Fishyfish

I checked the 1920 map aganist the 1940 map as there were some big changes historically, none happened. A side note it took 22 minutes to load a 1940 campaign.. Anyways here's some brief notes. 1920: In Europe the baltic states are independent, which is kinda correct - a lot of wars of independence going on as they fight aganist the red hoard pouring out of the east. Ukraine was independent in 1920, as it was in the middle of it's war of independence, Poland too has recently broken away with the Posnanian War of 1918-1919. so Europe looks semi-okay. However Central Asia is a major incorrect mess, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan shouldn't exist yet as they're represented. There should be the Kara-Kirghiz Autonomous Oblast, the Bukharan People's Soviet Republic, Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, and the Khorezm Peoples Soviet Republic. All of which came into being between 1918 and roughly 1924. I'm going to assume with the earlier start dates none of the preexisting countries like the Emirate of Bukhara are represented. Further south Kashmir shouldn't be independent. And lol, much to my surprise I find that Pakistan and Bangladesh exist too independent of the Raj, which itself is just India. Woops. That's a No. A later jump to 1940 shows that Manchuko/The Empire of Great Manchuria doesn't exist, as Japan annexed Manchuria in 1932 although only El Salvador ever acknowledged it as it's own country (mostly as a big F-U to the US who in turn had refused to acknowledge the new fascist regime in El Salvador as legitimate). Also Ukraine is independent, and not the Ukranian SSR which, unfortunately came into being when the earlier mentioned war of independence was lost. So yeah I'm of the opinion that the devs are just using a current day map for the world map. Look, if any of you devs are reading this I'm happy to lend you what ever information you want on the historical nations and their borders that existed in the early part of the 20th century, as a whole boat load came and went in the time period of this game. I'm pretty well versed in mess that was the interwar period just shake me really hard. On a completely unrelated note, have any of our Russian/Eastren European friends here watched any soviet ostren movies? I rather enjoyed White Sun of the Desert Белое солнце пустыни, despite it being kinda hokey. Do you guys have any other recommendations? The Soviet Conquest of Central Asia and the Basmachi Rebellion are really interesting and I love foreign movies. Андрей Арсеньевич Тарковский might be one of my favorite directors, even though he never made any Ostrens.

I'm not sure I completely understand you, my apologies. I can do English and some Mandarin, but Russian? To google translate I go. I haven't taken an deep look at the European side of the map. I suspect that maybe the devs have used a modern map to represent the in game map, I'm kinda a historical map fanatic. I'll load up a few campaigns and check some things and get back to you with what I find.

Actually my theory of the devs Kowtowing to the CCP is supported by the fact that China owns Tibet during the game. Tibet broke away from china during the Xinhai revolution and was only reannexed by the CCP during the 1950s. It was an independent country from 1911 through 1951. Any mention of an independent Tibet is strictly forbidden in the current day CCP. Please, Pleeeease @Nick Thomadisaddress this simple issue and make China what it should be.

