Aquillas
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15 minutes ago, Capn Rocko said:
Good suggestions indeed, which need to be detailled step by step to a new player (i.e., someone who purchased the game for the first time, today).
This player can't find it in the forum (even most of us do not know that this was existing)...
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As you can read, this suggestion is a question, or a reminder to the development team, not to forget that a game like Naval Action can't survive if new players can't develop.
How can a new player start?
I was in Kingston Port Royal, at least 5 minutes during the week-end. Exceptional long time for being in a friendly capital, in which we normally have nothing to do. And indeed, I found no enemy in sight, no friendly new player to protect, nothing to do. Fair enough, this is not a complain, I knew that before "transport".
A new player asked help in the nation chat, requesting how to grow-up. Someone answered him immediately: “Do missions”.
I checked in the "kill mission" list, nothing below the 3rd rate mission… I went to Port Moran, to Port Antonio and to Carlisle. No mission below the 3rd rate. To be sure, I disconnected and reconnected my French account “Eleazar”. Same in Fort-Royal.
My question to @admin is:
How can a new player start in Naval Action? I don’t speak about new accounts of veterans: I can successfully start a new account in any nation, and grow-up rapidly, as any veteran can do, because I have around 3000 hours in Naval Action.
A real new player will be born in capitals. What to do there for him? Where can he find advises and instructions for a pretty/easy development? By pretty development, I mean something which look like boring for a veteran, but from which a new player can learn experience, and experience in Naval Action is not only XP points, as we all know that (angulating, manual sailing, boarding, accepting boring periods before maybe finding fun, etc.)
I do think this is a really important question. If a new player is obliged to go to enemy waters to find something to do, he will be for sure scrapped there by enemy more or less veterans, who cannot see his (low) rank in Open World before attacking. Knowing what is a Naval Action veteran (most of the surviving players are hardcore), the new player will be sunk, sometimes including laughing at him and/or insults.
I did not see more than 400 players in the “War” server during this week-end, this might be a concern.
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Ça a comme un goût de reviens-y-pas votre affaire.
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8 hours ago, fofopicote said:
Les EDR ne sont pas mort donc il faut arreter de dire des choses fausses.
I never wrote anywhere, in this forum or others, that EDR is dead. This clan is still living, by efforts of some few players who make the effort to keep it alive, and pay the bill for the ports... I was one of those and at a moment, the only one of those...
Some players, including you, took over the task to keep the perfusion ON. Great! And thank you. But the EDR clan, which was the biggest of the French faction, which had enough players to fill a 25 captain PB fleet, is now just a shadow of what it was... This, I wrote, because it is the truth. Some players left the game, some left for other clans, some left the French faction, most of them for pirates (FP clan). And by now, the EDR is very weak. But by your tremendous energy, we are all sure that EDR will be soon strong again! :) :) :)
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This battle is not an exceptional one, but it was fun and it puts some push-up on this topic! 🙂
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[Diplomatic mode: ON]
Many thanks to Game-Labs for making this proposal, which shows that the problem raised up for rewarding PvP is taken into consideration.
But I think that the proposed solution will create either a bunch of tribunal instances (from looters who did not read this post, from some pirates who are stuck to non-ruled behaviours, etc.), and a lot of discouragement by PvP players, who will simply never recover the loots (because of three warning, because when the battle is over, every one can escape, because of loot sinking in the middle of enemy fleets, etc.)
The proposition that "Loot can be rewarded to the player who gets the kill" is a progress, but what about players who want to recover the repairs from a sunk friend during a PB? This would work, but very partially and very unsatisfactorily.
Taking into account that rewards were given by Admiralties after the battle, please go back to doubloons given like PvP marks before patch 27.
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If the battle is over, the guy can steal the loot and doubloons, then escape before you can sink him.
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WO, BLANC are is US Timezone
MRF in the EU time.
Also, see ANCRE ( @REPUBLIQUE), I think they can guide you, in France faction.
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1 hour ago, LADY CASSARD said:
Nous avons passé des mois à essayer de .../... pendant que d'autres vaquaient à leurs occupations (PVP, Trade....).
Donc nous avons décidé de partir pour laisser la place et trouver d'autres leaders, .../..., tout cela pour être lapidé en place publique, insulté, et certains coffres de clans pillés alors que des ressources avaient été laissé pour les joueurs restants en France.
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Alors, si tu veux régler tes comptes avec certains joueurs, s'il te plait, attaque toi aux bonnes personnes.
C'est bizarre comme votre expérience ressemble à la mienne...
Ma dernière expérience de lapidation date de la PB de Rosaly. J'ai tenté un retour sur le TS français.
