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@Surcouf C'est génial de nous faire partager ça !!!
Vous parlez un long moment de l'opération de muder , c'est-à-dire de "faire passer l’antenne d’une voile d’un côté à l’autre du mât." Et tu écris à ce sujet : "Mais généralement, la voile est basculée en mettent l'antenne presque a l'horizontale pour le portant et ramenée dans l'axe pour le près. On ne touche pas virement aux bastaques. Mais c'est faisable."
Par contre, sauf erreur de ma part, vous n'envisagez pas la manoeuvre qui consiste à faire basculer l'antenne d'une voile latine à l'horizontale au largue et vent arrière et que j'ai pu voir dans les sources suivantes (dont je ne connais pas la valeur) :
http://www.copainsdespointus.com/_media/utilisation-voile-latine.pdf
http://voilelatinesete.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/navigation-Vence.pdf
http://voilelatinesete.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/manuel_ecole2.pdf
comme on peut le voir là, entourer en rouge :
C'est une manoeuvre qui ne parait pas indispensable (on ne la voit pas dans les videos) mais qui semble se faire, peut-être pour un meilleur 'rendement'.
Ces sources ont peut-être tout faux ou sont inexploitables pour un chebec (ou j'ai mal compris).
Une opinion ? 🙂
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Cool ! 🙂
Au fait, la pauv' Galeotta est toujours en manque de financement ! Seulement 3% des fonds nécessaires récoltés...
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Tu veux pas plutôt me renseigner sur la gestion des voiles d'un xebec à trois mats au largue et vent arrière, notamment en combat ? 🙂
Est-ce qu'on peut manoeuvrer à orse longue comme ça (l'antenne se rapproche de l'horizontale) ?
Ou est-ce qu'on reste à orse courte ? C'est possible à toutes les allures. Ça transforme la voile latine en quasi voile aurique. Et le jeu ne modélise que cette manoeuvre :
La pratique de l'orse longue ajouterait une belle animation au jeu !!!
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1 hour ago, jodgi said:
If War server keeps the non-OW RoE and you guys get duels I'm switching over. (I fear it would be a mostly fake feature as people aren't as brave as you lead yourselves to believe when faced with possible loss of pixels/grind-time.)
I guess the last thing players on the PvE server actually need would be newcomers calling them 'brave' or 'coward' or whatever. 😉
btw (and without connection) does 'avoiding negative impact on the peaceful pve atmosphere' mean not adding content, just like when you avoid movements to let someone sleep ? 🙂
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Le fougon (foyer, cuisine) du Requin (modélisé dans le jeu ! fermé...) :
Excellent !!! 🙂
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33 minutes ago, admin said:
Thank you for the proposal.
There are no plans to bring combat PvP to peace server. Peace server is friendly and helpful. Any form of conflict will ruin the relaxing and tranquil experience.optional AI aggressiveness wouldn't 'ruin the relaxing and tranquil experience' of a kind of players while pleasing another.
But I guess it is also a matter of dev priorities.
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8 minutes ago, Maculosa said:
Ce serait peut-être pas mal de ne pas polluer les threads de patch de Barberouge avec tes histoires de DLC "jonque, d'historique des trous à Saint Domingue et de patates douces je-ne-sais-quoi, non ?
Histoire de ne pas mélanger les genres et que ce soit plus facile de suivre les discussions sur les patchs.
En toute amitié, bien sûr.
Mea culpa. moi aussi je vais me créer un thread 🙂
9 minutes ago, Maculosa said:Au fait, tu ne m'as pas répondu...est-ce que tu joues à NA? réellement? in game?
Demande-le moi gentiment.
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16 minutes ago, Cetric de Cornusiac said:
See what has been crossed out.
Oh f... ! 😞
C'est nul.
However thx for the info.
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Ce serait peut-être pas mal de ne pas polluer les threads de patch de Barberouge avec vos histoires de clans qui s'aiment et ne s'aiment plus et ne se sont jamais aimés, de gentils suédois et de méchants je-ne-sais-quoi, non ?
Vous pourriez peut-être créer un thread type National News dans le forum français ? Intitulé peut-être "Franchouille News" ?
Histoire de ne pas mélanger les genres et que ce soit plus facile de suivre les discussions sur les patchs.
En tout amitié, bien sûr.
