Lytse Pier
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... meanwhile in Willemstad
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Awesome thread. Will read again.
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6 hours ago, Celtiberofrog said:
SUGGESTION for Factions Embassies:
In order to include some kind of Faction diplomacy, (in the current fresh RVR history)
Do you think it is possible that every Faction would chose 1 player as a "messenger",
The list of official Faction messengers would be publicly disclosed here.
Each Faction messenger could simply write PM's (in this forum) to each other Faction messengers for any required purpose.
Such a communication between Factions would mostly have the role to find compromise, agreement, commitment, trades, etc...
This basic diplomacy can only work if Faction clans are capable to chose & trust the messenger as the Faction voice, and of course make sure that Faction clans will respect possible agreements negociated with other Faction(s).
most probably, each Faction would rely on their strongest clans leaders to federate their Faction other clans to select a "messenger player" to build up relationship with other Factions through communications between different "messengers" in the list.
The messenger does not take any decision, he'll be just reporting messages of his Faction.(he's not a diplomat, only Faction voice).
It's quite easy to set up, War server would only need 11 messengers (unless Pirates do not or cannot bother) that can exchange PM's
Any results or actions outcoming from messengers network can remain privacy of Factions or can be publicly disclosed in the War forum RVR news.
Although I appreciate your efforts to provide "someone to shoot", this messenger could as well be a pigeon. He/she has nothing to add what can be distilled from an amalgamation of opinions and alternate facts from other players that would like to be active as a spokeperson of some sorts and claim to have a foundation in the playerbase to warrant such a vocal activity. Be it a clan-offical, a represenative of the common traders or even a community-clown for that matter, just like me.
With shifting clan-powers also within a faction and a good portion of the playerbase not even clan-related, it will be hard, if not impossible to speak from unity. As much I like the idea the for nations within this game, it is nothing more than "we wave the same flag, so we like eachother" and we can paint a map with little flag-like dotsIn fact, RvR is for many a restriction to play this game from a sometimes preferred Clan V Clan perspective. Within the Dutch nation SNOW, DAS or X cannot shoot those moronic captains of CABAL for example. Eventhough we warrant such aggressive actions with every forumpost I make.
So, tldr, appointing someone to hand a message in the name of a nation is moot unless such van be done from unity. The game does not create unity on nation-level with, for example, common national goals. We therefore only create just one more item to squable about as a nation. ;-)Love this game though!
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11 minutes ago, Lytse Pier said:
We have an important unoffical statement to make about what we think is happening in the RvR sandbox from the Dutch perspective:
We are angry with the Russians to call the rum "just funny tasting vodka";
We are angry with the Pirates for stealing the rum;
We are angry with the Swedes that they used the good rum in their traditional "Glogg";
We are angry with the Americans for selling the rum too cheap due to capitalism kicking in;
We are angry with the Danes for using some kind of Dwarven Runes on the labels to mislead us into thinking there was no rum;
We are angry with the Spanish for serving rum in small cups to "better fit the tapas-style";
We are angry with the Polish for drinking *all* the rum;
We are angry with the French for just drinking wine and not any rum at all
And finally we are angry with the Prussians for being German;So, there you have it. A lot to be angry about. 😉
It's all about rum and drunk fleets! Have fun guys!
And we are angry at the British because we keep forgetting them (because of the rum).
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We have an important unoffical statement to make about what we think is happening in the RvR sandbox from the Dutch perspective:
We are angry with the Russians to call the rum "just funny tasting vodka";
We are angry with the Pirates for stealing the rum;
We are angry with the Swedes that they used the good rum in their traditional "Glogg";
We are angry with the Americans for selling the rum too cheap due to capitalism kicking in;
We are angry with the Danes for using some kind of Dwarven Runes on the labels to mislead us into thinking there was no rum;
We are angry with the Spanish for serving rum in small cups to "better fit the tapas-style";
We are angry with the Polish for drinking *all* the rum;
We are angry with the French for just drinking wine and not any rum at all
And finally we are angry with the Prussians for being German;So, there you have it. A lot to be angry about. 😉
It's all about rum and drunk fleets! Have fun guys!
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I believe the whole paradigm comes down to fear. The deperate fear to hold on just a little bit longer, and see if some "Deus ex Machina" should make itself apparent.
An absolute gem, my compliments!
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Early access is a bitch, we all have to deal with it. Developers, admins, testers and players alike. So,
stopkeep whining you all.
This game is great value for money as it is already. It just needs to be finished and finished is when the developers says it is with the content it wants to have in their game.
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I had an terrible dream last night sailing on my trusty frigate "Welgevaren":
-Sir, the French are here with at least fifty ships!
-Bring me my red shirt!
-Red shirt? Why?
-So you won't despair when I get wounded in battle and keep on fighting 't ill the end.
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Two days later ....
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-Sir, Lord Vicious is here!
-Bring me my brown pants!
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P.S.: from now on all my crews clothes are pink with yellow dots.
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40 US = Pretty sure it's 1 US guy and 39 of brogsitter's Alts.
Hahahaha. Most likely.
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Pellasgos, to win or loose a war, one has to fight it, I agree. However, if one party calls it quits does the other party automatically win? Jeheil, if one party declares a win does the other party automatically lose?
Discussions like this are, like Jeheil suggested in his answers, mere biased opinions and, if I may add, the result of the game mechanics not providing good win conditions yet within the new alliance / war mechanics we needed to test. Admin, I hope you guys are willing to look into this mechanic a bit in the future/ before release to provide a win condition of some sorts within the mechanics; I find threads like these and those threads before, ample sources of community test results on the new mechanics, to warrant me suggesting such a win-condition feature.