This actually is a huge historical inaccuracy. One that really tweaks me given how long I've studied this time period in Chinas history. Time for a brief lesson, keep in mind this is a gross oversimplification, and please devs, take note. Qing China in 1911 was replaced with the Beiyang Republic following the Xinhai revolution, this government is not a communist power, the early Chinese Communist Party is still well in it's infancy during this time,( little more than groups in universities and the like) The Beiyang Government is a Federal Parliamentary Republic founded under President Sun Yat Sen using the following flag. This flag should be the flag of china from 1911 to 1928 Long story short, this government falls apart pretty baddly. During the Xinhai revolution, a deal was cut with the leader of the Beiyang Army (Beiyang meaning literally northren ocean) a man named Yuan Shikai which would see him given the first presedency of the republic if said Beiyang Army would side with the rebels aganist the Qing. At the time of the Xinhai revolution, China had multiple different regional armies, and the Beiyang Army was the most modern and westren in the country. Yuan Shikai forced the Qing royal family to step down, thus preventing excessive and drawn out bloodshed and Sun in turn would step down and hand the presidency over to Yuan Shikai. The deal however was that he was to move the capital away from Bijing and away from his regional power source (the aformentioned Beiyang Army) to Nanjing, which was heavily under the influence of the Tongmenghui, the nationalist secret society who Sun had created to bring about changing China into a Republic. It's at this point I want to note the these Nationalists aren't the same kind of extreme Nationalists in say, Nazi Germany. These are Nationalists whose goal is simply to build a modren, democratic Chinese Nation. Anyways Yuan Shikai screws it all up when in 1916 he dissolves parliament, rewrites the constitution and crowns himself the new Emperor of china. This sparks the National Protection War, and the new Chinese Empire, (which has it's own flag, but it's not really that important here) lasts about 80 days, Yuan abdicates and then died. This however caused a lot of things, way to many for me to get into right now, but it resulted into China fracturing into multiple Warlord Cliques, all vying for power and dominance in China, but none powerful enough to fully unify China under their dictatorial control. Effectively which ever warlord controlled Beijing was the warlord the rest of the world considered to be the defacto leader of the country, and the big man on top that they would officially do all sorts of international deals with. (spoilers, they did all sorts of deals with other warlords anyways, ya know, gun running, smuggling, etc) It's a really interesting time in chinese history, full of warlords and civil wars and general unrest. I highly reccomend anyone reading up on the "Warlord Era." But effectivly from 1916 to 1926 China is a mess, with upwards of 50+ cliques all squabbling and infighting for the rightful leadership of the country as a whole. In 1926 a rival government, the Kuomingtang, a party more in line with Sun's original teachings and a direct offspring of the Tongmenghui crops up in the south of China, at the time a combination that including the Chinese Communist Party. The KMT under the leadership of Chiang Kai-Shek launch a war to drive out the Warlords and unify China, and by 1928 has more or less have done so; by directly controlling about half of the country and having the remaining warlords swear loyalty and obedience to the Nationalist Government in Nanjing. It is during this time that the Nationalists and Communists split (when Nanjing is taken from it's local warlord, communist troops go on a rampage attacking foreign extra territorial concessions and foreigners alike, and Chiang, fearing an intervention from the treaty nations which would end his bid to unify the country, tries to purge the communist element in the KMT), and the Civil War between the two starts. They would only kinda unify again during the War of Resistance, when Japan invades later in the 30s. The Nationalists have this flag, which should be the flag of China from 1928 through the end of the game. The eagle eyed among you may note that is the flag of Taiwan. Well yes, that's because Taiwan is the Republic of China, and they only fled to the island in 1949 when the CCP took full control of the mainland, and technically the two are still in a civil war. With the timeline laid out in this game of 1890 through 1940, there should be No Communist China period. I suspect that the only reason the devs have done this is because they can't sell this game in China if that above flag is present, or any true history of a KMT ruled china is alluded to. Tl;dr there should be No Communist China. A side note, goddang it took 12 minutes to load a campaign.

What's up with that Republic of China flag? It looks like a bad PLA Navy flag knock off. Other than that, I'm really excited to jump into this! Hulls I've been waiting for since I started playing!

With just about every "new" hull I played with this happened with all parts. Towers, guns, stacks, they mount in the air above the hull as seen, that is the part clicked into place. Also major audio error of two perhaps three instances of the background music playing over each other. Just updated to the most recent beta. "New hulls" See lots of copy paste.

Reminds me of the japanese owned, french built protected cruiser matsushima, which had a singular chonky 13in gun in a rear facing turret. I kinda like how this ship looks.

Aaahh, now, that's more like it. However, it seems a bunch of parts are broken or don't fit on any of these hulls. Most of the towers, guns conflict with each other and don't like specific angles. But none the less, top notch work on the new old hulls! Have a cookie, on me! Very nice, very nice indeed.

Huh, what, where am I? When am I? (what am I? oh right) *sniff sniff* do I smell new pre-dreadnought hulls??!??!? Boy oh boy, let's put down the booze filled eggnog and figure out how to activate this on steam and take a peek! Christmas came early and I didn't notice it!

I so rarely peek into these forums these days, I wouldn't doubt that I forget threads. That and too many bonks on the head. I can dig it though, I really can. I'm finally getting around to fixing my desktop, so I'll actually get a chance to play again and see what the last.. 2? 3? patches brought with my own eyes.

We desperately need some of them, ahem, "old boaghts" if that's how you pronounce it. 😉 I have multiple resources availed if you ever need them, Janes books and the like. Just give me a ping or a DM or what ever and I'll photo or scan pages for you. If you can somehow coerce the devs to give me some goddang hulls like the USS Maine AC1 I will eat my fin.

Nice to meet you! Keep up the good work.

Ah good one of the two paid shills is talking out a hole in their backside again. So let me get this straight, if you're a closed beta tester you get full right to be a condensending jackass to people? Two of those closed beta testers are absolutely worthless, one I think quite highly of despite their terminal animuu affliction, and the rest I don't think I've ever seen comment.

Dead.

Track down a post or two I made in their "blah blah + off topic" thread.