[La taverne du corsaire]

6 hours ago, Nick the cursed said:

(aux passage, je cherche les plans du HMS Ontario, le Snow dans le jeu, pour de la maquette...)

Edit: J'ai déjà  le petit Cornichon aka Pickle en construction (pas les mêmes paints, Trincomalee style):

Beau cornichon !!! Félicitations.

Si ça t'intéresse, Prater avait regroupé a long ago quelques plans des navires en jeu ici. Toute une époque... 😁

[La taverne du corsaire]

Quelqu'un connait-il l'histoire de ces trois plans british de l'Unité (?) qui ont pas mal de différences, avant/après modif (?) ?

Mai 1796 : capeture

Juillet 1796 (?) : figure de proue intéressante...

Oct. 1796 (?) :

 1798 (?) :

C'est sans doute un épisode du forum que j'ai raté 🙂

[Can we get 1 redeemable yacht for all dlc purchase?]

4 minutes ago, z4ys said:

who will actual sail those ships?

there are 2 different questions :

who would buy them ?

who would sail them ?

+ a third one :  who could resist such a beauty  🙂 :

 

 

[Can we get 1 redeemable yacht for all dlc purchase?]

33 minutes ago, admin said:

This is actually a very popular request we get it a lot. 
We decided that we might provide yacht for purchase for a limited time in a near future (subject to agreement to steam) 

what about a brand new 7th or 6th rate some day soon (DLC or not) ?

[Can we get 1 redeemable yacht for all dlc purchase?]

2 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

The 2nd class citizens on PVE will just have to live without it. 

That human nature that makes us troll.

[Can we get 1 redeemable yacht for all dlc purchase?]

That human nature that makes us desire what we can't have... 😉

[Can we get 1 redeemable yacht for all dlc purchase?]

so just wait for a problem on the PvE server 😁

[Can we get 1 redeemable yacht for all dlc purchase?]

6 minutes ago, Captain Personthing said:

that why i think it is not fair to randomly give to people

not randomly, but as a gift to the dedicated testers of the Alpha version of the game (Sea Trial).

[Buff inferior 5th and 6th rates for variety]

- Don't buff 6th/5th-rates. No point in turning them all into heavy frigates. We need real diversity, not just cosmetic one.

- Create more shallow water areas all around the map.

- Make 6th-rates and shallow water 5th-rates freely and massively available via free DLCs without cool down (always available).

[...]

53 minutes ago, DeRuyter said:

Let's not get pedantic here. Since you mentioned it however you are incorrect.

US artillery in the AWI was organized as regiments and divided into companies. Maybe you were thinking of the ACW or modern TO&E?

https://revolutionarywar.us/continental-army/artillery-regiments/

Here is another example, the reserve artillery battery of the French I Corps in 1815 comprising 87 men with 6 pieces 12 lb guns and 2 howitzers:

11ème Compagnie du 6ème Régiment d'Artillerie à Pied

http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/detail_uniteFR.php?rubrique=O&unite=144

Several armies of the period also designated the artillery train as a company. 

and the French artillery had already been organized in permanent companies since the 17th century (Louis XIV, 1668).

[The French Navy during the 17th century : an upcoming monograph]

The French Navy during the 17th century

An upcoming monograph at ancre.fr  written by P. Villiers describes the French ships armed with 70-110 guns and built during 1624-1715, ie. during the reigns of Louis XIII and Louis XIV :

 

For the record, among others, another monograph written by JC Lemineur from the same publishing house described the Navy of Louis XIV :

...and Le Saint Philippe (1691) is described at length in another one :

[French ship Redoutable (1791)]

17 hours ago, Wagram said:

What happened to this type of figurehead after the abolition of the monarchy in 1792 can be seen on this British print (...) The crown was replaced by a Phrygian cap and the lilies were carved away and, apparently, painted over with a tricolour.

J'aimerais bien en trouver/voir une représentation un peu plus visible/détaillée.

17 hours ago, Wagram said:

The same seems to have happened to other blazons related to the Ancien Régime. E.g., Les États de Bourgogne whose escutcheon - according to a 1790 print - may have shown the arms of Burgundy or the Royal lilies (I'm not quite sure about what I see) received a tricolour escutcheon too when it became La Montagne, if we are to believe De Loutherbourgs 1795 painting of the battle of 1st June 1794:

https://www.gettyimages.at/detail/illustration/glorious-first-of-june-or-third-battle-of-ushant-between-grafiken/153414662

Interestingly, the Loutherbourg's 1794 sketch of La Montagne has a distorted figurehead which shows an indistinct cloaked and helmeted warrior figure, probably meant to hold an escutcheon as well:

Actually, the painting appears to have it right as it shows the same arrangement as the 1790 French print: there, the escutcheon is held by two angels (or so), though it is still topped by a crown, which was later replaced by a helmet, according to De Loutherbourg.

