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On 12/14/2017 at 10:48 AM, Iroquois Confederacy said:
The Council has convened. The Free Tribes will establish embassies within the Commonwealth of Poland, and continue to supply forage, wealth, and scalps to those Haudenosaunee fighting in the region of Cadarakui and Okswego.
Good luck to you and your Free Tribes
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7 minutes ago, Palatinose said:
Heard the "Vodka rations" skill book has a 30% penalty on precision tho...
True, vodka rations may give a 30% penalty for precision, but vodka rations also gives a 30% bonus to crew/health.
Men who are already pickled in vodka will not realize they are hurt (or even dead) and will continue fighting.
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1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said:
I assume he has two accounts like some of us. I'm thinking they should allow some way to do a name/nation change for those folks that are merging over. Since the wipe I haven't played much on EU server but I still have chars in nations that don't make what I have on GLOBAL (which I play pretty much all pirates).
Sir Texas Sir is in GB and I have no plan to play GB on EU so I would want to change that nation to what ever nation my clan ends up going to when this happens.
Presumably if you still have a set of forged papers left (on either of the two existing servers) this would allow you to move to another nation.
If you don't have any forged papers left (I have not played much recently so I think I have at least one set on each server) then maybe as part of this server merger the developers will grant one more set of forged papers to everyone so that they can roll to the nation of their choice.
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15 hours ago, Bach said:
I got it just fine. I simply don't think it will accomplish anything worth while beyond feeding you more targets for awhile. If you want competition then you need to figure a way to spread the sports talent into other teams. But I don't think competition is what you were ever really looking for anyway.
No one cares about Olympic basketball since the USA was allowed to field an entire team of pro players. Its simply not worth watching.
For how many decades did the Soviet (Red Army i believe) hockey team dominate Olympic hockey (IIRC, they (Soviets or "Unified Team) won it 8 out of 10 consecutive Olympic hockey championships between 1960-1992)? Those teams were essentially pro players, while other countries were forced to field amateur teams, yet people still watched.
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13 hours ago, Duncan McFail said:
The lower BR is to force a team to vary its fleet makeup.
i think the last thing that anyone wants to see is a 3 v 3 battle made up of a monochrome fleet.
Such a BR limit forces a varied fleet makeup and also forces a team to adjust its tactics accordingly. You can't just sail broadside to broadside when you and your oppoennents have ships with varying capabilities.
IIRC, The 3v3 tournament that happened last year had a BR limit of 450.
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17 hours ago, admin said:
imagine being a frigate captain during peace time
From reading the Patrick O;Brian and Dewey Lambdin novels my impression of peace time was that frigate captains sat around at half pay. They were a nuisance to their wives....they went to the Admiralty office every few weeks looking for work, then they came back home and pestered their wives again. Their highlight was when war finally broke out again.
Fun times I'm sure.
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46 minutes ago, delaine said:
i will have to figured id post it on here ill f11 next time
I believe that when you F-11 it it gives the devs the exact coordinates where it happened. I suppose that it makes it easier for them to find and correct it that way.
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It happens. Just F-11 it.
I also on occasion saw an AI ship permanently stuck outside a port, for several days. I F-11'd it and the next day the stuck ship was gone.
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Someone violated the Temporal Prime Directive by introducing future technology into a 19th century ship. ;-)
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This would certainly be useful but we must remember that this would all be on the "honors" system. There is no in game mechanic to enforce things like "NAP/Trade - ANY MILITARY SHIP IS ENGAGEABLE" or "ALLY - NO SHIPS ARE ENGAGEABLE in any waters".
Uninformed players will do what they do, and some solo privateers choose not to observe the pleasantries of these arrangements since they are looking for PvP and may not care about RvR or diplomatic arrangements.
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13 hours ago, koltes said:
Thank you moderators. I don't know how much both of you involved in RvR and National politics (I know that RedDuke for example like his hunting and doesn't participate much in RvR), but I can tell you this - having this forum section where only clan leaders and diplos talk will make it million times less toxic and will help us to communicate better and easier cutting all the trash from every single troll on the forum.