🙂
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Add missions (hunt and search and destroy, challenge, kill...) reserved for 9-pdr(g) / 32-pdr(c) ships (that currently belong to two separate in-game rates, 6th and 5th) : Niagara, LRQ, Hercules, Cerberus, Renommée, Pandora, Surprise.
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Ah ! new topics on Exploration in NA...
It's like the memory of a former lover whose image has never totally leave you...
Sorry, guys, for a few seconds I was back in 2016
😁
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11 minutes ago, Aerospace said:
No I can not do anything in my Snow or Nbrig, those were old days. But those ships are like 7th rate, that weak, anyway hp and broadside weight is above, read again.
I don't need to read anything to know that a 6-pdr ship (Navy Brig, 18 guns) < 9-pdr ship (LRQ, 24 guns). But you need to understand that one can't nerf a 9-pdr ship to make her a 6-pdr ship.
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^That's circular reasoning. Got it. You want to rule the seas with your Snow/Nbrig.
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Ah ? Okay. Your quote deleted.
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On 3/15/2019 at 11:07 AM, Aerospace said:
Le Req (..) strongest ship of 6th rates
Once again, LRQ shouldn't be considered in game as the strongest 6th rate but as the second weakest of the 9-pdr ships (Niagara, LRQ, Cerberus, Renommée, Pandora, Surprise) with the 'best/easiest' sailing profile (not being a square-rigger).
On 3/15/2019 at 7:52 PM, Baptiste Gallouédec said:remove carro options for le requin, case close
Case close ? You mean giving LRQ her rigorously historical armament, right ? And giving up the current in-game simple rule : 'any 9-pdr ship also gets 32-pdr carro and vice-versa'. That means a lot of mess among the armament of various in-game ships as it would also mean to give them their historical armament too, that is removing carro on La Renommée, the Cerberus, L'Hermione, etc. + removing guns on Niagara, etc. + giving Prince de Neuchâtel mainly 12-pdr carro + etc... It is like opening the Pandora box. I guess it needs a lot of thinking before to see if it is actually a good thing. Moreover, would ships without carro be useful in NA ?
As for making LRQ a 5th rate ? Would she be a good competitor to the Endymion and her 58 x 32-pdr (carro) + higher hp ?
A new 9-pdr competitor to LRG would help, but she'd certainly be a square-rigger...
A new rating system would too.
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10 hours ago, Malachi said:
Certainly not the most beautiful frigate ever built, featuring a stern only a mother could love
To say the least ! Was it deliberate ? To frighten the enemy ? 😉
or make him leave : 'Why would you capture me ?'
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French Corvette 24-gun La Créole
- historical armament : 20 30-pound carronades + 4 18-pounders
- very well documented
On 6/28/2016 at 4:04 PM, Malachi said:
Models
Contemporary
Other
http://b.rimlinger.free.fr/creole17.htm
http://www.modelships.de/La-Creole/Photos-Corvette-La-Creole.htm
Paintings
The Prince de Joinville on the poop deck of La Créole
(the ship to the left is La Créole)
Dimensions
length 38,22 m (125' 5')
breadth 9,70 m (31' 10'')
depth in hold 5,15 m (16' 10'')
draught aft 4,52 m (14' 10'')
height of battery 1,80 m (5'11'')
length-to-breadth ratio 3,94
Armament
20 30-pound carronades
4 18-pounders
Crew
166
Ships in class
La Blonde/Jeanne Hachette 1832
Sailing characteristics (for her sister-ship La Blonde)
9 1/2 - 10 knots close-hauled, 12,5 knots large, 10 knots wind on the beam. Very maneuverable, carried her sail very well and liked medium to heavy conditions, in light winds her sailing qualities were described as 'ordinary'.
Service History
Laid down 1827, launched 1829. Took part in the Battle of Vera Cruz under the command of the Prince de Joinville. Struck 1847.
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19 minutes ago, Aerospace said:
@LeBoiteux do not forget rate systems effects skillbooks.
6-7th rate skill books can be much stronger than 4-5th rate skillbooks.
All we have to do is to replace 6-7th rate skill books and 4-5th rate ones with :
- 4 to 6 pdr ship skill books
- 9-pdr ship skill books (from the Niagara up to the Surprise)
- 12 to 24-pdr frigate skill books
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9 minutes ago, Intrepido said:
3 new third rates.
Thx for the precision. 🙂
Now, fat Sols are asked to slowly leave this thread.
