Corbs Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The black wasp - Pirates all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was a frog in POTBS so I'll likely give them a serious look, but that may change when more of the game is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thc420Vato Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Dark side. Yarrr.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Gaspard de Vence Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 My choice will be France and probably a privateer as "Jean Gaspard de Vence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusitani Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Portugal...after all if it wasn't for us (and to be fair, the dutch) the brits couldn't even find Australia ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGama Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm still strugling with the idea that Portugal ins't in the poll. It had the most powerfull armada in the 15th century. btw search "Galleon São João Batista" aka the SpitFire My choice would be Portugal > Spain > France 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Was Portugal even a player in the mid-1600's and later? I'm asking the question, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGama Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Portugal had its shinny moment up to 1560 ( time when Portugal and Spain united) with the discovery of the trade route to India. Up to that year Portugal Navy was one of the best in the world. Until 1640 ( when Portugal declares independance from Spain) some of the fleet that Portugal had was either obsolet, sunk, sold or captured by Britain or other nation, Even tho Portugal had its Navy at the same level as the other nations. After 1640 Portugal was mostly a bystander player mostly defending its colonies (repulsing the Dutch assaults on Mozambique, Goa and Macau) helping other nations like England on the battle of Twelfth Siege of Gibraltar (1704) and such. So answering your question... yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Chis Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Who will join me and become a barbar pirate sailing a lateen ship (like the brig but fore and aft sail i think) plundering american merchants mwuahah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Royal Navy, Australian Station... Being an Aussie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubino7 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Somewhat insulting that you left out Portugal and the United provinces. They were much bigger than quite a few other options in the poll. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-Eyed Willy Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Have to admit, I had a good laugh when I read this . BTW, France after all helped the US to be independent in the first place, so in this particular era they should be your second choice after USA!!!. France?! BAH! Do not forget about the Quasi-War. The US & France were not on the friendliest of terms then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldEaters Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 At the moment i would go Spain. But this could change, depends on benefits of each nation, if there will be any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlindoBerto Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Was Portugal even a player in the mid-1600's and later? I'm asking the question, I don't know. Well, the short answer, everywhere.... We where at war with spain and the netherlands at the same time, as well as you, remember the treaty of Windsor? the one treaty that stipulated on its begining the sending of 30 ships per year to england? As far as i know, the peak of the portuguese power was in the begining of the XVIII century, before the industrial revolution and before the earthquake. About this thread, i disagree with the people that say murica 4life, spain 4ever, if there is different ships, they are there for us to get them, and being narrowminded about nations its not a good thing, its what got charlie in the extreme sense.. I agree with the existence of manny other ships from manny other countries, venice had good ships, as well as genova, the otomans and manny others, but if portugal should be present, absolutely yes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielCoffey Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Once the sandbox is open, will there be any enforced balancing of Nations when choosing allegiance? If, hypothetically speaking, the huge majority picked one Nation, what mechanisms could be used to ensure other Nations had any chance of enjoyment at all? Would it be self-balancing... the simple fact that there were no opponents for fights forcing Captains to change flag to get any action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captfluffy Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 what no navy from somalia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Because my mom's family is of dutch background and i always wanted to please my mom ... But my father's ancestors are from Denmark, so it is a really difficult decision. I'd go for both occasionally. Btw: I am new here. After watching the vids on Bismarck's and Sidestrafe's channels i couldn't resist any longer. So we will probably meet again at Kamperduin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Corso Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 France of course! And probably a corsaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Athena Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 For this time frame, I'd say either England, or France. I've always been highly intrigued by the constant push and pull in early naval technology between these two nations. Though England has always been renowned as having the absolute best navy and ships for the time. Portugal however, was a very well renowned sea fairing nation as well that doesn't get as much respect as they deserve, especially considering their size compared to France and Spain. So backing them would indeed prove a challenge and thrill in many ways as well, especially considering they'd probably not get as much support from players as the bigger nations would... It's hard to decide.... soo... very.. hard.