From moderator's standpoint this will NOT create more trolls or complains. The toxic leaders of the clans that you have to deal with you still have to deal with today anyway. But the Diplo forum will cut down all the other trolls. Can you elaborate on this? Specifically how this will create more reports than what you currently have if trolls cant post? As for your comment Duke about rotten tomatoes and eggs isn't it why you moderators having hard time dealing with all the crap?
From game community's standpoint if something is required to be done by the players, while it requires no time to set up and minimal involvement, but helps to improve the community interaction argument that its going to be hard to moderate sort of a weak one.Moderating forums is a complete separate issue (which has non related ways of sorting) and should not stop us players to have the content we want/need.
On any forum it takes 5 mins to create such section. It takes another 5 mins to create Diplo tag. Please don't tell me this is hard.
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What do you guys think. Do we need a forum section where only clan leaders and their Diplos can post? Maybe private altogether? Or open to view? If yes +1 it. If not, then fair enoughI don't think that such a sub-forum on this Naval Action website is a necessity.
This website is (to my knowledge) owned by Game Labs and its purpose is to support and facilitate the game development. I think that creating such a subforum would then (by implication) require it to be moderated. I'm not sure whether Game Labs would want to undertake such a responsibility.
As some others have stated, there are already some 'back channels' which allow diplomatic contacts.
Additionally, before the big Patch 10.0/server changes, I had requested (and gotten) Mustaparta (owner of a currently populated Naval Action DISCORD) to set up a "Diplomacy" channel on that DISCORD. The idea was that it would provide for a place where the diplomats from the various nations could interact with other diplos. The channel was set up to require a diplomat tag before one could participate in that channel. I checked today and that channel is no longer in that DISCORD (probably because there was no one using it). If there were sufficient interest in resurrecting something like that AND IF IT WERE ACTUALLY USED, then I suspect that Mustaparta might be convinced to resurrect a DIPLOMACY channel there.
For those that would like to check out the DISCORD that I referred to here is a link to it:
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4 hours ago, Chijohnaok said:
Organizing training is easier said than done. Since the Patch 10 I have been in 2 nations (US and GB). We repeatedly attempted to organize training activities for those captains that needed help with things like manual sails. Responses ranged from clan leaders telling us that 'their members don't need that shit' to training sessions where no one showed up. We were called elitists when we offered to conduct training sessions OR we were called toxic for criticizing when we saw captains that could not stay out of irons in a 4th rate PB or do simple things like sail in lines, turn in succession, or follow a port battle commander's orders.
Addendum: They say hope springs eternal, so we are willing to keep trying. ;-)
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8 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:
We told them from day one bring a proper screening fleet and we will just fight you out side and never go inside the port battle. That is honestly the best way for them to stop us from taking ports, but when they show up in light ships and store bought ships for a 4th rate or LOS port battle and all they do is tag and run and tag an run using a broken BR mechanics it's not fun. If you look at every port battle we made it into so far and there was a fight we where always out number by a couple. Add the forts and towers on the defenders side they odds should been in there favor if they just brought proper ships and tried to fight.
Regarding your last comment, In some ports the forts and towers cover little to none of the 3 circles (see Santa Marta--which I grant was uncontested)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bx3OZcHt9VbNMTNvTXFIQ2RVUVk
While at Port au Prince (which has very good coverage from the forts), we (GB) had like 4 captains who in the first 10 minutes of the battle refused (or ignored) the PB commander's orders and turned to a course that placed them OUTSIDE the fort coverage and right into the pirate blob (then they were then promptly sunk).
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48 minutes ago, Tenet said:
This is the biggest lie in this entire chain of events.
Every ex-GB player that switched Dutch or France reported the same thing - brutal exploitation and suppression of rookies. Total lack of support, wild prices, no culture of fair direct supply. You had all that human capital and you wasted it, not even realizing it's worth. Talk to some recruiters among these nations, see how much value they place on just one more person to train up.
I clearly remember the mocking of open recruiting methods - "oh you take just anyone" not realizing it was a bleeding wound.
Then there is training - it's easy to criticize your own people for not using manual sails. How many organized trainings did GB hold, on voice chat explaining to rookies how to sail in line, how to tack? No time to do so since the wipe, really?
Who lacked the leadership and charisma to organize a national campaign of armament and practice?