D'après ce que je comprends de ton compte-rendu, rien n'empêche que L'Etats de Bourgogne ait arboré, comme figure de proue :

• un blason 'royaliste' jusqu'en 92/93
• transformé alors dans sa version républicaine jusqu'à la bataille du 1 juin 1794
• puis remplacé, au cours de l'année, par une figure allégorique révolutionnaire. Les combats ont pu l'abîmer. Et les figures allégoriques étaient à la mode.
• Puis en 1795, changement de nom (Le Peuple puis L'Océan) et nouvelle figure de proue (à moins que ce ne soit la même) : le titan Océan (?).

Non ?

[French ship Redoutable (1791)]

Figurehead of Le Commerce de Marseille during her monarchic period (1785-1792) without painting : here.

(from Delacroix' monograph)

very nice work!

[French ship Redoutable (1791)]

The archives of the French Navy keep the drawings of the ornaments of Le Superbe (1784), a Téméraire-class ship.

Monography (English/French). About the figurehead shown in it : here, "un blason arboré de trois fleurs de lys, couronné et ailé".

ship model

[Flags, Flags, Flags - 2 - Flag proposals only]

and what about :

• the Scottish Red Ensign, used by the Royal Scottish Navy until 1707 ?

• the Flag of the Company of Scotland Trading to Africa and the Indies (1698) ?

 

Was the yellow one a naval ensign ?

[Flags, Flags, Flags - 2 - Flag proposals only]

7 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

Please.  We have a desperate need of a proper Scottish flag! (in the GB nation of course)

maybe not the best timing... 🙂

[Work in progress]

6 hours ago, Navalus Magnus said:

@admin When will the Redoutable hit the live server? Is there a realistic estimation?

A tiny riquiqui clue : if I have understood correctly, Le Redoutable didn't have a figurehead two weeks ago.

[Ornaments of the 74-gun ship-of-the-line "Droits de l'Homme" (1794)]

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"Marseille désormais baptisée Sans-Nom."

ça on peut pas leur retirer : ils savaient se faire aimer au Comité de Salut public !

Comment on appelle les habitants de Sans-Nom ?

Sans-culottes et sans nom c'est pas une vie...

[Will aircraft carriers be added to the game?]

someone seemingly likes first times 🙂

there are lots of 'first times'...

[Will aircraft carriers be added to the game?]

3 hours ago, DarkTerren said:

The first strike from a seaplane carrier against a land target as well as a sea target took place in September 1914 when the Imperial Japanese Navy carrier Wakamiya conducted ship-launched air raids from Kiaochow Bay during the Battle of Tsingtao in China.

...with lovely early-WWI seaplanes, some Maurice Farman MF.11 Shorthorn, for reco and light bombing 🙂 :

 

 

[Ornaments of the 74-gun ship-of-the-line "Droits de l'Homme" (1794)]

"Hé, bê !" dirait @Surcouf  🙂

Un navire qui s'appellerait La Carmagnole dans un jeu ? Ça serait pas mal du tout !

[Ornaments of the 74-gun ship-of-the-line "Droits de l'Homme" (1794)]

49 minutes ago, Wagram said:

Blame treacherous Louis XVI 

Moi perso, j'écrirais : "Blame Louis XVI, Robespierre, Napoleon, Louis-Ph. 1er (...) Napoléon III d'avoir tout fait pour retarder la république/démocratie pendant un siècle".😉

(y en a un autre au 20e s...)

NB : Avec...

49 minutes ago, Wagram said:

Blame treacherous Louis XVI (not as harmless as he's usually being described) for the failure of this experiment. HE was not satisfied to be a constitutional monarch but wanted to be an absolutist sovereign ("by the grace of God") again. 

... je m'attendais quand même à Mr et Madame Véto :

 

[Ornaments of the 74-gun ship-of-the-line "Droits de l'Homme" (1794)]

Méduse semble une figure assez utilisée dans les années 1792-94 :

• du côté anglais, pour montrer la France en bête immonde :

 

• du côté français, pour "méduser" les Contre-Révolutionnaires avec la tête tranchée de la "Méduse" :

4 hours ago, Citoyen J said:

Prennez garde que vos propos « critiques » a l’egard de l’apport considérable de la Revolution ne soient rapportés au Comité de salut public....et ne vous provoquent un raccourcissement au niveau du col....😆

Je préfère définitivement la période 1789-92 : les droits de l'Homme... 🙂

 

[Ornaments of the 74-gun ship-of-the-line "Droits de l'Homme" (1794)]

La signature et les dates semblent coller : 

• Mai 1793 : la construction du navire commence
• 10 juillet 1793 : Jeanbon, responsable de la Marine au Comité de Salut public 
• Mai 1794 : la construction est fini.

Quelle date pour la signature du dessin ?

PS : donc, au Ministère de la Marine, on a eu une Sardine et un Jambon ?

[Ornaments of the 74-gun ship-of-the-line "Droits de l'Homme" (1794)]

ok