Skully

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14485-hiding-in-battle-screens-solved/?p=272573

Stop thinking about the individual ships and start thinking about the bigger picture. Did they have an advantage we could not bring? No. We lost Ruatan, because I was ganking a lone Mercury and thus stuck in the timewarp. http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14676-pvp1-june-the-british-honduras-campaign-pirate-perspective/?p=272479 Bloody crock, I should have whined until I got the invisible leave battle for free with extra speed mechanic. PS. I still want to have that craft-able Exceptional Outboard Motor!

It already works that, folks are undocked to be able to join a battle and thus visible.

Ouch, your logic is infallible. Do you like Red? Yes or No?Ah crock, you like Blue. But since everybody likes a color, they choose yes. So we'll never see blue, because the majority has chosen red. Keep'em coming Ultravis.

Hmm, that sounds actually like a great idea. I'm just not sure whether it would scale right though, it could get messy on the map. If we have it in game we could have anonymous notes, nation notes, clan notes and individual notes. Add a timeout and a limit to control spamming and voila: PvP controlled rumour system.

Hahahaha, seriously, please stop. I'll let other people judge your intelligence based on your logic of evaluating a majority vote. Should the mods lock this thread? Or just keep it going for laugh and giggles?

Me looks at votes on http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14536-to-gank-or-be-ganked-that-is-the-question/. Gasp! You are right, we have a fantastic game that a minority of people try to break with continous complaints. ROFL ... oh man ... ROFL ... no no, please stop, please ... ROFL ... my belly hurts ... ROFL

Hehe, I just never take if off. It makes no difference to my gameplay.

I do want to stress out, this is purely a marker on the in-game map when somebody is on the battlescreen. Ongoing battles and battle entry are subjects for other topics. We could tweak it with some parameters, for example: the marker will fade in after 30 seconds on battlescreen. And it'll fade out once a player goes open world.

It'll lead to us going to external chat means and blaming NA for having a rotten chat system.

This is a duplicate of http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14616-i-quit-until-you-fix-the-ganking-situation/ While I am curious as to why Ultravis came back. I think the topic can really be closed now.

I think we just blew the assertion made in the topic. Close it?

The rule is simple: anything not visible on open world is not allowed to join that battle. Make the join timer 5 minutes, then the port no-join will be 5 minutes as well. Your buddies should have been sitting on open world. Which poses zero risk, because you can dock up at will. http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14676-pvp1-june-the-british-honduras-campaign-pirate-perspective/?p=272800 "But with the Pirates getting the better position in the engagements, it meant the British were holding the waters in front of Bonacca. This left the remaining Pirate element sitting in harbor staring at their British counter-part."

June 17th, Fishing at Chinchorro Preliminaries As the light drizzle cleared on the early morning around Bonacca, the last element of the Pirates sailed south-west. Two fast Renommees were ordered to keep an eye on Ruatan. The British rear element soon following with two Mercuries and two Constitutions, docking into Ruatan. So far the British had not had much luck in their Honduras campaign and funds were running low. Supplies from Britain had still not arrived. It did mean that a full-out assault on Morro Chico would be fruitless, rather a shallow port had to be taken. With the Pirates obviously controlling the waters to the west, Utila was not really an option. Rather the British commander checked the channel east of Ruatan for passage and opted for the further away Chinchorro instead. The Race to Chinchorro As the British fleet, consisting of nine 6th rates, raced through the shallows, the two Pirate Renommees quickly gave chase. All Pirate elements were called to move to Chinchorro at best speed. At Bonocca, a Pirate element fitted for port defense set sail. Any escaping back to Bonacca was now blocked by a 4th escorted with 5ths. The Pirate main fleet, several 4ths and 5ths fitted for speed, turned north away from Utila. One-by-one the British got picked off as they tried to reach the Chinchorro shallows. Already confused by the ongoing skirmishes the islands of Turneffe were mistakenly identified as Chinchorro and the British started turning west. However the Pirate main fleet was quickly spotted. In turn the Pirates detached a fast Constitution to push the British fleet further east, while their main fleet kept on sailing north fast to close the gap. Finally the British commander found himself alone, his fleet scattered and lost at sea. The Pirate fleet quickly came over the horizon and the final net was cast onto him. Battle of Utila Meanwhile, with the Pirates out the way, the British staged a new attack on Utila from Ruatan. However not many numbers were at the ready yet, so reinforcements had to be rushed in from Bonacca. This gave the Pirates the opportunity to also reform at Bonacca and without any available escorts on either side, both sides rushed with 6th rates to Utila. The final tally at Utila was 7 Mercuries and 2 Navy Brigs for the British. This time around, the Pirates had the numbers and showed up with 7 Mercuries, 1 Navy Brig, 2 Rattle Snakes and 2 Mortar Brigs. Loses were still high on the Pirate side as 1 Mercury got captured, another 3 sunk. So did one Rattle Snake and a Navy Brig. But as the sun set, the British lost their entire fleet. Result With the straight forward assaulting Chinchorro and Utila in order, the Pirates were easily able to deliver a devastating blow to the British. As the funds have run dry on the British side, this might just be the end of their venture forth into Honduras. Addendum, The Trux Skirmish Delirious on both their recent victory and the overflowing bottles of rum, the Pirate fleet set sail back to Bonacca. Spotting an unescorted British fleet of seven 6th rates coming out of Truxillo, an equal number of Pirates broke off for engagement. Without bothering to repair, and a Mortar Brig leading the charge, they recklessly bravely dove onto the British cannonades never to be heard of again. Only a British fleet was seen late that night docking into Bonacca.

