Lord Roberts
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IMO capped ships should not be used in PBs, only crafted ships should be allowed to fight in PBs.
that does not fix anything, makes things more complicated, means you can not take captured player ships into Port Battles, what if someone took a victory or sant from a player but can't use in PB because of this rule you want.
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Next people are going to ask for all AI fleets to be removed.
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Britain Nation Meeting
Sons of Britain will be holding a Britain Nation Meeting to discuss what our ambitions and the future of the nation is. The meeting time is 6:00 CST on Saturday the 19th.
Please contact me for the teamspeak information, thank you.
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Now gimme my hammocks back.
I still have your traders snow and const
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"the Pirates and the Brits is what's killing the game: grinding their way up to higher ranks and then simply showing up with so many numbers and so much weight that you can't fight them."
I suggest you go read a bit more Arsilon, you seem to have no idea what you are talking about.
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This thread really has nothing to do with Sons of Britain. No one is complaining about the fact you've chosen to grind. No one is complaining you are rolling port battles at this point. This thread has nothing to do with you. What it has to do with is whether or not how various parties have chosen to play is healthy for the game in the long run. What this thread is about is whether or not the mechanics in game and how various nations/clans/individuals have chosen to use them is impacting their ability to maintain interest in the game and can encourage an environment of fun for players that have been around for a while as well as any new ones that come along.
Somehow you think comments here are specific attacks on you and your clan when instead its people questioning whether the path you've chosen is in the long run best interest of the game. Instead of getting defensive and claiming that other people are too lazy to go grind so they can drive as big ships as you, the question really should be, was the grind fun? Do you think it would be fun for other people? Not that they should just suck it up and go do it. By doing it is that really what the game should be about?
What does it mean for a new player joining the game now? What happens to a new player that wants to play Spain or Denmark? Is this the path that we should be encouraging or will we end up losing players faster than we can add them?
Check your ego at the door for a second since this isn't about you. Its about play styles and game mechanics you may have chosen to use and therefore are an example that can be pointed to. But it really has nothing to do with you specifically or your clan.
It's a general attack on Britain and thus an attack on Sob too because we are apart of Britain and its largest clan.
The grind was fun for a lot of people, it allowed us to get good ships to use in PVP, without the AI fleets to grind what would this game be? it would be hundreds of players going after low levels and traders and the enemy constantly running and hiding in ports... if this game has no AI fleets it would lose even more people than it already is.
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This thread has become ridiculous, with our British players now the subject of derision because what? We enjoy playing the game? We're now the bad guys for logging on, having a good time, and training up our lower ranks against AI fleets?
You're all just desperately looking for a scapegoat, I don't think it's productive to frame more dedicated players as what's wrong with the game. Power imbalances are ubiquitous in MMOs until players hit the level cap, which will happen soon.
I would have quit this game long ago if all there was to do was to gank traders/ lone noobs. Like I said in my previous post, we have no PVP around Jamaica -- the capturing of ports more distant to Jamaica is just an attempt to move a front line closer to the PVP.
So what are the solutions proposed here? Gank our players then run and play dock games, or complain we brought too much force to bear on those harassing our forces? Stop fighting AI fleets (the only thing that gives our casual players reliable content when they long in)? Cool... Sounds like a lot of fun...
The game needs mechanisms to provide good PVP content to players, I agree. Perhaps this could be achieved with instances popping up on the map. Something like 'Beached Treasure Ship [small]' to give the lower tier players something to fight over. Something like King of the Hill with a passive gold income for being inside the circle.
One thing you don't need to worry about is Britain gong the way of the Pirates (many of whom didn't quit, but joined France and Sweden) we have a really solid base of players who are passionate about the game, the age of sail, and crushing other factions under our bootheel. Don't rely on those factors changing any time soon.
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Hey guys if i also complain, cry about bullshit and hate on Britain can I also have likes?
Yes they did. I am not blaming you. It's an arms race. OMG are working towards the same thing and even the Swedes. Everyone will eventually have to do this on every pvp server. Even on the OS the only ships we would see now are third rates and Trincomelees. I suspect that is mostly because the Tricoms can chase or it would just be all third rates.
