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Thats nice Vicious. To bad the Brits know all about you and dont care about your one little clan and what it does. Come and bring your 'elite pvp' to us. You are just a troll, first you trolled your own nation. And now your trying to speak for the US? haha Mate, your better off going pirate at this point. Just because you have a american flag in your name, doesn't mean you represent the US nation in this game. You should of really named your clan 'TROLL" would of been a better description of it.

- Ok firstly a the time AUSEZ and SLRN couldnt help down south and stop BWITC and SINK. Just like how you cant stop some of your clans at the moment. - Your correct all about the Pinar del rio etc, with Trinidad and Sancti Spiritus there was no deal that WE knew of. Understand this though, that was the catalyst. You 'took' them back. They werent flipped. - Later that night on that day was the operation against north yuctan, so we asked ourselves. We are planning to take these ports for flip back to the spanish yet 6 hours before hand they are attacking us? - At this point it was decided that south cuba had to be captured for the safety of of all Britain. - We then enter into negotiations AGAIN with spainish diplomats to try to flip the north yuctan back, after we had felt liek we had been stabbed in the back. WE come to a agreement. - Again, the DAY we are planning to flip the north yuctan back to spain. WE have other clans attacking Corientas. - At this point we felt BACKSTABBED again. - Then we have talked with RACC trying to figure out a peace, we invite a officer/diplomat to come to the Briitsh council and give a proposal, during mid negotiations. A flag is bought against misterosa. haha In conclusion, the British nation has felt like its tried time and time again to be friends. All we get is backstabs and then 'spanish pride' thrown in our face. 'These ports were ours', 'We are a proud people' etc etc etc. If you were a TAD bloody patient, both times. Just 6 hours one time, and 10 hours on the second. YOU WOULD OF GOT PORTS FLIPPED TO YOU! But you couldn't control you officers and troops. At this point we cant control ours either Wait untill you see some aussie pride

Spain stared with 104 ports spread through out the whole map, to think that you could hold ever one without a timer set is crazy. We tried to set up borders. Firstly ask yourself why RAE was in the south, and not defending your capital in the first place. Secondly the AUSEZ clan never attacked RAE in the south. We pulled out of concepcion after RAE decided to move in without even mentioning it to us. Costing our clan millions in gold and hours apon hours of our time to please RAE. We worked out butts off to keep a deal going with RAE, and the spanish nation in general. This is my point. You dont know the history, you dont know the diplomacy and the talks that were made. All you see is dots on a map and think you know the whole story. Why do you think the ports around Bensalum and Bonnacca were kept Spanish for so long? Why do you think the British didnt conquer them? Becasue we said we wouldnt! Then RAE left cuba, and we had US at our doorstep at Xpu ha, and Tantun Cuzimil. If you only knew how much we have bent over backwards to keep being friends with Spain. But nope, look at the dots on the map and be manipulated by russians. That 'Spanish pride' will be your downfall.

I can you tell this. I have never heard of a single British player be abusive or insulting in any battle with Spain. The same cannot be said by Spanish players. We give strict orders to our members to always be respectful, and treat any opponent with honor. Even if they are insulting you in Spanish... Secondly, ask any Spanish diplomat who has dealt with the British. See what they think of us. I can assure you that they do understand our blight and have wanted to come to terms with us. Unfortunately it is the troops on the ground, and the officers not in the know. Who look at dots on a map and think they understand what is going on. Unfortunately, as well we have parties from other nations contributing to this, for their benefit. Like Kutai in this thread, pushing the pirate agenda, trying to keep Spain and Britain as enemies. We also have confirmed previous Danes, who have re rolled Spanish to screw up any agreements made. If any Spanish player thinks that Britain every tried to use them, or be our so called 'puppets' they are sorely mistaken. We have tried to work with your diplomats to create a strong Spain again, and give you the room to rebuild. Ask your diplomats, ask the people who have talked to us. We want to work together! Unfortunately the general Spanish player does not see they are being used at this point as a weapon of the Russians against us. Stand up as a nation, and stop being manipulated. Your pride of being Spanish is being used against you. To benefit others on this map. This is the truth.

Wow we are in negotiations about these ports at the moment. Trying to be friend with you guys. You guys make a thread like this? And you wonder why people are fed up with dealing with the Spanish diplomatically.

Sounds good Vicious, we love sinking your members

Scamming sucks period and i do understand that the dev's cant really get involved in dealing with every scammer that pops up and intervening with every issue we have. The issue is, people being able to re-role now days with no consequence. Ltdean can delete his character, re role another one join another nation or join Britain again. With no consequence, and repeat this process over and over. Also note people are re rolling to other nations to purposeful screw up any diplomacy between nations. You solved a small issue with people complaining about being stuck to a nation, and now opened a new can of worms with these issues. There is no way for the community to police it themselves. We can't track these scammer players, or people re rolling to screw up agreements.

How this has changed over to a thread about British/Spanish relations, is a shame. Anyway, just to let anyone interested in it, Myself and Tsunami have sat down and talked on teamspeak to understand each others perspectives. I do hope something can be agreed to, but i am one person in the nation. And have offered RACC to make a proposal to the British Council at its next meeting. On this note lets get this thread back to Russian/British relations.

Wow. So tell me this, Pepe isnt the person to talk to, Gaizka isnt the person to talk to, your the person to talk to is it? Even when we are told Gaizka is the representative of the new Spanish council. Someone who has 5 posts on the forums so far, has never bothered to send anyone a PM or join any other team speaks? Which leadership did you contact in our nation? Never heard of you. No offense. So to deal with the Spanish nation, you have to make 3 different deals with 3 different people I will tell you this Gaizka is a good diplomat, and tried his best to resolve this issue. So everyone on this forum! TsunamiEmperor is the Spanish man! Next week it will be someone else im sure, and the day after that someone else will claim they are. Good luck dealing with the Spanish.

