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Yes it is clan based. But ppl still regard there nation when it comes to RvR as important. When I wrote the opening statement is was with the phrase My enemy enemy is my . But could it is the clan mechanic that does we have an more fluied map when it comes to alliance and enemys

See that Spain also just have you as hostil. I just remembet it as it was war once. Yeah RvR and PvP is different things. Was just wondering if the map always have been so kaotic.

Just took a short look at the map. Looks like a lot of Nations are fighting more nations at the same time. Sweden fights Russia, GB and France Russia fights Sweeden, GB, smal actions against other Nations. France fights Sweeden Spain fights GB, Poland Pirates and are hostile to Denmark. Poland fights GB and Spain Deutch fight Denmark(BF) Prussia fight a bit of all to get a new home Pirates not sure, But maybe a bit Spain Denmark fights the Deutsch(BF) and some small actions around the map by rest clans. I could have gotten some of the actions wrong. But it seams like alliance and join to define a commen enemy for a nation, is gone in the Wind. Has it always been like this ore is that something that got in with clans.

Just took a short look at the map. Looks like a lot of Nations are fighting more nations at the same time. Sweden fights Russia, GB and France Russia fights Sweeden, GB, smal actions against other Nations. France fights Sweeden Spain fights GB, Poland Pirates and are hostile to Denmark. Poland fights GB and Spain Deutch fight Denmark(BF) Prussia fight a bit of all to get a new home Pirates not sure, But maybe a bit Spain Denmark fights the Deutsch(BF) and some small actions around the map by rest clans. I could have gotten some of the actions wrong. But it seams like alliance and join to define a commen enemy for a nation, is gone in the Wind. Has it always been like this ore is that something that got in with clans.

But I do understand why a lot of players just dont care anymore. And put a side the pb mechanics. Ppl would like to fight on even odds. The new reward system for top, well it just screwed the rest. Lets do the mat. I get 8 pvp marks for a ship, each matchs take with transport an houre. I win 1/2. Need 50 pvp for a VM.So lets do the math. 50/8*2=12,5 houres I need to get a VM. Basicly 2 hours a day. Are Vm important. Oh yes. Guess who will win a screen fight. The one that can bring 20 first rates ore the one who can bring 20 2 rates. Small Nations allready have less players and now they also have to fight in smaller ships. I do wonder why they dont bother about RvR. But guess Devs think the game is best with 3 superpowers that have the map, and the rest a couple of ports. But if they want less Nations, why just not delete some of the Nations.

As always @monk33y only regard actions made by Russia. Rest of us is only pve players.

My dear friend @Admiral Horatio Hornblower Once more you hightlight DNP in a action, where we just was a small part. But plz keep doing it. Other clans have to do promotion videos on youtube, all we need is you.

Actually there where more clans involved, we just made most damage. We where asked to help a nation to deal with a pb mechanic, that we belive is bad for game play. So we did. And it couldn’t be a problem for youre strategy in the game, because otherwise you would allready have attacked. would we have helped Russia in the same situation, I do hope so. A nation should not suffere a strategie loss becaus a game mechanic an inaktive clan. Neither should another nation use it for there advantage. How Russia regards Denmark and certain clans, well guess the only way to get a kind word, would be if we choose to be your pet. And honestly we are to ugly to be a pet. btw the prize for the *Oranjenstad was a port closer to the brits for hunting. But I guess that mother russia never would make such offer.

To far. Look at Denmark. We took port over by the brits. We sailed from Great Corn. And we did it with 8-10 players and that was in main EU time. Think you can find a free port to sail from and find ports with a defence timer thats shuits you. Yes you are few, but so is the opponent also in your timezone. Plenty of ports to get. Just look at the map.

Well do think that would be a mistake from @North, to get in to such a fight. Still think the Swedes are best in a single battle. And I know he is not stupid. He just loose ship without anything to gain. He is in for the long run, and can't he not win one way, well he try to find another way. Even if the Swedes get all there players back and got the "a game players" involved, I think they would be in for a fight. Just look at the actions on the map. They dont get a one on one fight. The numbers they will be up against, well lets just say WOW. If they can pull that off, well haven't been playing for that long. So I must depend on others clarify if the ever have been a nation that won such a war. Hell we even saw Babay a CS yesterday, so if Rus is back and a live.

My dear Friend. Why can't you just not accept Oure love for you and the GB nation. We have no alliance with any one ore are against anybody, From the time Hydra was part Denmark, we got respect for some of the players, but that all. Look at who the spainards has as friendly. Is it DNP? We waited to attack some British port until we thought Spain and Russia was finished. But why are we there? Well we had some good and funny fight with the polish, but they got in to a struggle with some pirates. And as they are a small nation, we saw no fun in fighting them at the same time. So we looked on the map for some new fights, where we could have fun. We gave 1 shot at the Germans, but well, lets be honest. That nation more ore less has fallen apart. Though I think Lig and friends may do some good there. So we looked for a new one to play with. Should it be the Dutch, well lets see, they have Russians, BF and Sweden down there. Think they have enough. The French, well I am not sure how fare they got to united the nation. But if not, well they have a beef with Spain, GB and Sweden. So that why we went for some small unimportant ports by the brits, to get some challenged and good fights. And that can the brits give us. Should we fight Russia, well the have kicked us so far in every PB. We just look for some good fights. Loots of players just stopped care about RvR, because of the merge and the Pb system. But don't think you should count Denmark out of the competition. Still think BF are doing good. We cant fight a big war, but slowly we are getting more players for RvR. But we just fight those for fun, not to se us on the leaderboard, because we dont care about it. Not long ago my friend, you accused us of being gankers. I must have gotten in wrong, ore can you gank Ai ?* All we do is just for fun, so players have som content and dont leave the game. But guess you would rather see Gb great again and play on a server with 200 players.