Organizing training is easier said than done. Since the Patch 10 I have been in 2 nations (US and GB). We repeatedly attempted to organize training activities for those captains that needed help with things like manual sails. Responses ranged from clan leaders telling us that 'their members don't need that shit' to training sessions where no one showed up. We were called elitists when we offered to conduct training sessions OR we were called toxic for criticizing when we saw captains that could not stay out of irons in a 4th rate PB or do simple things like sail in lines, turn in succession, or follow a port battle commander's orders.
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On 7/19/2017 at 9:15 PM, Bach said:
Many issues for large nations are simply due to the "nation council" concept. It's a war game. As much as Sun Tzu Art of War strategy is actually bad for MMOs so is Democracy. The concept of "committee rule" is more difficult the more players you have. The pirate nation has the ability to establish a pecking order more than most. Not that it is easy. But being under constant assault, Mortimer is a heavily hunted zone, and having the option of green on green conflict they have more tools to resolve internal pecking order.
If the USA and Brit nations had tools to establish clan pecking orders they would truly become the more dangerous teams. The Devs needs to consider this. It is also part of what made the Nuetral Faction idea fail. It was irrelevant since clans with actual nuetral tendencies could just hide inside the supposedly warring nations without penalty. But if the largest Brit clan could force its will on smaller ones higher level of organization is more likely to form.
You're dreaming.
How is the largest British clan (and I am not sure who that even is) supposed to enforce its will on smaller ones?
In the pirate nation, smaller clans that resist are subject to outlaw battles to try to keep them in line. That is not an option in GB or any of the other nations. If a small clan (or any clan for that matter) doesn't like a decision (either imposed or arrived at by consensus of the majority) than they simply ignore it. There is no penalty currently in game for GB (or other national) one clan to "force its will" on another.
And I have seen no indication anywhere (forums or otherwise) that the developers have ever considered giving the outlaw tool to any nation other than pirate. (In the distant past if you attacked someone of your own nation it automatically made you a pirate).
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37 minutes ago, Slamz said:
I wonder about this, really.
I know when France got one-ported back early in 2016, I personally thought it did a world of good for the team. Yeah some people quit but let's be real: those people are carebears who don't really like the game. The people who stayed -- and it was a good number -- all had a blast. We fought those pirates so viciously that in the end, it was them who quit!
It's kind of like..... One time I was dating this girl and she was just super needy. She had shows she liked to watch that I couldn't stand but it was unacceptable for me to just go do something else while she watched her show. Nope, I had to sit there and watch it with her. She hated it if I went to the bar without her (it was happy hour with the coworkers! They're all dudes, even!) Of course she said she loved me but I came to realize she loved some idealized version of me -- the version that exists in some parallel universe that likes doing literally everything with her -- instead of the actual me, who likes playing online games, hitting a bar with the coworkers now and then and not watching her dumb shows. For both our sakes, I dumped her and god speed her to finding someone who actually matches what she's looking for.
People who quit Naval Action because they got one-ported are just like that old girlfriend.
They love an idealized version of this game which is not reality. If they loved the game they'd also love being one-ported. They'd love to fight against it, to the death, and they'd be cranking out the PvP ship of the day to sack pirates wherever pirates can be found.
People who love this game would tell pirates to go to hell even as the steamroller hits them.
So in my opinion, the only thing you can do is wake some people up to the reality of this game and see if they like the real Naval Action, or the fictional version that exists only inside their own head.
And god speed those people to finding a game that matches what they really want, instead of sitting here in this game, making us all miserable.
Being one ported is not a pleasant experience. I was in the PvP 1 US nation that was one ported TWICE by the Pirate SORRY clan. As a result of that we lost more than half our nation's players and it took us at least 6 months of effort/organizing/training before we were a viable force again.
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6 hours ago, Jarlath Morrow said:
Since the original intent of the thread is long lost, I might as well jump in on the screening debate. Without engaging in a debate about whether screening is good or bad (I don't care), let us discuss another question - is screening fun?
During our attack on PaP I was attacked by 17 British players. 5 of them stayed with me to capture my Agamemnon and the others left the battle for other prey. I gave them a hell of a time lasting more than 30 minutes, and employed lots of tricks to stay alive, keep my ship intact, and keep fighting. Without a doubt I can say that I'm a better fighter for having been ganked. But my problem is the 5 guys ganking me didn't seem like they were having fun.
