Comandante Gómez Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 PLEASE, post only information. Thank you. This thread has the main purpose of collecting as many Spanish ships as we can and, with them, make a reference for incoming works on them for Naval Action. First of all this thread is going to be filled constantly with any ship on service for the Spanish Armada in the age of sail. No matter if ships are originally built in Spanish territory, bought from other nations or captured. Before starting this, is a real need to advice how to post the information we are going to expect from all of you, so, have a look the next points we give to you: 1. The main and official name of the ship, of course, with blue and bold font for an easy localization, including all names which that ship used in all her life with normal and blue font. Some ships, apart of the official name, had a kind of 'nickname' put by their sailors, in that case, post it in normal and blue font too. 2. The number of cannons just below the name of her, beside the year when she was launched. The number of cannons, if that information is available, must contain the distribution of cannons per deck and the caliber of that cannons. This information is a bit relative and inconstant, due to the circumstances that all us know, so, please, if it is possible, attach to this information the source you used (webpages, books, documentals, etc). 3. Plans and blueprints of the ships. This is, in my opinion, the most important information. It's a real enterprise to revive in a computer program the dimensions of a ships that was sunk many years ago, so any blueprint, plan or similar plan (including paintings, images, kit models, colours, etc) will be useful to recreate them. Is not mandatory to post a ship with her plans, but remember that no plans = probably no model will be created. And of course, attach the source of information, please. 4. And finally, a REALLY short summary of her History, including some battles or operations. Just below of this lines will be an index which will contain all your post and will be updated constantly, classified all ships in, of course, classes (1st, 2nd, 3th rates, etc). So the INDEX begins here... * Dimension and other information should be added too, as crew number. INDEX *Thanks to Cavero for a lot of useful information. First Rate Ship of the Line (100+ guns): PURÍSIMA CONCEPCIÓN - 112 guns in three decks - 1779 - Reply #10 - Page 1. Awsome! Thanks Cavero. PRÍNCIPE DE ASTURIAS - 112 guns in three decks - 1794 - Reply #3 - Page 1. (+1 detailed picture bow in high definition of the ship directly from the Spanish Armada Webpage) REAL FELIPE - 114 guns in three decks - 1732 - Reply #10 - Page 1. Thanks Wind. REINA LUISA - 112 guns in three decks - 1791 - Reply #6 - Page 1. Second Rate Ship of the Line (90-94 guns): Third Rate Ship of the Line (60-80 guns): GENERIC TYPE - NAVÍO (no plans) - 74 guns - 1797 - Reply #17 - Page 1. Thanks Wind. GENERIC TYPE - NAVÍO (no plans) - 64 guns - ? - Reply #13 - Page 1. Thanks Wind. GLORIOSO - 70 guns in two decks - 1740 - Reply #2 - Page 1. MONTAÑÉS - 74 guns in two decks -1794 - Reply #4 - Page 1. (+1 high definition plan of the ship in Reply #5) NEPTUNO - 80 guns in two decks - 1795 - Reply #9 - Page 1. Thanks Latouche. Fourth Rate Ship of the Line (50-60 guns): GENERIC TYPE - NAVÍO (no plans) - 58 guns - ? - Reply #13 - Page 1. Thanks Wind. Fifth Rate Ship of the Line (20-40 guns): GENERIC TYPE - SPANISH FRIGATE - 22 guns - ? - Reply #18 - Page 1. Awsome! Thanks Wind. DIANA - 34 guns in a single deck - 1792 - Reply #14 - Page 1. Awsome! Thanks Wind. SANTA LEOCADIA - 34 guns in a single deck - 1777 - Reply #12 - Page 1. Thanks Mirones. SANTA MARGARITA - 34 guns in a single deck - 1772 - Reply #8 - Page 1. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Gómez Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 GLORIOSO (Nuestra Señora de Belén) 70 guns in two decks ship of the line - 1740 - La Habana 28 guns in the first deck (24lb); 30 in the second deck (18lb); other 10 guns in the stern casstle (8 or 6 lb) plus 2 stern guns (?)*. (http://www.todoababor.es/listado/navio-glorioso.htm) Even though its a 74 ship of the line plan, Glorioso has practically the same shapes. History: The Glorioso was one of the most emblematic ships of the Royal Spanish Armada, protagonist of the Voyage of the Glorioso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_Glorioso) *(?) Don't know which caliber had both stern guns. Please, investigate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Gómez Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 PRÍNCIPE DE ASTURIAS (Los Santos Reyes) 112 guns in three decks - 1794 - La Habana 30 guns in the first deck (36lb); 32 guns in the second deck (24lb); 30 guns in the third deck (12lb); 14 guns in the stern casstle (8 or 6 lb); 6 guns in the bow casstle (8 or 6 lb). Source: http://www.todoababor.es/vida_barcos/navprinpast.htm Click here to see the inside of the ship with an animation. http://www.todoababor.es/vida_barcos/navprincipeasturias/min_vent_animacion.htm More pictures and colours here: http://www.modelismonaval.com/galeria2/trafalgar/canalronpasturias.htm http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%ADncipe_de_Asturias_(1794) History: She participated on Battle of Trafalgar and survived from it. She was wearing the heraldic of Federico Gravina during Trafalgar. