Pappystein Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Zuikaku said: Subs are needed but gun length is overpowered feature at the moment. In a way I find this interesting, I tend to *TRY* to run Historical builds as best I can... I tend to use Historical gun caliber/lengths and I often find the guns are FAR too short in range and penetration power. Also the smaller caliber guns, the ones that NEED the really long barrels never get them. I want to make the 3"/70 US/UK guns but you can't. All that being said, a few take-aways. 1) currently Hit locations are still kinda-borked in game so judging Gun damage vs Torpedo Damage vs whatever is not accurate at all to really compare/contrast with 2) Looking at Gun performance, the guns are always SHORTER in range by a large margin than real world equivalents utilizing the same powder and shell combos as real life. 3) several of the Powders in use should have a very high spontaneous explosion chance due to shock, that should only be mitigated by Crew training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plazma Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Zuikaku said: Subs are needed but gun length is overpowered feature at the moment. Exactly, even after the patch I will be very gad to turn off this "FeAtUrE" for me is walking bug. Let's wait, I have good hope about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bshaftoe Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 What's the official discord for UAD? I have seen it referenced, but I don't have the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brothermunro Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, bshaftoe said: What's the official discord for UAD? I have seen it referenced, but I don't have the link. https://discord.gg/YKqdTKtk There you go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nascarboi22 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 What happened to early in the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kineuhansen Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 something about a game braking bug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narbar Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 To be fair I think they have listened to feedback, people were not happy with releasing buggy updates in the past. So I think they are doing the right thing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjg000 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Narbar said: To be fair I think they have listened to feedback, people were not happy with releasing buggy updates in the past. So I think they are doing the right thing I agree. I have no problems with Games Labs waiting until they have a decent release. It would be nice though if they dropped a quick heads up along the lines of 'Release delayed due to <reason>'. Going forward I hope they do no more than one update a week, except in extraordinary circumstances (e.g. the last update broke the game) and that they do a weekly status update. The status updates could be as simple as 'next update on time/delayed/ expected <day>'. I don't think they realise that silence before a delayed release does more damage than the delay. Delays can't be helped but communication is easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makko Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, kjg000 said: I agree. I have no problems with Games Labs waiting until they have a decent release. It would be nice though if they dropped a quick heads up along the lines of 'Release delayed due to <reason>'. I would also like this, although knowing internet people they're damned if they do and damned if they don't lol Edited October 14, 2022 by Makko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjg000 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 10:12 PM, Zuikaku said: Subs are needed but gun length is overpowered feature at the moment. I'd say fractional gun sizes and lengths are more important than subs with the caveat that they do need some tweaking. Subs are hard to get right without making them too powerful. The submersibles of this era relied heavily on luck in being in the right place at the right time. They could barely manoeuvre while submerged and couldn't stay submerged for long. In game I'd expect a significant replacement cost each turn to reflect the high attrition rate. I also can't see the justification for including subs but not air power, implemented in a similar way. This would include land based and CV based aircraft as well as scout planes when carried on capital ships. Aircraft also were perhaps the greatest deterrent against subs in costal waters especially when you consider that shallow submerged subs could often be seen, and attacked from the air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle_86 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, kjg000 said: I'd say fractional gun sizes and lengths are more important than subs with the caveat that they do need some tweaking. Subs are hard to get right without making them too powerful. The submersibles of this era relied heavily on luck in being in the right place at the right time. They could barely manoeuvre while submerged and couldn't stay submerged for long. In game I'd expect a significant replacement cost each turn to reflect the high attrition rate. I also can't see the justification for including subs but not air power, implemented in a similar way. This would include land based and CV based aircraft as well as scout planes when carried on capital ships. Aircraft also were perhaps the greatest deterrent against subs in costal waters especially when you consider that shallow submerged subs could often be seen, and attacked from the air. yea forced to agree, the earliest naval use of air power was sea planes to help look for subs in WW1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Thomadis Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Head to our beta forum to try the latest beta version of the game!https://steamcommunity.com/app/1069660/discussions/3/ or go here in our forum: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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