I think you should vote yes. Not because it is was you want in the end, but because it is a step in the direction you want. I also think that a vote for any form of (ongoing) battle markers will just go down on the no side, but maybe there is only one way to find out.

It still hides those who setup a battle screen intentionally.

Or it might not get even to the point of a port-battle. http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14676-pvp1-june-the-british-honduras-campaign-pirate-perspective/?p=272800 PS. We let the Trinc live to prove a point. (Ah, shit there is a self-righteous spear sticking out of my ass. )

June 16th, Control over Bonacca Preliminaries The day started with the Caribbean covered in a heavy storm. As time moved on, it looked like no ships would be capable of setting sail. But as expectantly as the storm had hit, the storm lifted and captains scrambled for their ships to prepare them for sail. Scouting elements were put to sea quickly, because the British had two potential staging points, Ruatan and Truxillo. The small chance that the British would hit Utila was quickly shoved off the table when an Ingermanland was spotted sitting in Truxillo harbor. What remained was spotting the British main fleet, so they could be dealt with. A British Cutter was dispatched from Truxillo to engage the Pirate Surprise scout, potentially disrupting any sighting of movement from either Truxillo or Ruatan. But with the south wind the Cutter could not catch up and tie the Surprise into a battle. Thus he turned back to Truxillo. Next the Ingermanland came out again to give chase to the Surprise towards Morro Chico. With no other British in sight it was a poor insignificant target, to be ignored. And when it turned it was clear that the British were not ready yet to stage the attack. Initial Engagements As the order came up to undock the Bonacca fleet, so must have the same order sounded on the British side. Side-by-side Pirates and British raced out of Bonacca. To this day it will probably remain unclear who was the first one out. With the British counting six 4ths and two 5ths versus the Pirates three 4ths and two 5ths, skirmishes erupted left and right as both sides tried to gain an advantageous engagement. But with the Pirates getting the better position in the engagements, it meant the British were holding the waters in front of Bonacca. This left the remaining Pirate element sitting in harbor staring at their British counter-part. As the ships disengaged without losses on either side, it was clear that the British had gained control of the waters around Bonacca. It was their move now. The Main Engagement While the Pirates were still unsure whether they had actually spotted the main fleet of the British or just a rear element, the British hesitated for a moment whether to move on or retreat into Bonacca. As they moved south-west away from Bonacca their hesitation convinced the Pirates that they had indeed spotted the British main fleet. Meanwhile the Pirates undocked a 3rd rate chase fleet in Bonacca, which consisted of four 3rds and a Constitution. This left the British with no other option, but to sail harder down the straight. As all Pirate elements were recalled to the Ruatan straight to make an intercept, the noose around the British fleet closed. From the south-east a Pirate Constitution and Surprise appeared through the fog. As the engagement started one Pirate 3rd had suffered too much storm damage and his rig went down before being able to engage. Another Pirate Constitution from Bonacca could not get out of the wind and thus also unable to engage. But still it turned out to be enough to give the British a severe beating. In that battle itself, the British soon focused on both the Surprise and Constitution. The Surprise was quickly forced to disengage, while the Constitution saw his side stripped and subsequently sunk. The Pirate 3rds however pounded onto the British fleet and one-by-one their ships started sinking. While the British were striking hard on one of the 3rds, the lone Ingermanland from Truxillo had already decided to abandon them to their fate. Yet the Pirate 3rd was forced to leave, but British loses were already mounting too high. In a desperate attempt the British Trincomalee managed to disengage and sail away to the south-west. With the British no more capable of taking the fight to Morro Chico, everybody was called to stand down. Result With the initial storm it was hard for both forces to properly setup their fleets and execute their respective plans. However the Pirates adapted faster and while they lost one 4th rate, it was a serious blow to the British, losing five 4ths and one 5th. Not to mention they never got close to initiating any form of assault on Morro Chico itself. As the weekend draws closer, we may potentially see bigger fleets and more varied action. Will other nations take this opportunity to snatch also at Honduras? Only time will tell.