This goes for the many other screener battles I have been in. In most of them the screeners did not have as favorable odds as the battle against my Agamemnon, and end up sinking en masse in store bought Frigates and Renomees. They may have won the day by delaying a PB, but they don't seem like they are having much fun either.
You are wrong about that.
I have done plenty of screening (both on Global and previously on PvP 1). There were plenty of battles in which not only did the screeners have fun, but those within the port battle fleet later commented that it sounded as if the screeners had more fun than they did in the PB (best example of that was when PvP 1 Danes tried taking Bermuda from the Brits 3 weeks in a row. Each time the screeners were the key to victory and those in the British/US/Dutch PB fleet commented at for at least one if not 2 of the PBs that they thought it sounded as if the screeners had more fun. I and a group of 15-25 US captains sailed round trip for 5 hours on each of those 3 occasions).
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12 minutes ago, Slamz said:
To some extent this is how France works.
We made a Discord for text chat (it's free! and runs right in your browser. I have still not downloaded the app). All clans coordinate and text-chat through Discord. Mainly it's leaders and representatives talking business.
This is nice because we can casually keep up and ask questions and not have to schedule a meeting (ugh!) and Discord keeps a log of chat so you can log in 4 hours later and catch up on the conversation.
So France is a mishmash of guilds but mostly we are on the same page via Discord. I encourage some British clan to set this up and start inviting other Brit leaders and officers into it.
We already have this in place. The PvP 1 clans brought this with, even insisted on it for the GB nation. This was SOP for the the PvP 1 US/Brit/Dutch alliance going back for about a year.
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2 hours ago, Skully said:
The game suffers because we execute a goal that isn't accommodated for. Namely annihilation of Nations, which has effectively already happened to Global Spain.
How exactly was Global Spain "annihilated"?
It was basically an empty nation to start with. When we had the Global Server meeting on (IIRC) April 1st, there was only 1 player who committed to playing Spain on the Global Server. (And I don't believe that "Dave", the player who seems most active in Spain is even the one who said he would play in the Spanish nation in that meeting).
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32 minutes ago, Slamz said:
You're probably right, which really says a lot about how useless first rates really are.
The first rate fights I've been in mostly consisted of 4th and 5th rates catching a 1st rate on the high seas and stealing it.
I would bet more 1st rates have been stolen in this game than have ever been sunk. They're more like a trophy than a practical fighting ship.
1st rates can be effective in 1st rate port battles (provided that the captain sailing it knows how to effectively use it).
1st rates can also be effective for grinding hostility to generate port battles, provided that they have smaller ships (frigates and such) as an escort for protection.
And I fully agree that many 1st rates are "stolen" because the captains sailing it uses it stupidly (sailing solo on PVE missions), sailing solo in general, using it for fishing, etc.
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The upset player should build some production buildings and sell to the market if they are so concerned about this.
(And I agree that the post should have probably been elsewhere---I am not sure where though).
Perhaps the mods can move this to a more appropriate subforum.
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7 hours ago, Cmdr RideZ said:
Diplomacy in Naval Action...
A: *point you with a finger*
B: If you do not stop that I am going to TEAR YOUR F*ING FACE OFF!!!
A: *Still pointing*
B: YOU F*ER ASKED FOR THIS!!! IM GOING TO TEAR YOUR WHOLE NATIONS FACE OFF!!!
B: *Take a screen shot for later brags*
Eh......history is filled with examples of wars that were started for stupid reasons:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17123_the-5-most-retarded-wars-ever-fought.html
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This is the Caribbean....why don't we introduce cholera and other nasty diseases as well?
How'd you like to have a quarter or more of your crew die miserably while you are logged off of the game? I mean it's historically accurate, isn't it?
No to slavery being represented in the game and not everything MUST be historically reflected in the game.
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The gig is up Christendom. Your American alt Daniel Silver has been exposed.
How masterful was it for you to both participate in the Soto La Marina port battle as a Brit AND simultaneously lead the American port battle fleet with your Daniel Silver alt.
You magnificent bastard.
And now your days as The Puppetmaster are over:
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