Draymoor
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2 hours ago, Sir Loorkon said:
Please change the mechanic for leveling up the ship knowledge. We should level for ship rates and not for single ship types. So e.g. leveling the Endymion should include leveling ship knowledge for every other 5th rate.
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Would go a long way to making a lot of vets much more accepting of the xp wipe and also would spare new potential players of a mindless ship exp grind.
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29 minutes ago, Barbancourt said:
Books should be removed as well. We won't have knowledge slots to put them in anyway.
Then I guess we should not get any upgrade drops when we sink ships if we don't have any ships to put them on. *Logic*
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20 minutes ago, staun said:
You don't know that. @admin said that. But as we know now. It only goes until he changes his mind. So until the day the game is released we don't know anything. Until yesterday I thought xp would stay.
Atm books are staying. Better for you?
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1 hour ago, jacques de molay said:
No everything is gone with the Wind
No, books already learned are staying.
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Just now, Neads O'Tune said:
Why should they exactly? Did everyone demand a refund when the Herc and Requin stopped being the OP line ship killers that they once were when originally sold to everyone?
Have they changed The forger or Admiralty Connections or Flags DLC in anyway that makes them no longer the product that was sold?
In what way does a Wipe at reset which was ALWAYS going to be a possibility affect people's use of DLC?
The is a massive warning on the game store page that the game is subject to change. It's simple, do not buy into a early access if you are not prepared to put up all that is involved.
I guess you wouldn't mind it if they simply closed the game without warning either. I mean it's subject to change at any time.
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6 minutes ago, admin said:
Most guarantees are shorter than 3 years. This promise was made in 2015, we expected to release in the end of 2016. Sorry but promising veterans advantage on launch so close to release seems like a very bad idea.
That not the problem, you already guaranteed it. You made a mistake announcing wrong information which wasn't in 2015. It was LAST YEAR. People were asking months ago and you confirmed it was guaranteed. You could start by admitting you made an error and compensate players' time you wasted.
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8 minutes ago, Powderhorn said:
This is not "getting off on a technicality." This is simply explaining how language works. I don't mind that people are upset. Most of those posts can stand. However, I will not allow this propagandistic redefinition of a word to stand simply so players can abuse it and feel like they have some moral high ground.
People are upset about a wipe. Fair enough. They should explain why. If that sways the developers, fair enough. If it does not, fair enough.
Saying it is 100% sure to happen then going back on it, makes the first a lie. Maybe he did not mean to lie, but that doesn't make it not a lie. It isn't meant to be taken personal but simply a fact of what happened. Regardless, the issue is people still wasted their time on the game base on the information given, still devs don't seem to be considering that at all.
You're focusing on the wrong aspect of the issue, upset people don't act like they aren't upset. You're basically saying it's okay to be mad but not okay to act like you're mad. It doesn't make sense. The issue is of the devs making, don't put the blame on players for the consequences. -
49 minutes ago, ꓷꓤꓯꓵꓨNꓯꓥ said:
Did I mention that this is an Excellent idea?
I think so.
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3 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:
I once told my six year old that we were going to the movies. Then I got called in to work and couldn't take her. I had to explain that I didn't lie to her (she was crying), but that something had caused a change in plans. I feel like im having that conversation again...
Comparing apples to oranges. One is personal, the other is professional or should I say unprofessional.
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2 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:
I don't agree that this is the case. Yes, they said earlier that xp would be safe, but a business decision to re-assess and change the path is not vindictive.
If it wasn't 100% set in stone then they should not have said it was 'guaranteed''. Seems pretty simple to me. It is also a business decision to give bad information to customers and that has consequences for any product sold anywhere in any form.
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1 minute ago, Angus MacDuff said:
Yes. Spent my life in the military. We don't allow tantrums, lol
This isn't the military though is it? People paid for this and put their time on it. Personally I prefer to not allow being lied to and mislead, seems worse to me.
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1 minute ago, Henry Durnin said:
Sure I am not justifying their actions... but ruining other peoples gameplay over it... the neewbies are the last ones who you can blame for some miscommunication?
Well admins are ruining it for the vet players are they not? those players are only taking the avenue that is available to them. After all admins are giving priority to these new players over the vet playerbase. So it's admin choice to favor new players that is creating the issue imo.
