Sju Sjösjuka Sjömän

Why were you engaged then? If you were there with a white flag to calm things down..?

Howcome he was battling then..? We were sure that Kungliga Flottan and the rest of the swedish fleet could handle the danish attack. Me and my fellow friends were hunting french in the south as all went down, when they launched their attack we made a quick call, return the agression. While you were defending that, we sunk ganking french and captured a danish port. Your point again, sorry?

Were you one of the 9-10 french who attacked a snow a few days ago? Me sailing it? I had 9 drunk friends tailing me. I remember it was french and a good fight, you lost because of our long cannons if I remember right. And yes, ggwp's were called out. Fun and good pvp, nothing else. Either way, I'm happy to see the support from a french too and I thank you for your very good comment.

As a history nerd, ofcourse I want to "rewrite" history and battle in the age of sails?! And Scania is important for the same reason. That was the area Sweden and Denmark mostly fought over.

Thank you.

My bad. :s

Well. I don't know. We've done one port battle only to mu knowledge, and that was a offensive one. I can however say that in fair fights versus multiple diffrent nations (BR and ship count) we've got a quite nice statistic regarding engaged fights. Statistics as in captured and sunk enemy ships and fkriendly ships lost one way or another. Regarding what the larger clans are doing, I honestly don't know. I see more danish and french player fleets than swedish player fleets, way more. I am sure they do something but what exactly is for me unkown.

Ofcourse I understand that they might not be happy with my ways and the ways of DRUNK, but all I ask is what you said. Respect what we want. We dont want your approval, just not to be flamed publicly in the ingame chatt and the forums. So, tldr, I like you.

World of Warcraft, free..? I'm sorry but I believe you've mixed things up. World of Warcraft costs about £6 for the vanilla game, then it's ranging from £10 to £50 for each expansion, plus a monthly fee of £10 to actually play the game. Held almost 18.000.000 players in 2010 I believe.

Though, griefing always fall down under a rule being broken. And I am aware that Kungliga Flottan isnt the only clan, but it is the clan that has the most self given authority. It is also the clan who I see is, I don't want to say problem because they aint that.. They hold most of the players who I see as unsportman like and unable to see and respect the free will and thoughts of others. You don't have to agree with us. You don't have to help us. You don't have to like us. You don't have to talk with or about us. But you do have to respect us. Not because we're players. Not because we're a clan. Not because we're flying the swedish flag. Not because we're playing Naval Action. Because we are people, just like you. Untill the day that I see a official thread made that states the full authority of one or multiple clans, I will not hear your "orders". So yes, I fully agree with you. Untill you understand this fact there is no need to argue further.

Nationalistic? I believe you missed out on the two parts where I stated that I've studied history. Denmark and Sweden has almost been in more wars with eachother than I can count, both on land and the sea.

Griefing? Please do explain because I fail to see how DRUNK is griefing. As stated multiple times, Kungliga Flottan has no real official authority to command and brand clans and/or players. Yet this is done and as you do not get things your way, you feel the need to try and make the game developers to force move your "problem", this "griefing" clan and players, to another faction when they havent done anything wrong? Even mods on the forums have already stated that you do not have any authority and it was moved from the tribunal because of the face that Kungliga Flottan is in the wrong.

Bad idea since that restrains people. Nor is it very fair to all the other players.