If I seem angry I am angry at the game. I had such high hopes for it. We're only one month in and the pixel carribean is already filled with more third rates that the real world ever saw. Next month it's going to be Victory's. That's a PVE grind I'm just not willing to do. At the brig and frig level the game is awesome. At the rate ship level it's a second PVE job. Just picture what new players joining the game next month would see ahead of them to RVR. Most of them will just turn away. That grind is not healthy for the game or even in real life.
My suggestion, new players need to be RVR viable in their second week of game play. Currently we're drifting far far away from this. I think the ratio of shallow ports to deep should much higher to increase the relevance of shallow ports to give new players more opportunity. Rate ships should somehow be more rare and likely not achievable through NPC grinding. Maybe some kind of award from the government for pvp service or something. But they need to be more rare or they simply dominate the arms race and it becomes a necessity to RVR. Probably should also be another captains rank between Tricom and 3rd rate. That BR jump is just to huge and seems to make the Connie somewhat useless.
On a side note you said "French are to lazy to grind up to the ships they need". You call not doing that grind lazy. I call it not getting a divorce and losing the house and kids. Please pull your head out of your butt before you go saying things like that.Not my fault people are married and have kids MATE, I was smart enough not to do those things and now look at all the free time I have... stop complaining.
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Sons of Britain and Britain itself now has its first Rear Admiral
Admiral Roberts of his Majesty's Royal Navy
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It is more a case of false advertisement, if current advantage in the PvP2 server is weighted towards those that pve. We just want the pvp server to remain as such. If the server is to remain as it is, then the title of the server should be altered to reflect its milder status.
Change it to PVP/PVE simple as that, though having only PVP and no PVE is a dumb idea and would be boring as it takes hours to get anywhere for a fight, just bring back sea trials.
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This is the "real" solution. Chasing around and punishing people for using the current, Alpha, unfinished system corner cases is quite frankly a serious waste of developer time.
It probably "feels" good from a "I got justice" point of view, but ultimately its chasing tails and a far less productive use of valuable developer time than writing the code that closes the loop holes. If the loop hole is being exploited and ruining the game for a large number of people, well now you have a new priority on what to fix.
You lock the door, you don't hire a cop 24/7 to sit around waiting for people to open your unlocked door an steal your stuff. You also don't use a $5,000 safe to protect your $3 toilet paper.
Devs should not have to be cops, especially in an Alpha/EA title, and as "exploits" go, this one is minor and simply annoying.
So what you are saying is that the devs should ignore and leave the broken game mechanics that people are abusing because its not that important in the big picture? okay mate...
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We grind PVE Fleets so we can get in better ships to PVP and guess what it works, if you don't want to PVE because you think it's silly then don't do it, just don't fucking tell others how to play and then complain about it because you are not grinding fleets.
What we are doing is part of the game, intended content, we are not exploiting or abusing anything, you guys can do it to, so go out there and do the same instead of crying on the forums each time someone better than you hurts you.
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As far as I am aware you become a Pirate when you do over a damage threshold to a friendly player?
Also this can easily be done by pulling in your enemy at maximum range so that they can never catch you in the battle. If someone does not want to be caught with the current mechanics they can always use them to get away.
mate if you look at my original post it's about pirates able to attack each other over and over to avoid combat, you are complaining that other nations can do that but that is simply not true.
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As usual everyone seems to be trying to put blame on the Pirates for this. Quite frankly it is starting to get humerous.
I have seen National players abusing the system in very similar ways so perhaps its time to get down off your high horse and we can come to a reasonable solution?
What stops National players from also doing this? As far as I am aware if neither of the attacks each other neither will turn Pirate?
uuuuuuummm please tell me how other nations can also abuse this system? cause from what I know if we attack each other we turn pirate...
This is not an exploit, and if you request this to be taken away then Pirates will lose their uniqueness. I quite like being a Pirate. I would like to hear some suggestions on how to fix this that don't sound a lot like: "Don't let Pirates attack each other, its not fair!"
the thing is pirates are not that unique as you would think they are, want to know what makes them different than other nations? 2 things, can attack each other and can't enter neutral ports.... THAT IS IT, they are just another nation and it's completely broken... pirates can even call reinforcements hahahaha.
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No man, Slamz is right. I was almost there at that battle and listened to all the short length of it. That battle was over so fast many of us couldn't even sail to it from Visquez. As soon as the towers went down the >2-1 starting BR instantly ended the fight. You knew it was going to go that way and its why you set it up as such. It guaranteed a win without a fight and is the epitomy of zerging. If that is what you want you got it. I am not going grind NPC's until my eyes bleed to play that game. Take all the ports you want they are yours for the taking with no actual game play to be had by anyone. What your doing is not PVP and didn't require any skills beyond math.