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It's a pity to see some clans, who ever left the French faction to go to Denmark or Spain, came back to France with the only target to kill the biggest French clan of the moment (EDR).
This made, they leave the nation again, mission accomplished.
Being former EDR, I left the nation some months ago. I felt pushed out, I was bored of getting kept out of nation RvR and diplomacy. But even in these conditions and at the contrary of the NN clan, my first reflex was not to attack my former mates...
This said, past is over and my salt spread out, I agree that this is just a game. People go where they find fun.
And anyway, good luck to the Normandie-Niemen.
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3 hours ago, Batman said:
Please,
do not nightflip Great Britain.
We want to sleep.
Thanks
They were trying to flip it not so late.
But at around 10 PM server time, I arrived in a Requin, while the hostility was at around 80.4%. They had only 2 Oceans, 1 Aga and 9 fifth rate there, so they were obliged to retreat in front of the big danger I was representing.
In fact, I am guilty…
( @Dutchzzzz )
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18 hours ago, Tac said:
Still dealing with your inner “ angry little Napoleon syndrome”? Chill out man, relax and open a bottle of fine whine.
If you have too much of fine bottles, I can accept this, only for French bottles ofc. I miss those since based in KPR, but I am ready for downloading yours!
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11 hours ago, Thonys said:
clans have to pay for timers
we need to get rid of that tax bribe
and we will see that timers will be set for the clans at a proper time
now only the huge clans with a big wallet have that option
This is not true. When I was French EDR, I managed to pay for ports and timers during around 6 weeks, alone due due to a very tiny clan active player base, it was easy to deposit 40 millions a month in the clan ware house for that. 15 millions a month would have been enough for the port timers, but more was necessary for crafting and other expences.
A single player can finance the timers for any clan. The only concern is to get this player motivated for that (i.e. use several players for that)
Big clan need money makers. They also need some discipline from their officers, not to use this money for their own interests.
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Agreed, but what about sunk players.
You have a Brig + 2 Traders Brigs in fleet. You got tagged. In the battle, the traders escaped but the brig is sunk. You got to the neares port if your outposts are far, and got in a Basic cutter with your fleet… if you can't do it, you will be obliged to open an aoutpost there, if you can (if you did not popped in an enemy port, and if you have slots available for new outposts. This, I never have.
So the game mechanics have to be modified to prevent hiding fleeets behins cutters.
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I found in a French in French book (MRB April 1994) the drawings and description of a gun boat, used as a preparation of Napoleonic landing in Great Britain. These ships actually fought and won a battle against Admiral Nelson, off Boulogne. They got no name, only numbers. I’ll call the model “Boulogne” in the following text.
First of all, a photograph of the model:
Some historical reminders
In 1797, the French government “le Directoire” had a project to create a landing flotilla, with mission to transport and land 80,000 men in England. This first version of the ships (170 units) was variation of some gun boats used by Spain. This first attempt was abandoned in 1798.
In 1801, the idea raised again. A new flotilla is built again. Attacked by Nelson on August 17th, 1801, they defeated the British fleet with support of coastal batteries, causing heavy losses to the enemy. The Treaty of Amiens, favorable to France, was signed soon after. And the flotilla was abandoned again.
On May 18th, 1803, the hostilities resumed and so, another flotilla was built in Boulogne, aiming to land 100,000 soldiers in England. This was built in 6 months and became a very serious threat for Britain, which counter attacked by a continental coalition against France. The results were the French army victory in Austerlitz and the French naval defeat in Trafalgar.
Another fleet was built in 1811, but this one was just a diversionary show, considered a serious threat in London, officially aiming to land two 40,000 forces in South England or even in Ireland, where some local help could be easily found. All that was abandoned when the French “Grande Armée” started the Russian Campaign.
Description of the “Boulogne”
This second version of these gun boats was smaller than the first one. 350 units were built. It was sailed by 5 to 10 sailors and could carry half a company of soldiers (During the 1st French Empire, a company was composed of 140 men, and so the Boulogne could transport 70 soldiers).
This was rigged as lugers, the sail plan and surfaces given in the drawing:
The armament was a 24-pound gun at the bow (seem to be a medium one on the photograph, and an 8-pound army gun (to be landed with the soldiers) at the bow. The weight of this 8-pound gun, without carriage, was 580 kg. Experts of the French maritime museum think that it would have been impossible to use this gun on board without destroying the carriage (army carriage was much lighter than naval one).
If this model is implemented in a naval game:
- It can be discussed if the stern 8pd gun could be implemented anyway.
- It can be discussed the opportunity to add some swivels on the broadsides, to simulate the soldier fire power, which was real and effective.
