Ned Loe Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 'Prins Friso' History The ship of the line 'Prins Friso' carried 50 guns. Length 144 foot, breadth 42 foot, depth in hold 14,5 foot (all amsterdamse voet). The ship was build from 1728 to 1730 on the Admirality shipyard in Harlingen. The construction was pre-aproved by the Admirality of Amsterdam, due to the wish to consult the English shipwright Thomas Davis regarding construction. The wood needed was bought and fabricated in Amsterdam and then transported to Friesland. Characteristics Dutch Republic Operator Admiralty of Friesland Launched 1730 How acquired Purpose Build Shipyard Harlingen Navy Yard Constructor Thomas Davis Category Fourth Rate Rate Fourth Charter (Dutch rating) Ship Type Ship of the Line Guns 50 Note. Ship was already mentioned on this forum, but never in details. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Prins Friso Dutch Republic Operator Admiralty of Friesland Launched 1730 How acquired Purpose Build Shipyard Harlingen Navy Yard Constructor Thomas Davis Category Fourth Rate Rate Fourth Charter (Dutch rating) Ship Type Ship of the Line (threedecks) The ship of the line 'Prins Friso' carried 50 guns. Length 144 foot, breadth 42 foot, depth in hold 14,5 foot (all amsterdamse voet). The ship was build from 1728 to 1730 on the Admirality shipyard in Harlingen. The construction was pre-aproved by the Admirality of Amsterdam, due to the wish to consult the English shipwright Thomas Davis regarding construction. The wood needed was bought and fabricated in Amsterdam and then transported to Friesland. Little is known about the actual carreer, except that she was commanded by Lieuwe Hendrikcksz. Prigge in 1744-1746. The ship was part of an auxiliary squadron in the combined Anglo-Dutch fleet (1744 is the middle of the War of Austrian succesion). She was recorded to be in England somewhere in 1744 and back home somewhere in 1745. In 1756 the ship was sold by auction. If you can find more, be my quest. This is just some generic information. History Dutch republic ship of the line. Was involved in Battle of Texel. Battle of Texel was roughly 60 years before her build. Or 40 when talking about the other Battle of Texel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Prins Friso Dutch Republic Operator Admiralty of Friesland Launched 1730 M01 Home Port M01 How acquired Purpose built M01 Shipyard Harlingen Navy Yard M01 Constructor Thomas Davis M01 Category Fourth Rate M01 National Rate Fourth Charter Ship Type Ship of the Line (threedecks) The ship of the line 'Prins Friso' carried 50 guns. Length 144 foot, breadth 42 foot, depth in hold 14,5 foot (all amsterdamse voet). The ship was build from 1728 to 1730 on the Admirality shipyard in Harlingen. The construction was pre-aproved by the Admirality of Amsterdam, due to the wish to consult the English shipwright Thomas Davis regarding construction. The wood needed was bought and fabricated in Amsterdam and then transported to Friesland. Little is known about the actual carreer, except that she was commanded by Lieuwe Hendrikcksz. Prigge in 1744-1746. The ship was part of an auxiliary squadron in the combined Anglo-Dutch fleet (1744 is the middle of the War of Austrian succesion). She was recorded to be in England somewhere in 1744 and back home somewhere in 1745. In 1756 the ship was sold by auction. If you can find more, be my quest. This is just some generic information. Thank you for this information. I also found that this ship took part in Battle of Texel and was capped by Maure. Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Texel_(1694) Also, it would be nice to find it's armament size. It says it carried 58 guns during the battle and was a Flagship. It could mean 4 more guns were added on topdeck per side. -------------------------------- Battle of Dogger Bank (1696) Maure, frigate, 54 cannons, flagship of captain Jean Bart: 15 killed, 16 wounded. Need more info on French ship. (This is very interesting frigate with some nice battle history). Worth researching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Thank you for this information. I also found that this ship took part in Battle of Texel and was capped by Maure. Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Texel_(1694) Also, it would be nice to find it's armament size. It says it carried 58 guns during the battle and was a Flagship. It could mean 4 more guns were added on topdeck per side. -------------------------------- Battle of Dogger Bank (1696) Maure, frigate, 54 cannons, flagship of captain Jean Bart: 15 killed, 16 wounded. Need more info on French ship. (This is very interesting frigate with some nice battle history). Worth researching. The Prins Friso you are referring to is the 1693 one. which would be captured and renamed to: 'Le Prince de Frise' And the plans clearly belong to a ship post-1700/1710, since the stern imagery is gone. Not to mention the flattering of the sheer. In the painting you have provided (of the Battle of Texel in 1694) you can see the Prins Friso with stern imagery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 The Prins Friso you are referring to is the 1693 one. which would be captured and renamed to: 'Le Prince de Frise' I see. What guns do you think she was carrying? 18lbs +9lbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 You will have to summon greater mind than mine if you are interested in French ships Malachi, surcout, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Malachi please help us find info regarding this French Frigate 54 guns for 1696 Frigate is interesting. I have a feeling it's a 2 decker mini lineship. Battle of Dogger Bank (1696) Maure, frigate, 54 cannons, flagship of captain Jean Bart: 15 killed, 16 wounded. Need more info on French ship. (This is very interesting frigate with some nice battle history). Worth researching. Battle of the Lizard http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/913092/Battle%20of%20the%20Lizard ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name mentioned here, but could be a British ship: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y35nAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA513&lpg=PA513&dq=Maure+54+ship&source=bl&ots=YBqHDaRBAw&sig=nJow7WnKtcCg3obLjWAqRxj58zs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjnMzsqcvNAhUGoD4KHRMhD5cQ6AEIOjAE#v=onepage&q=Maure%2054%20ship&f=false Disaster of the Portugal Convoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 This maybe? http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2309 http://felipe.mbnet.fi/html/3th__rates_1648-1715.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 With +50 guns, Le Maure would have been a Vaisseau de 3e rang, not a frégate Designed by Blaise Pangalo, launched 1688 at Toulon, stationed at Dunkirk in 1696. Dimensions 41,3 x 11,7 x 4,9 x 5,8 Armament 22 18-pounders, 22 12-pounders, 6 6-pounders, crew 300. Described as a 'bon volier'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 With +50 guns, Le Maure would have been a Vaisseau de 3e rang, not a frégate Designed by Blaise Pangalo, launched 1688 at Toulon, stationed at Dunkirk in 1696. Dimensions 41,3 x 11,7 x 4,9 x 5,8 Armarment 22 18-pounders, 22 12-pounders, 6 6-pounders, crew 300. Described as a 'bon volier'. Thanks. Do you think her plans survived? btw, someone fix wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Don´t think so. But SoLs aren´t really my forte. I guess she would have been pretty similiar in appearance to Le Trident (1695) by F. Coulomb, although this ship had a heavier battery (24*24-pounder/24*12-pounders/10 6-pounders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Malachi, side note, in that massive database of yours are there any Dutch plans hidden somewhere that haven't seen the light of day yet on the forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Dutch plans? No, I just have those from the nationaal archief and all of them already have been posted. Edit: Ha. Not quite correct, I also have this one 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 That is an excellent ship if they ever intent to implement an in-game tutorial, hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytse Pier Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I'd be happy to pay an upgrade to get this ship! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 she will most likely go sideways just as much as she will make way ahead. that hullshape means leeway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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