Wow what slander and lies. We treated RAE with great respect, we bent over backwards for them trying to keep our alliance and treaties with them. At every turn they broke the agreements, and changed their minds at every turn. Every week it was something new and different. RAE has crumbled, and they decided to get in between agreements between the British Council and the newly formed Spanish council. We went out of our way to work with RAE, who do you think went to their team speak? and chased them down for alliances? Who do you think agreed for Spanish ports round Bensalum to stay spanish for weeks and weeks, just to appease pepe's obsession for spanish ports through out the map? I have no issue with any Spanish player, or RAE member. Their leadership has lead them down a road of hardship for their own ego's. They are trying to ruin the Spanish nation, because they disagree with the port mechanics in this game as they are. Go read all the posts they made complaining about the timers. They have ruined the game for so many other Spanish players to prove a point. They are purposely ruining the game for other people to benefit themselves in the long term. If you ever want a even more detailed history of our dealing with RAE leadership, im more than willing to sit down and explain every last bit to you. But know this, we treat every person with respect and equals. We tried desperately to come to hugely beneficial terms towards RAE, and the Spanish nation in general. All we got was flip flops and back stabs. If you want screenshots and transcripts im more than happy to share them with you as well. Anyway, again enjoy holding up any dealings with these egomaniacs. I defiantly wont be.

You will have to do better than Jamaica.

Haha Pepe is all yours. Have fun with him cutting you off mid sentence. Get use to this phrase 'no no no no no no no' Also get use to them going against every agreement you set up, moving around the map with out informing you, and claiming every Spanish port even when its over the other side of the map. RAE is all yours!

I think this is a fantastic idea. I semi understood the need for pvp2 at launch, but the creation of pvp3 was a massive blunder in my opinion. Let's merge all these servers!

I don't doubt you were. Wow the pirates must be full of polygots. In between capturing your booty, do you all sit around using Rosetta Stone?

Go watch the stream of the pirates. Tell me what language is being spoken on the team speaks etc.

I assure you there wont be any peace. The majority of Britain is welcoming this attack! Come to us We have had it to easy, most of Britain has been sitting inside of our empire grinding away and getting complacent. You cant beat Britain into submission in a day, a weekend, a month, or even a dam year. Our nation is to large, to spread out and you will burn yourself out before you even conquer half of our nation if it was uncontested. Although we will fight you every step of the way. Lets not play any games here either. Its Russians. Its not the Danes, its not the Pirates. Its Russians. We will fight this Russian Horde to the last man. To be clear on this, Britain is not scared. We are not the one's coming for peace. So come on keep it up, lets see how far you get into our nation. Before we push you back to where you belong.

Haha i know mate no stress. This is all a fun meta game on the forums. I just don't talk in long winded old English to participate No offense to those who do, to each their own!

Puppet master? Wow dramatic much. I think anyone who isnt biased can see through this comment for what it is. Pure propaganda and slander. All you are trying to do is paint the brits as a common enemy to keep your fragile alliance together. The Brits havent smashed anyone in this game, and all they have done is make peace and friends with all who were willing. The danes conquered two nations and tried to flip them to fight for them. So tell me who is 'trying' to be puppet masters but obviously failing?

Firstly Britain has never had ANY vassals. We have friends and allies. When you conquer people and call it a commonwealth, sounds like spin to me.... Ohh and defending Kingston/PR, britain is a big place at the moment and a lot of the clans are not camping our capital. We are off in different parts of our empire. We are awaiting your push west, and are welcoming it! We are all playing this game so we can shoot at each other aint we? If we werent, we would be on the icky PVE server...*shudders in fear*

Hi chappy, Yeah mate we do have 140 members at the moment, but that is ranging all timezones. The aussie's in the clan range from about 30, then we have about 20 from asia in general. So if your feeling as though you wouldnt be getting the tender love and care becasue we are a 'big clan' your mistaken I love to rub myself up against all my aussies P.S. I didnt mean to hijack this thread! Just a lot of chatter about us. Join who ever you want! Australia Denmark is best Denmark!

Ahh i assume you never wanted Las Tortugas? Ohh and thats why CSY defended Mugres multiple times? Ohh and all that gold, and hemp in those ports in the yuctan...i assume no USN every used those resources.

Massive Success! The clan leaders and diplomats from majority of British clans sat and meet for a hour to discuss our national interests. A quick list of the clans present AUSEZ - The Australian Colonial Navy BWITC - British West indies Trading Company BTN - The Order of Beltaine RGL - Royal German Legion RD - Royal Dogs RELIC - RELIC SLRN - Sea Lords Royal Navy SINK - Barely Afloat SOGGY - Soggy Biscuit TRR - The Rum Runners Some of the broad strokes from this meeting. - All inter-clan/political discussion will be completely stopped in Britain chat - Arrangement of clan positioning to maximize our fronts - All clans agreed to French, Swedish non-aggression - The 'Spanish issue' has been resolved between the clans This will strengthen our nation massively, before we were divided, now are are one. If Britain was intimidating earlier, you have only tasted what we are capable of. We shall rule the sea's as it has always been, and will always be.

Haha i dont think we need a new thread for each meeting, but what ever works

Well i don't know what happens in every port battle, as i dont attend every one. I'm sad to hear that their was any issue but again this is why this is trying to be formed to try to prevent things like that. I will certainly post in that steam group as well when the time is known, but also not every clan is in that group and this is a place where they can find out about it groups like that I'm sorry people will have to click to page two....I know it's very hard.