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26 minutes ago, pietjenoob said:
And there are more good dutch 24-36 onedeck fregates with 9 pounders
I believe you.
12 minutes ago, Zlatkowar said:Descubierta looks like a mini Bucentaure ♥ but the french ones really are ahead of the pack in terms of design...
Look at the Danish ones too (such as the Tranqvebar). They are also REALLY nice. 🙂
9 minutes ago, Intrepido said:Nah.
Devs should invest their time and money on the king of the seas. The ships that make them sell copies.
That's a matter of taste. Everyone on the forum do know yours. 🙂
They are. We'll have 3 new 1st Rates soon !
Like IRL, Sol and a small ship = not the same amount of investment !
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16 minutes ago, Teutonic said:
so on a Rvr/Port Battle scale -- Would you ever bring a fleet of 6pd shallow ships against a 9pd shallow fleet in a port battle? would you ever bring any of them?
OW pvp? with the shallow 5th rates, with the 2 DLCs, I think the 6pd 6th rates are in the worst shape balance wise. almost every player I know has tried to just skip them, because we'll never use them except to grind to the next rank for more crew - to crew bigger ships.
I'd prefer the ships be used instead of left in the dust because "we can be in bigger ships now." This is the main issue for a lot of people - Ship stats and BR still lend to always trying to get the bigger ship.
I'm ok with bigger ships being more powerful, but that should not make a smaller ship useless.
I say the Rate system is useless to classify ships in NA. There must be separate gameplay (PB/shallows-areas/missions/etc). for 6-pdrs and for 9-pdrs, iiif one wants to give a chance to 6th Rates. But who sail 6th Rates btw, huh ?
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25 minutes ago, Teutonic said:
the 6th rate line up really has some mega problems with balance and permit requirement in my opinion.
and the fact that a requin has the 2nd highest HPs AND the highest broadside weight AND a bonkers sailing profile - Why would you ever craft a 6th rate that is behind a permit :P.
EDIT: and you didn't even mention the Navy-brig/Brig - which would be close competitors against the mercury. Although, with the ships you chose I can tell there is no contest for them :(.
Reasoning in terms of '6th Rate' (ie range of number of guns without taking into account the caliber/pdr) is useless in NA.
Distinguish between :
- ships with 4/6-pdr guns or 12/24-pdr carro on one side
- ships with with 9-pdr guns or 32-pdr carro on the other
As for LRQ sailing model, she's not a square-rigger... Plus it can be fine-tuned.
Permits is another matter.
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In game :
- ships that carried 9-pdr guns IRL (such as LRQ) can also carry 32-pdr carro in game
- ships that carried 32-pdr carro IRL (such as the Niagara) can also carry 9-pdr guns in game
When watching NA shallow water lineup from the Lynx to the Surprise, a gap can be seen between the Niagara and LRQ, two ships that both carry 9-pdr guns or 32-pdr carro but don't have the same number of guns : USS Niagara (20 guns) and Le Requin (24 guns), creating a difference in broadside weight : 320 pd vs 384 pd (with carro).
My suggestion : adding a ship with an in-between broadside weight.
Here are 8 examples from NA shipyard. Don't hesitate to add more / correct me.
1) The Hvide, 24 x 9-pdr
On 10/21/2017 at 8:08 PM, Malachi said:Another danish 6th rate, the Hvide Ørn of 1797:
https://secure2.pbase.com/maritimmodellklubb/hvideornhorten
Dimensions:
length 124' (danish fod)
breadth 32' 6''
Depth in hold 16' 2''
Crew 180
24 8-pounders
2) The Descubierta (20 x 9-pdr + 2/4 x 6pdr)
On 8/29/2015 at 3:58 PM, D. Federico de Gravina y N said:Here is the History of the Spanish corvette called "Descubierta" and her twin "Atrevida"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descubierta_and_Atrevida
The ships was builded with the original armament:
• 22 x 8 lbs.
• 4 x 6 lbs.But for the expedition, only carried:
• 14 x 6 lbs.
• 2 x 4 lbs.
3) The Tranqvebar (20 x 9-pdr + 2/4 x 6-pdr)
On 4/7/2016 at 11:35 AM, Malachi said:I may have already posted the sheer plan for this one, but it lacked the details for the stern, quarter galleries and the head, so I combined the two sets so you can see how the 'complete' ship looked like.
