated. Moreover, a British naval officer, Charles John Napier was the one who captured her during the Battle of Cape St Vincent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Napier_(Royal_Navy_officer)

The Spanish, the Dutch, the Danish, the Swedish, the Portuguese and others deserve more ships in NA.

Et ces deux-là, vous les trouvez comment ? Venus tout droit du Portugal. J'attends une petite blague, Surcouf . Sans nom (sans date) Date du Plan anglais : vers fév. 1811 182 ft 74-gun Third Rate two decker http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81037.html Duchess of Braganza (date ?) 50-gun Fourth Rate, large Frigate Date of the english Plan : ca. August 1834 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81579.html PS : Surcouf, j'imagine que tu reconnais mon image d'avatar .

L'Amarante 1747 - 1760, 12 guns

Portuguese Ship plans from the Royal museum of Greenwich : Unnamed Portuguese (no date) Date of the english Plan : ca. February 1811 182 ft 74-gun Third Rate two decker http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81037.html Princesa Real Portuguese (1819-1854) Captured during the Battle of Cape St Vincent (Portuguese Civil War) and renamed Duquesa de Braganza in 1833 50-gun Fourth Rate, large Frigate Date of the english Plan : ca. August 1834 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81579.html Source : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21568

Here is what I've found about Portuguese ships on NA forums (not much) :

C'est ton tour d'aller dans la cale .

Au sujet de la corvette de charge grecque et de ses canons, un grec vient de m'écrire qu'elle date sans doute du moment de la guerre d'indépendance grecque. La plupart des navires grecs engagés dans la bataille étaient, selon lui, des navires de charges et de commerce modifiés (sans doute dans l'urgence) pour supporter plus de canons.

Well, if you read through the player ship selection thread, you'll see I've made some suggestions, plans from several nations (Russia, Spain, Netherlands, Denmark...), digging deep and hard in NA forum. I've already spent "some" time on that. I'll surely go on. But time is missing... And Admin ask for Portuguese ships. To me, it'd be interesting to see some and there's none of them atm. Some (Portuguese or not) players and naval experts around may have plans of Portuguese ships in their minds (or on their hard drive). It was just a call for contribution. "Simple as that" . PS : If only I had the plan, I would also suggest this greek early XIXth-century (?) fluty (french terms are "corvette de charge") with two pole masts (a common set-up in the Mediterranean Sea) and certainly modified for naval combat : Source : http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7348-sélection-de-navires-1er-semestre-2016/?p=139961 A beauty, isn't she ?

Merci pour toutes ces explications toujours super claires. J'adore vraiment.