Precise blue print in attachment.
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Zero crafting in green zone would make all nations like Russia, Poland and Prussia. If all capturable ports are lost, goto free towns.
Hoping that ships for PB can be crafted using only these areas.
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Or two Princes, with a mate if you don't have the DLC.
Never let your speed drop, do not forget manual sailing.
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Just use a secret weapon called "le Requin"
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2 hours ago, Hethwill the Harmless said:
I wonder if the french navy christianed her Le REquien due to the sails resembling shark fins. 🙄
This class of ships got animal names in the French navy:
"Le Singe" would be more historical than "Le Dauphin" ( @PG Monkey )
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58 minutes ago, Fluffy Fishy said:
That is kind of historically accurate, but not for the reasons it should be. History shows us that xebecs are the answer to xebecs thanks to their incredible light construction and fantastic sailing profile giving them a massive edge over more traditional patrol ships, not because they are worthwhile navy vessels. They are perfect for disrupting trade and general raiding, especially in lighter winded areas but dreadful in actual combat.
A Requin being a solution to a Requin isn't a bad thing if its done right, but right now with their unhistorical thick hulls and reasonable HPs its poorly set up both for game balance and history.
I agree this that "They are perfect for disrupting trade and general raiding, especially in lighter winded areas but dreadful in actual combat."
If I refer to my gener knowledge about age of sails for the French Navy, this is perfectly summarize in the Wikipédia ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebec ).
Sorry for this quote in Frenc, translated below:
"La Marine française s’équipe de chébecs plus tardivement, après l’abandon des galères en 1748. Un petit nombre est construit, avec 9 lancements entre 1750 et 1759, puis 4 en 1762. C’est sur un chébec que Suffren, l'un des plus célèbres marins français, exerce ses premiers commandements : le Caméléon en 1764 puis le Singe en 1765. Les deux navires participent, l’année suivante, à une difficile expédition contre la ville corsaire de Larache où se fait remarquer le futur héros de la campagne des Indes. Absolument pas à même d’inquiéter un vaisseau de ligne ni même une frégate, le chébec traverse néanmoins toutes les guerres du XVIIIe siècle et de l’Empire. En 1848, la Marine française en utilise encore un petit exemplaire comme garde-côte. "
"The French Navy is equipped with xebecs later, after abandoning galleys in 1748. A small number is built, with 9 launches between 1750 and 1759, then 4 in 1762. Suffren, one of the most famous French sailors, got his first commandments on xebecs: Le Caméléon in 1764 and Le Singe in 1765. During the following year, the two ships participated in a difficult expedition against the Corsican town of Larache where the future hero of the Indian campaign got noticeable actions. Absolutely not able to worry a ship of the line or even a frigate, the xebec was used through all the wars of the eighteenth century and the Empire. In 1848, the French Navy still uses a small copy as a coast guard."
In Naval Action, I start using xebecs in PvP too. My first victim was a Diana, boarded and killed in three rounds. Historically, I know a single example of a frigate taken by xebecs, USS Philidelphia in 1803. But she was aground on a reef, guns jettisoned out and unable to manoeuvre, during the First Barbarian War.
Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War: “The U.S Navy went unchallenged on the sea, but still the question remained undecided. Jefferson pressed the issue the following year, with an increase in military force and deployment of many of the navy's best ships to the region throughout 1802. Argus, Chesapeake, Constellation, Constitution, Enterprise, Intrepid, Philadelphia and Syren all saw service during the war under the overall command of Preble. Throughout 1803, Preble set up and maintained a blockade of the Barbary ports and executed a campaign of raids and attacks against the cities' fleets.”
A close future will show us if the xebec will remain a threat to SOL’s (@King of Crowns) and frigates, or if defenders will finally learn how to counter it properly.
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Based on the combat log we can read in game above the chats, it should be great is a file could be created on our computers, by copy paste of the battle logs (for example):
"You participated in the battle and earnt 7 PvP marks, 7 combat marks and 125732 gold. Details here:
- killed this one (42% damages), in a Frigate
- kill assisted this other one (15% damages) in a Wasa
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This being added to a txt or csv file, that we could rework to making a log. Either a file per day or a continued file, the simplier the better.
For making this simplier, may be we could first just have the possibility of copy/paste the daily log in text format, in charge to "those who like it" to keep updated their own captain log, in the format they prefer.
Later, maybe, a more customized log...
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23 minutes ago, Hethwill the Harmless said:
( wish i had the knack for sheets, would be a great resource to finally write a captain's log
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In fact, it should be great is a file could be created on our computers, by copy paste of the battle logs:
"You participated in the battle and earnt 7 PvP marks, 7 combat marks and 125732 gold. Details here:
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This being added to a txt or csv file, we could rework to making a log.