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Some people I think are missing the point. Full wipe isn't the issue, but the fact that it was guaranteed to not happen. If they said full wipe from the start, there would be no outrage or least they could've said they didn't know or could NOT guarantee it. I mean if you buy ANY product, imagine the manufacturer going back on the guarantee after they sold it to you?
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2 minutes ago, admin said:
we indeed said it. But then we also added - expect the worst in the same post
Keeping books = the best of all evils.Maybe you should look up the definition of 'guaranteed'?
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1 minute ago, admin said:
i saw how 3 players leveled up an impossible nation alt in less than a week in pvp - live on stream (definitely in less than 2 weeks)
Taking one small group of players as an example doesn't represent the majority.
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1 minute ago, admin said:
There is no lie here, wake up.
We wanted to keep XP (upfront), then we spend time and saw where it will lead you we changed that decision (also telling you upfront). Both decisions were true.But if new players buy a new shiny game they dont want to see first rates commandeered by vets against them. I know you understand this
You should understand that because of what you already said was GUARANTEED many players have spent countless hours grinding ship exp. There needs to be compensation for all that wasted time and effort. One ship can take dozens of hrs of game time to max out.
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To plenty of people it took them 2 or even 3 months to max their rank. That was with the old system where you could easily find battle. So no, it's not 2 weeks for max rank. Not every player plays 10 hours a day. Much less when they have to redo shit they already did.
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6 minutes ago, admin said:
yep you can say developers decided to let EVERYONE have a clean start on release, just like all MMO's do
new players consider this review positive even if it is negative.Devs lie to their playerbase and promise things they don't deliver isn't positive, wake up. Maybe you shouldn't have told people things without knowing huh?
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We better receive some PRETTY DAMN good compensation if exp gets reset. As you said it was 'guaranteed' to be kept. Or I guess prepare yourselves for a massive flow of refunds.
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1 minute ago, van der Decken said:
To everyone complaining about XP and Knowledge wipes I ask: Is it not enough that we are getting a special ship and special paints and game experience? Why must we retain all our XP and have such an enormous advantage over the hordes of newbies that will join the game at release? Just curious...sure it's a grind, but at least we'd all be on the same level field as anyone new coming to the game.
No, it isn't enough. Specially when it was already promised otherwise and many people have been grinding their ship exp in the past months because of that.
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Uh, immediate issue arises. How many players will actually want to play between those annoying as hello kitty multiple wipes, specially if they are resetting exp? I mean the test bed has had a max number of players of what? 20?
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FR0GS
We are a new french clan, we are a casual PvE and PvP small group. We are looking for more members to expand our activities.
We are looking for players that speak english. But we have a couple of players who speak german as well and also spanish. But basic english is a must, even if it's bad it's okay. We are a french clan for players that don’t speak french.
We don’t run our clan too seriously or with any big requirements. We try to keep things fun and enjoy the game with our fellow froggies.
If are you are in need of assistance as a newer player, we can help you become a proud strong member of the baguette nation. We can help in the form of game tips or providing some ships, we don’t carry people though. Some of our members have bad backs as it is!
We have simple rules!
Pay attention!!
Have good components!
Please hold the line!!!
If you’re interested you can contact us in game. You can contact me, our senior commander Lasagne ‘Ferdinand de Lasalle’, our glorious leader always on the hunt for lady-men chevaliers ‘Vlaxie’ or our diplomat the shit talking little prince ‘BotaQ’
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Another issue I've seen is sometimes random goods drop at random ports, instead of at the ports where they are supposed to drop.
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The real question here is why would a Hercules need help against a trader's Snow.
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Exciting times ahead - pre-release wipes information
in News Announcements & Important discussions
Posted · Edited by Draymoor
I think most of us understand the reasons for wipe, I even argued for full wipe but was told it didn't make sense and would be pointless to do it by @admin himself. I think most of the backlash and drama could have been easily avoided if the announcement included an apology for being unable to maintain the previous statements and a commitment to make it up to the testers. An offer any sort of compensation that is adequate for it and the community of players would feel much less in need to complain and argue.
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