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- French lost one war that was the "black friday war" (dutch gives back 4 ports to french)
- Dutch lost second war what lead to Antilles treaty ( french give back 6 ports to dutch)
- who cares about the thirs one?
We must be living in alternate realities, Kierrip. ????????
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Omg Kierrip, you are killing me with your logic. ????????????????????????
You certainly don't need obfuscation to get a wrong message across. ????
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Fun fact spain and france will never ever make peace with brits cause the bad bad brits fought spain down to 5 ports back in february/march. Sweden switched sides for balancing and 5 nations felt the need to make even worse things any nation could ever do but danes they are known to completely want to defeat a nation. They were scared about an even fight 4 vs 4. I told sveno this will happen and he didn't listen.
Although Sweden switched sides, they continued the fight against the pirates and avoided to join the gangbang around the southern fronts.
It is something I hold in great regard and respect. o7.
Danes came along to have fun fights as they were found around our coasts, something I won't hold against them and is what I would have done of I was in their position.
The Spanish were badly hurt by our support of the British during our campaign against the Pirates with the Swedes and still had an old score to settle by our Venezualan campaign from the early game last year. No wonder they went after us, and they were right employing this tactic with the US not being able to hurt them much and the French having a hard time against our fleet around Pampatar. Good strategy on their part and they are the true victors of this great war.
The French, well, this was the third war between the Dutch and the French already. Although both sides were always courteous and friendly in constructive peacetalks and treaties earlier, the relationship always stayed "spirited" between our nations. As much as we had respect for each other, we also knew that we were great communities that could give each other about an equal fight as you could find in Naval Action. If in winning (French lost the first two wars) the third time is a charm, I'd say: three is also the magic number to get one Dutch Lion down on one knee. I hope we will fight a more balanced war in the future again, messieurs!
Apart then from Pellasgos going into berserker mode to stirr up the Dutch spirit, that about sums it up for me.
Hope you all had a good time and we'll meet in the next round!
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Whatever it was what we did, we did it with confidence knowing we'd be facing victory or defeat and either way we all got what we wanted, and that despite the shitty game mechanics that are (thankfully) soon obsolete.
There is no denying that we all have butter on our heads and are walking in the sun (if you are not familiar with this saying: http://www.kiffingish.com/2005/09/butter-on-your-head.html).
Reading this thread learns me a lot, not about the game, not about the mechanics and how shitty they were, but about *you*. And I am thankful to you for allowing me this knowledge.
See ya around.
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Hear, hear Konali,
I mentioned in another thread that the vocal few make it a hobby of filling these forums with walls of misspelled text containing even less truth than a mediocre politician's speech on a county market during a rainy Sunday afternoon, so I doubt I want to see the line up in the debate you mentioned.
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When more people start judging a playerbase not by the vocal few that make it a hobby of filling these forums with walls of misspelled text containing even less truth then a mediocre politicians speech on a county market during a rainy Sunday afternoon, posts like yours might be less biased perhaps.Well I personally believe the dutch had it coming.. And the brits + the americans.. The three admirals treaty basically reduced the spanish faction to a shell of a faction - showing no respect for their player base and no respect for the game.
As the game is in EA the player base is extremely small and one porting or reducing the other factions to underlings is simply bullying. In the case of the three admirals treaty it was even the two largest factions ingame (with the tiny americans in tow) that ganked one of the smallest factions ingame (playerbase). When something like that happens it really only reduces the whole game for everyone.. So I consider the one porting of the Dutch (And I'd love to see the same happen to the brits and the americans but alas! It may not be possible before the wipe) to be a leason in humility, and one that is only acceptable due to the coming port wipe, and I hope everyone thinks a bit about keeping the game fun for everyone in the future.. I don't mind going to davey jones.. I definately don't mind sending someone else to davey jones. But I do mind if the game gets too unbalanced so it favours one side too strongly.
And every1 should read this lesson in fair play and respect for your opponent (who provides half the fun after all):
I can say with no doubt that I wouldn't be able to be so gracious in victory against an opponent who showed me so little respect as was present in the three admirals treaty.
The French and Spanish are tenacious opponents, their average captain performs well above mediocrity. They live for the fight, as our own Dutch captains do and proved successfully in earlier wars this year.
The pressure of our enemies proved enough past weeks to bring the best and the worst in our Nation, but whatever is the case, one cannot say it was not fun, exciting, shocking and entertaining to fight us.
This is why we *all* like this game.
Friends, foes, I salute you. O7
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So the Danes simply took Pampatar?
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just interim diplo?
Yes, it was easier to officially name these three persons "interim diplomats" than to name the rest of the nation "not an interim diplomat".
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Man, its a lovely day outside.
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For those that wanted to see unity in the Dutch Nation I hereby have an important announcement:
The Dutch High Council unanimously agrees that we nerf the French Cavalry first!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_the_Dutch_fleet_at_Den_Helder
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Zut Alor, Alle oop!
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A trader's workflow is like... "click click click, sail"
A freebooter's workflow is like.... "sail, click click click"
Two players, two different perspectives.
Flotilla hunting and sweeping (gank) is a different subject all together. The sweep attack whatever is on its way and whatever numbers.
True mail that shows Heth is not a carebear.
It's click,click, sail for a real trader. Optimizing comes naturally to the true carebear and it's always one click less. ????
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Santa Marta
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... badly wounded I set my parrot on straight and peek from underneath my eyepatch .... "Man, that was some cannonfire!" ... "Man the guns and tighten that top yard! ....
... erhmm, [looks a bit confused]
.... we are still roleplaying, right?