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Russian third rate ship of the line 'Sviatoi Georgii Pobedonosets' (1780) 66 guns

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Sviatoi Georgii Pobedonosets 21019 Nominal Guns 66 Nationality Russia Operator Baltic Sea Keel Laid Down 1778/07/09 Launched 1780/09/16 How acquired Purpose built Shipyard Kronshtadt Ship Class Aziia Class Constructor A. S. Katsanov Category Third Rate Ship Type Ship of the Line Broken Up 1808

 

 

Dimensions Dimension Measurement Type Metric Equivalent RWAS Length of Gundeck 160' 0" Imperial Feet   Breadth 44' 6" Imperial Feet   Depth in Hold 19' 0" Imperial Feet   Armament 1780/09/16   Broadside Weight = 469.5 Russian Artillery Pound (564.285 lbs 255.8292 kg) RWAS Lower Gun Deck 24 Russian 24-Pounder Lower Gun Deck 2 Russian 1-Pood Edinorog (1767) Upper Gun Deck 2 Russian 1/2-Pood Edinorog Upper Gun Deck 22 Russian 12-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle 16 Russian 6-Pounder

 

I have pictures intended for modelling but am unable to upload due to file size so am not sure what to do about that.

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Are plans such as these acceptable? I have more:

HMS Leopard 50 1790

USS Essex 32 1799

Russian Azov 74 1826 - just a tad late

Russian Vostok 24 1818

Russian Mirny 24 1819

Bon-Home-Richard - have not checked whether plans already available on the forum

HMS Royal Caroline 1750 - beatutiful royal yacht

San Felipe 104 1690

Russian Poltava 54 1712

L'Astrolabe 14 1812

le commerce de marseille 118 1778

la diligente 20 1801

la salamandre 26 1752 - don't quote

La_Requin 1750

La Belle Poule 32 1765 - did not count the ports due to a whole ton of zoomed in pictures. May be the older 1828 ship with 60 guns

Le Cygne 16

Ambiteoux 96 1792 or 1793

La Creole 24 1829 - also slightly late

Also a generic brigantine plans from 18th century

 

Admiralty plans for the following ships:

HMS Alfred 74 1778

HMS Pelican 16 1812

HMS Roebuck 44 1774 - more details than we have here http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2967-hms-roebuck-1774-44-gun-frigate-with-plans/

HMS Druid 16 1776

USS Hancock 32 1776

USS Confederacy 36 1778

Oliver Cromwell 24 1777 - philly privateer

 

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Are plans such as these acceptable? I have more:

HMS Leopard 50 1790

USS Essex 32 1799

Russian Azov 74 1826 - just a tad late

Russian Vostok 24 1818

Russian Mirny 24 1819

Bon-Home-Richard - have not checked whether plans already available on the forum

HMS Royal Caroline 1750 - beatutiful royal yacht

San Felipe 104 1690

Russian Poltava 54 1712

L'Astrolabe 14 1812

le commerce de marseille 118 1778

la diligente 20 1801

la salamandre 26 1752 - don't quote

La_Requin 1750

La Belle Poule 32 1765 - did not count the ports due to a whole ton of zoomed in pictures. May be the older 1828 ship with 60 guns

Le Cygne 16

Ambiteoux 96 1792 or 1793

La Creole 24 1829 - also slightly late

Also a generic brigantine plans from 18th century

 

Admiralty plans for the following ships:

HMS Alfred 74 1778

HMS Pelican 16 1812

HMS Roebuck 44 1774 - more details than we have here http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2967-hms-roebuck-1774-44-gun-frigate-with-plans/

HMS Druid 16 1776

USS Hancock 32 1776

USS Confederacy 36 1778

Oliver Cromwell 24 1777 - philly privateer

 

 

Yes, I would suggest to put all those plans into Drop-box and post a link.

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Any suggestions on websites where large files can be uploaded? le commerce de marseille is 500 mb. I found all these plans through some careful digging so no claims for ownership from here as everything was online.

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Any suggestions on websites where large files can be uploaded? le commerce de marseille is 500 mb. I found all these plans through some careful digging so no claims for ownership from here as everything was online.

https://www.google.com/drive/

 

15 gb free space!

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According to this Russian website the (modern) plan posted by @russian is definitely not representing the "Pobedonosets" of 1780 but, most likely, the "Slava Ekaterina" (if I understand correctly):

http://forum.modelsworld.ru/topic5535start15.html

Quote:

Все это убедило меня, что реконструкция "Ладьи" к Победоносцу 1780 г. никакого отношения не имеет. И тогда в полный рост встал вопрос - что это за корабль. 
Окончательную точку в этом деле позволили поставить два чертежа: один выложенный на этом сайте Александром Добренко и второй 66-пуш. СВ Павла найденный Галиной Александровной в РГАВМФ. Поэтому то, что многие из Вас строили под названием "Победоносец" на самом деле один из первых кораблей ЧФ и судя по декору возможно "Слава Екатерины".
Денису.
Шпигаты до Азова были. На 100-пуш. в гон-дек палубе 8 + 2 в клюз-баке на борт.

The correct plan is this one by A. S. Katasanov, dated 1801

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ytkcpk5t3vqj5z0/AAA0py_d8tewg2SB35LTzODua?dl=0&preview=b5ec4ce4e4cd.jpg

 

... already posted by Mighty_Alex here: 

 

 

The Russian site also provides links to coloured drawings of the decorations and colour scheme of the Pobedonosets - very different from those of the Slava Ekaterina, in my opinion - , apparently by A. S. Katasanov, but, unfortunately, I cannot open the thumbnails to see the full pictures (see post by Alex Greb dated 21 Oct 2011, Fri 09:54).

Access anyone?

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17 hours ago, Wagram said:

...unfortunately, I cannot open the thumbnails to see the full pictures (see post by Alex Greb dated 21 Oct 2011, Fri 09:54).

Access anyone?

Silly me! Just click "закрыть и перейти к сайту" and the pop up disappears. There you are...

Sorry, I'm always reluctant to click pop ups... :P

https://radikal.ru/lfp/s017.radikal.ru/i417/1110/4d/d9b77422a418.jpg/htm

https://radikal.ru/lfp/s48.radikal.ru/i120/1110/9f/7d0189bfbc02.jpg/htm

https://radikal.ru/lfp/s017.radikal.ru/i403/1110/13/93228735c3dd.jpg/htm

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