I dont have screenshots, videos, yes But Thise are just for oure Fb group. I just want to thanks the britts for two good fight last Night the pb, you had screnfleet and and all. We stod no chance and had lost the pb before we entrede. Good tac and play, so👍. We ran also in to the britts back to Great Corn. A win for us. So all in all a fun Night. olz feel free to attack oure ports Down there. We preferencer no multi flips because not that many RvR players in Denmark/Norway. Except BF and dont think we can count on them to safe us.

You are fast in forum, almost as fast to shoot my mast when you played. I made an edit right after I postet it, but you was just to fast for me😀

Have there been a *vote?

And I dont disagree with you. The game is not going to please every one, that why I said the game should find its segment, even if it in the start will cost players. No surprise I not am a fan of the merge, and the global timezone. But that is a way to segment it, as Eu was. Devs now have chosen a global server. So I can live with it ore leave. The game just have to find its direction, and if it is a PvP/PvE game. The it is the direction. but be honest about it so players feedback can be on the thing that can give enough gameplay for that segment. Not the hardcore PvP PvE players. Just some time have the feeling, that the game try to please all groups.

We have the same problem in Dk/ng. But there is actually a simple solution to get ppl out and fight, and the same time have some fun. Arranged matches, with no fear of loosing the ship. You meet us in an arranged match. We have agreed on only fight on the ships that that can be bought from store with gold.(Those put in game from developers)- Do a 5-5 ore what number we agree on. A Frigat cost 100.000. All the have to do is one mission and they can afford it. I Know it may be a cheap shot. But if this it what it takes to get ppl startet, well I am actually fine with it.

I must say that I find it tough to see a solutions that fit all kind of player. We have hardcore pvp players, that says that this is a pvp server. (And they are right), Guys(like my self) that are softcore pvp players, who also like at bit of trading and pve(without to much risk), And then pve players, that is here because, well it is here the population is. Sometimes I think the game just should find out witch of the groups this game is for, develop the game in that direction. Not sure in the long run it benefits to try to please all. Yes it will cost players in the start. but find your segment and focus on this, I do belive in the end it will give the best game for those that play it. Does the game go in an direction I dont like, well yes the I proberly will find a new game to play. Bet hey lets be honest. No game depend on one single player, at well no player only during a life time only play one single game.

I just seen to many times where alts have been used to change what happens on the game. An example: Ppl changing to an alt so they could be get to a pb, where they couldn’t teleport on there main. (More pb in a short Windows) But may well not be a problem after release, when there hopefully is more ppl Ports with rare items loosing the strategic importance, because every one stil can get it on there alt. But as I said. Take you word for it.

So you dont think they gave a wrong picture about how the RvR competition worked, when every player above flag in a nation got a vm. Ore maybe what ppl have to do to gather the ressources to craft. Ore maybe how ppl get rare items/ressources from a port held by another nation. I would have thought so, But I just take your word for it.

Well guess we just have to give it some time and se what happens. Think we all will be wiser in a month. There are plenty of ports to fight about, it may not end up being a problem. But I do understand that is frustrating, The reason I chosed to play on an Eu server and not global, was because of the timezone. In some way it is the same now as before. Then I couldn't be online every day, so ports would be lost, without I could do anything. Same to day. The only difference is now if the port is set out of my time zone, well then I know I never will try getting it back and therefore slowly will loose all my ports. but wouldn't that not also happens when one of the big nations would take Oure ports. But anyway it is up to us to play the game as we want. So for me personally with the last changes, RvR just lost some of content. I still hope that the game changes when it comes to the way it does Pb's, gives reward, because I dont agree on the way it is for now. But as said in a month ore two we will know if the direction the game have taken is the right one ore a failed test.

I agree we need players. And I do think it is a big problem in the late test phase.(I think we are there). Yes you can fix bugs and that stuff. But do you get the right pictures on the content of the game? I see problems in the fact that ppl compensate to get the game to work for them. Just to name the one that I think is the biggest. Use of alts. But thats maby just me and on release, it will turn up to be no problem:

Look like we are going to have a fight who is going to be Hornblowers new nation. Maby we can get som odds, soe we can start betting. For now we have Russia, Spain and Poland. I would have trowen Denmark/Norway in the hat. But lets be fair, we can’t offer a nation worthy of Hornblower.

Well I hope that He one day tells who he is. It would be a shame if his identity should end up as one if the great unsolved mysteries in history. Like what happend i Roswell, are there aliens in Area 51. It would just be sad if the World never get to know who this great man really is. Just sad😩

Well I think Batman will send a couple of VM with to ease the trade if you take Hornblower.😂

Because he is funny. I must say I simply love him. On a borring day, He can an will deliver 15 min of fun. And no, I dont think that any of those that wears “big boy pants”, lisen to him. But I only have smal pants, and as said, he is good for 15 min of entertainment.