neph Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 A recent update let you ctrl-place barbettes and superstructure elements arbitrarily. That's amazing. There's still some limitations on hulls (mount/mount 2 errors) which predate this update that seem arbitrarily restrictive. I'm going to use this thread to document them as I encounter them. I have no claims to thoroughness! While I understand that amount limitations are probably balance decisions, I'm going to document them anyways just in case. Starting us off: the French Dreadnought II. Would very much like to do a Wyoming-esque AB-PQ-XY arrangment. Cannot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoricalAccuracyMan Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 There's lots of gun arrangements and such that can't be recreated or used due to the limitations of the ship designer. The Wyoming style gun layout is one of the ones that is particularly hard to do. The majority of us have been nagging the devs about this for a while now...they've done good so far though, but some of the gun layouts are down to the superstructure options. Take the Atlanta class of light cruisers with their triple super-firing turrets...it can't be done in game because of the limitations of the ship designer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Battlecruiser 1: barbette placement is very restricted on the stern, less so but still somewhat on the bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) More issues with Battlecruiser hulls; very restrictive, hard to get a good design on the back of this elevated deck. Edited September 20, 2021 by neph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Long Dreadnought. Oddly, the secondary tower placement is much more free than the primary! Barbettes are very annoying, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) Modernized Dreadnought: Note that I could place it "behind" that larger stern barbette (which is actually turned backwards right now). Why is that barbette turned around? Because... when I try to place it normally... I can't fit a gun between it and the secondary barbette. Why not just make there be more space? Because of another stupid mount 2 barbette error! Why not just redesign the whole thing & put it all in the bow & use one of those nifty compact secondary superstructures? Because of a mount 2 error for the primary superstructure. This hull has layers. Edited September 21, 2021 by neph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 Mount 2 prevents a Nelson on the russian modern BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 More issues with Russian modern BB preventing a nice balanced superduperfiring setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalminer Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just wanna drop by and say cheers for keeping up with the bug hunting over the past few months despite the (by now rather standard) silence from the devs. I hope they've atleast seen this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 15 hours ago, coalminer said: Just wanna drop by and say cheers for keeping up with the bug hunting over the past few months despite the (by now rather standard) silence from the devs. I hope they've atleast seen this. Thanks! No worries at all re: the devs--I've been there done that & it's hard work. I just hope to give them a resource that'll hopefully make their work much easier & faster when they get around to this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 Battlecruiser V, British. Wildly useless forward barbette placements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 Austro-Hungarian Modern Battleship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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neph Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 Japanese Modern Battlecruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Modernized Dreadnought II Japan. This one's really annoying https://imgur.com/ZmDouY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somhairle Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I'm not sure if this is the only issue, but 16" guns won't fit on a Medium Barbette, IIRC. They require the Standard or larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 only for medium I barbettes. french dreadnought III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightraven1901 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Wow, very concise folks. Full support: I want complete barbette placement freedom- no limits ever for any reason barring "it physically won't fit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neph Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 Another annoying one on the new British Dread V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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