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Montañes (Santo Toribio de Mogrobejo) First deck: 28 de 24 lbs.Second deck: 28 de 18 lbs.Stern casstle: 10 de 8 lbs. Bow casstle: 6 de 8 lbs Trafalgar battle: First deck: 28 de 36 lbs Second deck: 30 de 18 lbsStern casstle: 8 de 8 lbsBow casstle: 10 carronades de 30 lbs http://forum.game-la...ps-of-the-line/ Deck and bow plans of the spanish ship Montañes: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Connor Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Montañes Plan for this ship 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Gómez Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 REINA LUISA (Reina María Luisa. After 1809 named Fernando VII) 112 guns in three decks - 1791 - Ferrol (Spain) 30 guns in the first deck (36lb); 32 guns in the second deck (24lb); 30 guns in the third deck (12lb); 14 guns in the stern casstle (8 or 6 lb); 6 guns in the bow casstle (8 or 6 lb). Source: http://www.todoababor.es/listado/navio-reinamarialuisa.htm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 New photo about the bow of the spanish ship Principe de Asturias by Spanish Navy Web 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Gómez Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 SANTA MARGARITA (HMS Santa Margarita since 1796) 34 guns in a single deck frigate - 1772 - Ferrol (Spain). Caliber of guns: (?) We are investigating now. The capture of Santa Dorotea. Practically a same frigate. Same class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatoucheTréville Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 NEPTUNO 80 guns of 1795 built in Ferrol Crew: 797 men L:60.9m l:16.4m Depth: 8m 30x36 lbs 32x24 lbs 12x12 lbs 10 obusier x 36lbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Purísima Concepción Twin( San José) 112 guns in three decks ship of the line - 1779 - El Ferrol Guns First deck: 32 de 36 lbs.Second deck: 30 de 24 lbs. Third deck: 30 de 12lbsStern casstle and Bow casstle: 18 de 8 lbs Measures L: 59,4 m I: 16,12m W: 2.771,5 tons Crew 1.098 Info Spanish: http://www.todoababor.es/listado/navio-purisimaconcepcion.htm English: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2643 Photos, draws, plans,etc... Purísima Concepción Paintjob of the Purísima Concepción´s ship in the battle of the Cape St Vincent 1797 Plan of bow and stern of a 112 guns spanish ship of line Purisima Concepción ship´s plans San José Paintjob of the San José´s ship in the battle of the Cape St Vincent 1797 And after the battle when she was captured with several damages San José plans 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Real Felipe Nominal Guns 114 Nationality Spain Operator Armada Real Launched 1732 How acquired Purpose built Shipyard Guarnizo Designed by Antonio Gaztanneta Constructor Cipriano Autran Category First Rate Ship Type Ship of the Line Broken Up 1750 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 less bricks more nice frigates please :3 Santa Leocadia 1777 34gun 5th rate Launched 24/26 march 1777 by El Ferrol Shipyards 26x12lb 8x6lb notes: first coopered vessel in the spanish navy Frigate Captain D. Francisco Javvier de Winthuyssen was wounded in action losing an arm still looking for plans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ship type - Navio 64 guns Ship type - Navio 58 guns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Diana The frigate Diana was launched on the 10th of March 1792. It formed part of the series of frigates known as "Mahonesas", as they had been built in the city of Mahón. Thanks to its design, it could sail faster than its predecessors. It took part in the war against France along the Catalan coast although, during the war of Independence, its base was in Cadiz. As a member of the naval forces of Havana, it took part in battles against the corsairs in the Antilles and made various trips across the Atlantic. It was broken up in 1833 in the naval shipyard of Cartagena. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://prints.rmg.co.uk/art/491800/unnamed-spanish-64-gun-two-dekcer-no-date Royal Museum in Greenwich with some other unnamed spanish shipplans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://prints.rmg.co.uk/art/491800/unnamed-spanish-64-gun-two-dekcer-no-date Royal Museum in Greenwich with some other unnamed spanish shipplans Definitely in the Spanish ship list that I have posted above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ship type - Navio 74 guns 1797 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Spanish Frigate 22 Canons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Real Felipe Nominal Guns 114 Nationality Spain Operator Armada Real Launched 1732 How acquired Purpose built Shipyard Guarnizo Designed by Antonio Gaztanneta Constructor Cipriano Autran Category First Rate Ship Type Ship of the Line Broken Up 1750 New Information The first and the second deck: 24lbs guns Crew : 1152 New plans and draws Combat in Cap Sicie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdguy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 San Fernando Spanish 62 guns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatoucheTréville Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 NUESTRA SENORA DE LA SOLEDAD Fifth rate frigate of 34 guns built in 1788 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=13059 http://www.todoababor.es/datos_docum/fragata-mercedes.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devante del Nero Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I really like the Navio, it looks sleek and powerful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonAguirre Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Hi Guys: I'm that JMLVQZ who made the 3D model of the HCM Montañes that is inluded in this list. Its been quite a nice surprise finding my drawings here. Thanks for your comments. About the ship: .... Lord Nelson said the first time he saw the ship ... "My God, she manouvers as a frigate but fights as a First rated" Kind regards Edited April 1, 2015 by IonAguirre 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 22gun Frigate circa 1750 by Jorge Juan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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