Hail Game Labs, and everyone else reading this open letter. Introduction: I'll start of by talking a little about myself and explain the reason for this open letter. I'm a former notorious healer for one of the largest Rated Battleground and World Player versus Player guilds in the game World of Warcraft. I feel safe to say that most of you don't know about the gigantic drama and hostility within the World PvP community in WoW, and I was a very active person in trying to settle things down and make the community into something better. To give you a basic understanding of the seriousness, there was multiple cross-nation police cases regarding threaths, stalking and even real life assault, because of most leaders and officers of the larger and some of the smaller guilds. I am now writing a open letter here regarding RNoN and DRUNK because eventhough the PvP community on EU PvP One isnt remotely close to what the World PvP community in World of Warcraft is, I still feel the need to try and calm things down. The letter itself: I bought this game not long ago after seeing some YouTube footage. The footage contained a french fleet of 20 ships battling another fleet, a british one with 20 ships aswell. I bought the game, installed it, took of my pants and shirt, filled my bottle of water, locked my door and sat down. I quickly realized I could be flying the swedish flag and as a swedish citizen and former history student, I instantly selected Sweden. Now, I live in the very southern region of Sweden called Scania, and it's right next to Denmark. This ofcourse means that I, once again former history student, got a urge to sink danish ships. I selected EU PvP One. EU PvP One, EU PvP One, PvP. Only a week or two after I got the game, there was a decleration made between Sweden and Denmark-Norway. This decleration was made by the "authority" of two clans on each side. Kungliga Flottan (KF) and Holy Roman Empire (HRE) were the ones who spoke on behalf of Sweden in this matter. Now I am a member of the, if I may say, known clan DRUNK. The clan was, to my understanding, created because of this exact decleration and because of the fact that I did not want to follow the decleration and keep sinking danish ships, I joined them. Why? It was the only swedish privateer clan and still is, and privateering under a swedish flag is what I desire to do. So what we have is two large clans in Sweden who claims to have full authority and control over the faction, without ties to the game developers nor any official statements from the game developers granting them this authority. However, Kungliga Flottan (KF) believes they have the power to lable DRUNK as traitors here, on the official forums, and make a tirbunal request to force move DRUNK to the nation of pirates. I have to strongly question these actions and ask the game developers if this really is what they want? Allowing certain clans to enforce, atleast attempt to, authority and rule a faction without your approval, allowing them to report and demand things simply because they do not agree with the thoughts of others, eventhough these "others" havent done a single thing wrong nor broken any rule in the game? Every day I see people trash talk DRUNK on a quite severe level simply because they don't believe in our ideas and thoughts of how things should be. I've never uttered a single bad word towards anyone, on the other hand I've tried my very best to be humble and polite in every discussion I've been in, yet I've been called almost everything between heaven and hell already with only few weeks worth of playtime. This is once again something I have to question, if the game developers agrees to their ways of expressing themselves about DRUNK in the global swedish chatt? One quick note is that I havent personally seen any member of DRUNK verbally abusing anyone else, however I am aware that one member recently had a chatt restriction. So to answer a question before it even comes; No, I do not deny that other members of DRUNK may or may not have been verbaly abusive themselves. I'd like to round of by quoting two parts of the thread where DRUNK got labled as traitors by Kungliga Flottan (KF). "it has come to my attention that a Rogue naval unit of the Swedish Navy has broken my explicit orders to respect our signed cease fire with the Danish Nation, by attacking and capturing completely undefended Danish Harbours." - King Gustavus Adolphus, 10.27 PM 28'th of March 2016 (Original Post in "DRUNK - Accused of Treason") "Exactly, DRUNK should show their true colors and raise the flag of their master rather than fielding a flag which they do not have the best intentions for." - Zehtuka, 10.42 PM 28'th of March 2016 (Comment in "DRUNK - Accused of Treason") So once again, "King" Gustavus Adolphus claims to have full authority over the faction and command any player within it to do as he please. As said before, without any official statement that gives them this authority that they believe they have. Zehtuka also strongly gives his thoughts about their authority by labling themselves as the "masters" of Sweden. I do not believe that I have to express my thoughts about this at alll as it's very obvious. I'd like to round up by mentioning a few more things. As the player Jordun bought and placed the flag to attack Fort Baai (Danish-Norweigan port) the swedish global chatt got spammed for a good 45 minutes, if not more, untill a game moderator by the name of Tomms came in and stated that verbal abuse was not going to be accepted. I'd like to personally thank you Tomms for taking this mans side and defending him from the enormus hate that he recieved. I'd also like to point out the irony that the leader of the main Danish-Norweigan clan, Herminator, was seen in the attack they launched versus Oranje (I believe it was Oranje atleast). His pressence was even called out by the moderator Mirones that also happily redecorated his cabin. This battle started before DRUNK launched their attack, so my question is.. Who did truely break the treaty when it comes to clans? Jordun was a apparently clan less, that could have been solved by diplomacy easily, but Herminator still made the call to engage a Swedish port? Lastly, I'd like to ask everyone who reads this and thinks about commenting to please follow the rules and guide lines of this forum. I really shouldnt have to ask everyone to do so but I believe this open letter might stirr some emotions and we all say things we shouldnt when we're upset. TL;DR: You don't have to agree with us. You don't have to help us. You don't have to like us. You don't have to talk with or about us. But you do have to respect us. Not because we're players. Not because we're a clan. Not because we're flying the swedish flag. Not because we're playing Naval Action. Because we are people, just like you. Untill the day that I see a official thread made that states the full or even partial authority of one or multiple clans over Sweden as a faction, I will not even hear your "orders". Yours truely, Sju Sjösjuka Sjömän, Privateer of Sweden (DRUNK). To the community: In this thread I adress the problems I encounter as a member of DRUNK, as a privateer of the swedish fleet and Sweden. If I intended to cause drama with this post, I'd write a topic that I would lable as a "shitpost" and throw shit in every single direction I could. But I didn't. I made this post in the hopes that a new fresh face expressing his thoughts and feelings perhaps could make a change, perhaps could make us all in Sweden and maybe even players from other nations sit down in this thread and talk. Talk as in discuss in a calm, mature and positive way with the goal to achieve a change for a better community. There has been multiple good comments, some I agree with and some I disagree with but that's human nature. We cannot all agree with the same thing. I honestly don't know why I'm writing this new paragraph, what I am to say with it.. I guess it's simply a cry to everyone to please set everything aside and help eachother. We're supposed to be the most evolved animal on this planet, can we please act like it?