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchurkjeBoefje Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 For this time frame, I'd say either England, or France. I've always been highly intrigued by the constant push and pull in early naval technology between these two nations. Though England has always been renowned as having the absolute best navy and ships for the time. Portugal however, was a very well renowned sea fairing nation as well that doesn't get as much respect as they deserve, especially considering their size compared to France and Spain. So backing them would indeed prove a challenge and thrill in many ways as well, especially considering they'd probably not get as much support from players as the bigger nations would... It's hard to decide.... soo... very.. hard.. While it's true that the Royal Navy probably had the better trained crews on average later in the Age of Sail, I don't think we can say the same about having the best ships. French shipbuilding probably had more of an influence with many succesfull designs that were adopted by other navies. The Froggies losing so many naval battles during the Napoleonic Wars had more to do with their decimated officer corps post Terreur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlindoBerto Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I read somewhere that its true, but the canons used by britain was inferior untill the early XVIII century, portugal, spain and the netherlands had the best navies at the time. With the decline of portugal, the stagnation of spain and the netherlands and the revolutions in the british navy lead them to their rise....all of this is in my knowledge, refute me if im wrong.. Also, manny people forget about the venetian, papal and genovese navies, they had very good ships, for some reason this nations alongside witth portugal defeated the otoman navy after they retreated from corfu in matapan cape in 1717. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Athena Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 While it's true that the Royal Navy probably had the better trained crews on average later in the Age of Sail, I don't think we can say the same about having the best ships. French shipbuilding probably had more of an influence with many succesfull designs that were adopted by other navies. The Froggies losing so many naval battles during the Napoleonic Wars had more to do with their decimated officer corps post Terreur. I read somewhere that its true, but the canons used by britain was inferior untill the early XVIII century, portugal, spain and the netherlands had the best navies at the time. With the decline of portugal, the stagnation of spain and the netherlands and the revolutions in the british navy lead them to their rise....all of this is in my knowledge, refute me if im wrong.. Also, manny people forget about the venetian, papal and genovese navies, they had very good ships, for some reason this nations alongside witth portugal defeated the otoman navy after they retreated from corfu in matapan cape in 1717. I'm opt to believe you both right away. Can't believe everything you're told in history books, as they often times are skewed and bias sometimes, especially when it comes to the stereotypical understanding, generally those are NEVER completely correct. Thanks for this update on history ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinguin_33 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I will keep on saying it until it happens; I want Portugal as a playable nation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGama Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Well, the short answer, everywhere.... We where at war with spain and the netherlands at the same time, as well as you, remember the treaty of Windsor? the one treaty that stipulated on its begining the sending of 30 ships per year to england? As far as i know, the peak of the portuguese power was in the begining of the XVIII century, before the industrial revolution and before the earthquake. About this thread, i disagree with the people that say murica 4life, spain 4ever, if there is different ships, they are there for us to get them, and being narrowminded about nations its not a good thing, its what got charlie in the extreme sense.. I agree with the existence of manny other ships from manny other countries, venice had good ships, as well as genova, the otomans and manny others, but if portugal should be present, absolutely yes. I totally agree with you (as a fellow portuguese ofc) the problem is finding ship plans on the web! As for paintings...I did found some ( at least for 2nd and 3rd rates) but it isn't much and certainly the devs need to model a ship. I do know that the Navy's museum In Lisbon sells copies of ship plans...I bet the price will be everything but low. I agree that devs should focus on ships/nations that had more "power"/"influence" to speed up the modeling (game content). If they would go and try to find some info on portuguese ships it would probably take time and slow overwall game-progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kao1808 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 As I am from the Netherlands I vote for the Dutch. Shocking to see one of the greatest seafaring nations of the world is not in the list. Dutch naval power was a major naval force and dominated global commerce for a long while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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