Dimensions (imperial feet)
Length: 118' 6''
Breadth: 31' 11''
Draught aft: 14'
Draught forward: 12' 11''
Length to Breadth ratio: 3, 71
Armament
20 8-pounders
10 Falquonettes (1-pounders)
Crew
173
Other ships in class: Tranqvebar (1762), Alsen (1764), Færøe (1766)
Launched in 1774 at Friderichswaern (Norway), broken up 1793.
4) HMS Phoenix (22 x 9-pdr)
On 10/15/2017 at 2:21 PM, Sella22 said:1741 Establishment 20-Gunner
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66422.html
Class info:http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_class&id=222
Ships of the same class:
Phoenix
1743
20-24 guns
Specifications:
Length of Gundeck: 112' 6 ¾" Imperial Feet or 34.3091 metersLength of Keel: 93' 0 ¾" Imperial Feet or 28.3655 metersBreadth: 32' 3" Imperial Feet or 9.8298 metersDepth in Hold: 11' 0" Imperial FeetBurthen: 514 17⁄94 Tons BM(British Measurment)Guns(1743):Upper Deck: 20 x British 9pdr(1745):Lower Gun Deck:2 x British 9-PounderUpper Gun Deck:20 x British 9-PounderQuarterdeck:2 x British 3-PounderProposed armament:22 x 9 prd= 99bwor20 x 9 prd and 2 x 6 prd = 96 bw5) La Volage (22 x 9-pdr)
On 10/15/2017 at 11:23 PM, LeBoiteux said:La Volage
French corvette
22 guns
1795
@Wagram Lyon, The Sailing Navy List, p.248 : 'Lines and profiles as taken'
National Navy, then a privateer, then captured by the British (HMS Volage).
Historical armament :
- French service : 22 x 9-pdr or carronades (?)
- British service : 22 x 32-pdr (carronades)
Suggestion for in-game armament :
- 22 x 9-pdr (99 pdr) gap 3
- 22 x 32-pdr (carronades)
Sources :
https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=19397
6) La confiance (22 x 9-pdr ?)
On 10/15/2017 at 11:54 PM, LeBoiteux said:La Confiance
French Privateer Corvette
1796
22 guns
@wagram : Lyon, The Sailing Navy List, p.275: "Lines and profiles 'as fitted' in 1806
Built in Bordeaux.
Historical armament :
- as a French privateer : 22 x (?)
- as HMS Confiance (1805, 24 guns) : 22 x 18-pdr (carronades) + 2 x 6-pdr
Suggestion for in-game armament : 22 x 9-pdr (99 pdr) (gap 3)
Dimensions (imperial feet) : length of gundeck = 117'0" ; breadth = 31'2 7/8" ; depth in hold = 14' 0"
Notice the V-shaped hull.
Sources : https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=22705
7) Raae ( 18 x 8-pdr + 12 x 4-pdr)
On 10/16/2017 at 12:06 PM, LeBoiteux said:Raae
Danish 9-pdr frigate
30 guns
1709
Dimensions : 110 fod, 29 fod,
Crew : 140
Historical armament : 18 x 8-pdr + 12 x 4-pdr (96 pdr)
Suggestion for in-game armament (with 6-pdr replacing 4-pdr and 9-pdr replacing 8-pdr) (gap 3) :
- 18 x 9-pdr + 6 x 6-pdr (99 pdr)
- 18 x 9-pdr + 4 x 6-pdr (93 pdr)
8)Thais class (327 pounds with carro) and Cormorant revived - class (332 pounds with carro)
On 3/1/2019 at 4:15 PM, Malachi said:
It´s in german, obviously, but most of it should be self-explanatory. (K) means carronade, the (+1) is the Ranger, which was slightly longer than the rest of the Cormorant revived - class. Speaking of which, they and the Thais - class had a ridiculous broadside weight for their size, 332 pounds for the former and 327 for the latter.
And they didn´t look bad, either (that´s a draught for the Thais-class Comet)
Thx to the contributors !
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53 minutes ago, Teutonic said:
Something like an exploration system that I also would want.
Someone said 'Exploration' ?
This word regularly comes back to haunt NA forums...
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La Nouvelle-Orléans, son jazz et Katrina
in Naval Action (en français)
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C'est gentil mais, en ce qui concerne, ça va. M'en fous. Ça ne me concerne plus.