I add a topic in "suggestions"
EDIT: Done
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A small update of data collected from the fights in which I was involved, most of them around KPR. I made two separated data, one for August and one for this early September, to see the evolution. I hope that @admin can share more wide data...
Data for August
Date Enemy Requins Enemy Hercules Enemy others Friendly Requins Friendly Hercules Friendly others Enemy losses Friendly losses Remark PB Congrios 23-08-2018 22-40-42 Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PB Turnefe 24-08-2018 22-40-00 No No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes OW 23-08-2018 22-40-42 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes No Yes OW 23-08-2018 22-40-42 No Yes No Yes Yes Yes No No OW 26-08-18 13-22 Yes No No No No Yes No No Surrended (3 Xebecs vs 1 privateer) OW 26-08-2018 14-00-45 Yes No No No No Yes No Yes Surrended (Xebec vs Trader Lynx) Silas in Trader Lynx Yes No No No No Yes No Yes OW 26-08-2018 15-05-51 Yes No Yes No Yes Yes No Yes OW 26-08-2018 17-22-31 No No Yes No Yes Yes No No OW 26-08-2018 18-09-01 Yes No No No No No No Yes OW 26-08-2018 18-38-52 Yes No Yes No No Yes No No OW 26-08-2018 22-15-36 Yes No Yes No Yes Yes Yes No All enemy ships sunk, except Reqs OW 26-08-2018 22-36-26 Yes No No No No Yes No Yes OW 26-08-2018 23-37-49 Yes No No No No Yes Yes No OW 27-08-2018 22-27-07 Yes Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes OW 28-08-2018 22-27-31 Yes No No No No Yes No No OW 28-08-2018 22-44-59 Yes No No No No Yes No No OW 28-08-2018 23-xx-xx Yes Yes No No Yes Yes Yes Yes OW 29-08-2018 22-16-11 Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes OW 30-08-2018 21-40-20 Yes No No No Yes Yes No Yes OW 31-08-2018 22-13-32 No No Yes Yes No Yes Yes No OW 31-08-2018 22-17-51 No No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Average values 77% 27% 41% 32% 50% 95% 36% 55% Data for September
Date Enemy Requins Enemy Hercules Enemy others Friendly Requins Friendly Hercules Friendly others Enemy losses Friendly losses Remark OW 02-09-2018 15-20-07 Yes No No No Yes Yes No Yes 3 Reqs tagging a basic cutter (post Cpt) OW 02-09-2018 15-57-08 Yes No No Yes Yes Yes Yes No Exeptional: a lone Req! OW 02-09-2018 22-11-23 Yes Yes No No No Yes No Yes Tagged LGV lost to the Req OW 04-09-2018 22-24-44 No Yes No Yes Yes Yes Yes No Not in KPR OW 04-09-2018 22-24-44 No No Yes Yes No Yes Yes No OW 05-09-2018 21-38-30 Yes Yes No No Yes Yes No No OW 05-09-2018 21-54-06 Yes No No Yes No Yes No No OW 05-09-2018 23-02-37 Yes No No Yes No Yes No No OW 05-09-2018 23-10 Yes No No Yes No Yes No No OW 05-09-2018 23-30 No Yes Yes Yes No Yes Yes Yes OW 06-09-2018 23-28-07 Yes No No Yes No Yes No No OW 06-09-2018 23-38-15 Yes No No Yes No No No No Spanish xebec running 1v1 OW 06-09-2018 23-54-29 Yes No No No No Yes No Yes midshipman's rookie brig attack, then xebec running 1v1 Average values 77% 31% 15% 69% 31% 92% 31% 31% What is significant there?
- Attackers: Presence of xebecs is stable (around 3 battles out of 4), the presence of Hercules is stable too but lower (around 1 battle out of 3), the presence of other kinds of ships is decreasing (from 41% to 15%).
- Defenders: Twice more xebecs (from 32% to 69%), less Hercules (from 50% to 31%), always a lot of other ships (among them those which were attacked by raiders).
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Losses: Losses among attackers is stable, losses among defenders is decreasing (from 51% to 31%). Defenders seem to learn...
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Pourquoi cette réduction de vitesse de tous les 6e et 7e rangs, sauf le chebec?
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How can a new player start?
in Current Feature Improvement Suggestions
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Thanks @rediii.
To be more clear, I hope 100%, I could accept not to find any mission above the 5th rate in capitals, but for sure 7th rate missons and 6th rate missions must be found, easily, and replaced when consumed.