I was actually in the battle myself and the french had some big ships, bigger than some of the Brits and guess what the french did? they ran from their own towers and were very unorganized. The French have the same numbers as the brits due to the pirates joining them and swedes helping too. Don't blame others because the french are too lazy to get better ships, the game is not going to be always fair and the devs won't give you an advantage because you cry on the forums each time you guys are destroyed in battle.
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don't chase pirates?
wooooow great idea man, that makes the PVP even better for everyone involved because we should not chase pirates because they can abuse a broken system, don't comment without a good reason please.
I tho pirates don't get exp for attacking each other?
That's not the point i am making mate, if you read what I was saying i said they are abusing/exploiting the fact they can attack each other to avoid combat, not to get xp from each other. read.
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Really? All these ships for 2 poor pirates?
Did they do any damage farming? Even if they tag each other you still can sink one and after that another.
maybe they was just testing they ships for speed? pirates does that a lot. Unless its against the rules to even tag each other for pirates.
oh look making excuses..
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Yeah so 2 pirates came down to haiti to look for PVP and when people turned up to attack them they decided to attack each other to avoid combat, they did this over and over again and just now they left the game... this is a clear exploit of the game, this needs to be fixed.
The 2 GUN members are the pirates, we joined to take a picture and have a word with them.
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So not surprising to anyone really but Pirates are coming down to haiti to gank low levels and when people turn up to attack them they attack each other to avoid PVP and then stay in loot screen... you guys complain that we avoid combat and yet you guys do this.. nice exploiting.
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France is still remarkably healthy and I will go out on a limb and say it's because we have been one of the most focused "actual PvP" teams.
Not trying to be political here, just not sure of another way to put it, but what we've seen of the Pirates and the Brits is what's killing the game: grinding their way up to higher ranks and then simply showing up with so many numbers and so much weight that you can't fight them. The irony is that it kills the game for them more than for the people they "fight".
I have to imagine a lot of the pirates really did get bored out of the game. They grinded their way to high level ships (boring!) and then finally went on the attack only to discover that we left our port battles undefended because there was literally no point in trying -- they were too high level and too numerous.
And last night was another perfect example. The Brits attacked Fredericksted with over 10,000 BR -- average BR for them was about 450. French actually showed up with 21 defenders but only about 5000 BR -- sorry, but that's really the best we can do at our rank. So the Brits quickly killed the towers and won. It could have been a great fight, 25 v 21, but the Brits literally leveled their way out of PvP. I have to imagine that was a pretty boring night for them, capping off a pretty boring month. (I don't think anyone sunk on either side. It was over that fast. I was hitting a 3rd rate with no armor and the fight ended faster than his ship could fill with water.)
Meanwhile, we still spend a lot of time hunting on the OS (this, in fact, is why we are lower level) and can generally find people to pick off. So we're losing PvT port battles but getting a lot of open sea PvP. That keeps us entertained while our enemies are literally boring themselves out of the game.
There's a lot of fault we can place on the game design here that we could talk about, but the players share a lot of blame here as well.
Grind -> grind -> grind -> grind -> show up for port battles that nobody else can even fight you in -> quit.
Open world PvP -> awesome fun -> everyone still playing after 30 days but you can't defend ports.
Pick one.
wait you are upset because we brits got better ships than you? and that we don't PVP but you then say we do and that you guys got destroyed, it's part of the game mate, don't like it? leave.
Stop having a sook because there are better people our there than you, go grind so that you can use a better ship in PVP like the Brits have done.
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oh look pirates complaining once again at how unfair the game is for them... really? you are PIRATES it's meant to be tough and for you to have a hard time.
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Now watch as the pirates team up to claim this reward, why we can't have an actual bounty system because of exploiting.
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been said time and time again and yet it is never addressed and probably won't see anything new to do with the clan for months if not years sadly.
Devs have stated they won't add clan warehouse/bank because people can scam it.... yeah that makes literally 0 sense not to add it for that reason, might as well not have trading if going by that logic.
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dumbest scene of the entire series.... 2 frigates somehow destroy the victory with 1 broadside.... okay
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Friend in a pickle and I don't mean the ship.
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