The return of the Battleship?

[Joryl]

I thought this was pretty cool

 imagine it blasting a carrier taskforce 1000 miles away it would be out of range of sea and air radar man talk about  a nasty surprise.  

Earlier this year, Popular Mechanics published leaked photos showing the capabilities of the SLRC. With an effective range of 1,000 nautical miles—at 1,150 miles, that's about 1,130 miles farther than existing guns—the SLRC could be a truly revolutionary breakthrough in artillery warfare.

The Army hasn’t explained how it will reach such a mind-bending range, but it seems confident the gun will work as planned. A committee formed by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine is currently taking a look at the technology to determine its feasibility, and the service plans to test a prototype in 2023. The Army envisions the SLRC as a towed gun pulled by a heavy truck, using its range to blast a hole in enemy air and sea defenses big enough for U.S. forces to squeeze through.

SLRC faces limitations as a wholly land-based system. The Army would need to gather permission from countries such as the Philippines, Germany, Norway, or Japan to locate the weapon on their soil, and as a truck-based weapon, it would be restricted to paved roads. Just getting the gun to the battlefield would require nearby airfields, secure airspace, and enough Air Force transports to lug the big guns around.

 

A single ship could carry the entire four-gun battery the Army envisioned deploying SLRC abroad, plus shells to keep the guns firing. A warship could relocate the guns at sea without asking anyone for permission, and would be more difficult for enemy forces to target. It would also have greater flexibility, deploying into areas where local allies might not be willing to host big guns.

 

 

Now, in 2020, a battleship could reach up to 1,000 nautical miles while the F-35C, the seagoing version of the Joint Strike Fighter, has a combat radius between 630 and 740 miles.

 

 

 

[Friedrich]

This sounds less like artillery and more like a scramjet missile with a gunlike launch platform. Interesting, but probably not revolutionary considering that the technologies presumably involved could be applied to current missile designs, thus making this a merely evolutionary change.

[Tousansons]

What's cool with projects is that they always sounds awesome when they are imagined. Then, 5-10-15 years later if the prototype is finally completed, this sound just like a colossal waste of money and time.

Battleships are dead.

[Cptbarney]

2 hours ago, Tousansons said:

What's cool with projects is that they always sounds awesome when they are imagined. Then, 5-10-15 years later if the prototype is finally completed, this sound just like a colossal waste of money and time.

Battleships are dead.

Eh we can go with missile battleships instead. Although if EMP technology develops faster than counter EMP, you will need guns at some point.

[Joryl]

The way I look at it Ballistic fire is very hard counter.   missiles rely on targeting software and hardware that can be countered not to mention the Phalanx CIWS that can blow them out of the sky that being said it all depends on what the new artillery looks like also generally speaking shells are a lot less expensive to produce and use as well as store compared to missiles. . 

[Bluishdoor76]

50 minutes ago, Joryl said:

The way I look at it Ballistic fire is very hard counter.   missiles rely on targeting software and hardware that can be countered not to mention the Phalanx CIWS that can blow them out of the sky that being said it all depends on what the new artillery looks like also generally speaking shells are a lot less expensive to produce and use as well as store compared to missiles. . 

Hyper sonic missiles have fixed pretty much a lot of that, as no current point defense system is capable of stopping them.

[Cptbarney]

10 hours ago, Bluishdoor76 said:

Hyper sonic missiles have fixed pretty much a lot of that, as no current point defense system is capable of stopping them.

Eh, they are already working on dat.

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-us-navy-may-soon-have-a-way-to-shoot-down-hypersonic-missiles/

Fat missiles will go boom soon, then we can ultrasonic missiles! yay 'w' lol.

Humanity likes to play checkmate with itself all the time, also ill send 2 billion letters to the pentagon to make a missile based light cruiser at 20,000 tonnes (since ships have gotten more chonk as the years have gone by).

[Bluishdoor76]

10 minutes ago, Cptbarney said:

Eh, they are already working on dat.

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-us-navy-may-soon-have-a-way-to-shoot-down-hypersonic-missiles/

Fat missiles will go boom soon, then we can ultrasonic missiles! yay 'w' lol.

Humanity likes to play checkmate with itself all the time, also ill send 2 billion letters to the pentagon to make a missile based light cruiser at 20,000 tonnes (since ships have gotten more chonk as the years have gone by).

I've read that the US has several projects to develop its own Hypersonic missile, I dont really know if there are any plans to develop a CIWS tho, not outside the possibility of course.

[Cptbarney]

2 minutes ago, Bluishdoor76 said:

I've read that the US has several projects to develop its own Hypersonic missile, I dont really know if there are any plans to develop a CIWS tho, not outside the possibility of course.

Well not american, but the south koreans are making this smoll thing.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/south-korea-developing-the-new-ciws-ii-close-in-weapon-system-for-rok-navy/

Model is quite cute. They should build bigger ships to have moar of them and we can have the excuse of seeing bigger ships again.

Always wondered what a 2020's era light cruiser would look like.

[Bluishdoor76]

3 minutes ago, Cptbarney said:

Well not american, but the south koreans are making this smoll thing.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/south-korea-developing-the-new-ciws-ii-close-in-weapon-system-for-rok-navy/

Model is quite cute. They should build bigger ships to have moar of them and we can have the excuse of seeing bigger ships again.

Always wondered what a 2020's era light cruiser would look like.

Hu interesting, makes sense that the ROK is developing a CIWS to counter hypersonic missiles since China is a close neighbor and one of 2 users of hypersonic missiles. Tho without their own missile I wonder how they would test it. Also that ship sort of resembles the now cancelled Zumwalt class destroyer lol

[Cptbarney]

7 minutes ago, Bluishdoor76 said:

Hu interesting, makes sense that the ROK is developing a CIWS to counter hypersonic missiles since China is a close neighbor and one of 2 users of hypersonic missiles. Tho without their own missile I wonder how they would test it. Also that ship sort of resembles the now cancelled Zumwalt class destroyer lol

America should of just made a 15-16k tonne heavy destroyer and then created a hull about 22k so they could test more advanced systems on it since the bigger the space the moar you have to play with.

They could buy those missiles without the explosive filler and other complex parts since all they need is the thing to fly really, really fast and then launch one-by-one and maybe in a swarm and test it that way. Maybe.

But yeah nice too see more developments in CIWS in-general. I would love to see AA just too see the effects in this game doe. Would be really cool nonetheless.

[Bry7x7x7]

The only way I can see Battleships as we know them making a come back is if A: laser point defense of missiles (and maybe even against aircraft) is made to be very effective, and B: You do something about submarines to make them less deadly.

I don't see these happening anytime soon. On top of that I rather dispise the looks of modern war ships quite a bit, so I rather wouldn't want to see what they do to battleships.

[Norbert Sattler]

With how big "destroyers" are now, they'd probably call a 50k tonnes ship a cruiser anyway. ^^