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Ok was funny.
Lolwut? Why are you even posting here?
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I would agree with Stephen on this.
The simple fact is that the treaty is very well defined and it allows open ocean pvp without restriction. If this is something the Spanish can't tolerate than they should open up negotiations with their treaty partners in order to amend it. I must admit I was quite surprised that the treaty didn't contain a prohibition against screening or intercepting PB fleets as that was a request of the Spanish in our previous treaty. But what is going on in their waters right now is not the fault of the Brits or the Dutch and their honor and integrity shouldn't be impugned because of the Spanish failure to negotiate those terms. Assumptions about treaties don't trump the words of those treaties and it is for this reason that the treaty was posted in the first place for the rest of us to see.
As for the ports you ask for... Your request is unreasonable and shows your lack of interest in any kind of truce so we have no reason to discuss this anymore here. First, you didn't want to include us in the 3 admiral treaty. Second, you ignored our attempts to talk with you (Celtiboro Frog needs to be replaced imho. He is horrible at communication.), At a point of decline in our war, you demanded gain and not just gain but gain against ports that our two nations had agreed belonged to us before you started this war. All of this shows your disinterest in a treaty and that is fine with me. I think we are relatively evenly matched which makes for a fun fight.
I concur that it is a fun war, but at the same time you have folks like Alex SD going on in Global Chat about how "I'm tired of fighting Mericanos."
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I totally agree with your concerns, this was not meant to be what this treaty was about.
I too would not be silent on the matter and as you can see, am not silent on the matter. I wont agree to having a proxy nation assist in taking ports on the Spanish mainland, directly contradicts what the treaty was meant for.
I guess we will have to wait to see what the Nations Councils say, but this is one British Captain that doesn't agree with the port screening for the purpose of taking ports in the treaty specified areas.
Your concerns are legitimate and totally valid.
Please don't get my wrong however, as per our alliances we will defend ports that are attacked when able, but yes, we should not be assisting in the taking of ports from the Spanish. We can argue the diplomacy patch is out soon and none of it will matter...but it still does as trust and player interactions are still key to the game.
Hopefully light comes to the matter soon.
Regards,
Ravenburg.
If you can't support us, then why would GB and America be allied? Both the British and the Dutch Councils made it clear that, despite this treaty, the United States would not be left alone to fend for itself against Spain and the Pirates. Players will be players; they cannot be controlled. Anyone can randomly pull a flag or screen a port.
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You dont offerered anything.
We offered for you to keep Cayo de Sal and La Anguilla with us retaining control of Cayo Vacas and Las Tortugas. This is exceedingly fair, as it secures a clean border and protects both nation's interests. We would, of course, return Cuyo and Baja if you were to accept the deal.
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Comeon guys, this isn't promoting national unity. No need for these bounties.
It's all funny, but I agree.
Also, can you correct my name? The K is uppercase.
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Lol, your 9/10 times hiding in PvE missions. Will be easy money if they find you hiding
The sad thing is I don't do many missions, maybe 3 or 4 a week, if that.
Most of the time that I'm on, I'm doing port battles, clan management, or some form of Diplo. I'm at work most of the day, and can only stay up so late, so I only have about 4-5 hours of play time each night.
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Bounty on Erickillah head 2 times 1 mil for all nations beside US. Dont care if you gank him or not.
make a screenie as proof
so EASY money
//Blackbeard
I've been waiting a long time for a bounty. Who would have thought that leading a port battle would have gotten me a bounty. I was expecting SORRY or maybe the Spanish to do it, but nope, it was an American.
I'll also pay out an additional 250k for each kill up to two kills for any non-US player who claims the bounty. I look forward to the fights!
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Again -- it is the PURE BROKENESS of the pirates. that faction is so freakin OP it aint funny. and its killing the game. Maybe that will change with the allegiance patch .. doubt it.
Beat a horse enough times, and it will lay down --- sad but that is what has happened to too many US players -- constant onslaught by 2+ nations, with no other nation contributing to counter it ... and eventually people get tired of being the punch-monkey. Coupled with the stupid crap Pirate v Pirate (get out of battle free card)...yeah .. almost made me go pirate -- but I still have my dignity. (bout all I have, lol)
The pirates can be beat. Check out the PVP1 map. They held 120-140 ports total at one point; the entire Bahamas, US Eastern Seaboard up to Charleston, north side of Hispaniola, part of Cuba, the entire Gulf, and Central America down to Panama. They were pushed back to three ports the other day. Sure, the pirates have an advantage, but they are not as bad as you make them out to be.
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Yup we had mort and about 25 regular players logging in tops and britian and US teamed up and camped us night and day.
Funny there was no complaints then. Same goes for pvp1. Shame the devs fix problems that dont exist.
To be fair, it's not nearly as bad on PVP1, We have more players and each nation exists; no nation has been pushed back to 1 port. Yes, "oh my look at the pirates", but then again the pirates did the same thing on PVP1 that the US did on PVP2, so we're just as pissed at them as you are at the US on PVP2. Also, pirates aren't a nation, so we don't extend them the same mercy that we offer nationals. They've really gone and started actually privateering, like they're supposed to, which I really quite enjoy.
Anyways, we've been making peace deals to ensure that factions aren't wiped off the map to preserve the player base. It would appear that PVP2 USA doesn't care.
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Welcome to the US on PVP1 in April and May. Be glad they can't zerg 1st rates in every Port Battle like our attackers did. Though, I will admit, it was more because the leader of one big clan was angry at us, not because we pissed off a lot of people.
Getting hit hard is part of the game. The United States on PVP2 is over extended, undermanned, and uncoordinated. I will admit, it sucks to lose a lot of ports, but that's not really faulty mechanics; it's flaws within your community. They are more organized, they are better equipped, and they have the manpower during your timer window.
A spirited defense will halt an attack like that in its tracks.
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I am going to be perfectly honest. I personally think Sorry would let us take back the port in the end, if we would have agreed to their ultimatum. But we have no interest in:
1) Being manipulated and intimidated by so called "friends" and
2) Having the Swedish nation burned to the ground and replaced with pirates right next door to our home waters
We would much rather see a thriving pirate faction in Haiti, near their own home waters. This is off course wishful thinking, in the current situation of the game where they are at war with every conceivable piece of wood that floats on the seas. Which is a shame, which makes it even more puzzling why they decided to take this route and decide to declare war on the only Nation left which have friendly(ish) feelings towards them. But I'll let Lord Vicious explain that one, I am sure he has an explanation.
As to the second point, I've explained to my fellow Danish players why I am against this. Which I have some pretty good reasons for, but won't go into detail here. Most of us are pretty unified in this conflict against the Sorry clan, despite our present history.
As we haven't held a session regarding this, I can't speak for the US Nation or US Congress, but I suspect I will be setting up an outpost in La Mona shortly. I am a firm believer of the thinking that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," and I am eager to see what fun this war will create.
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My two cents on the whole deal:
Overall I like this idea. I figured it would take a while to capture ports with the proposed new system.
In regards to the other points:
Capturable Capitals: Based on my experiences as a US nation player, which has been driven to its capital twice in recent memory, I feel this is a very bad idea. Countries can easily come back from a string of hard hitting PBs. A group like what SORRY used to be, having demoralized a country, could theoretically sweep a country of its ports in a very short period of time, as they did to us, even with mechanics changes. This would leave players scrambling, unable to prepare properly to fight, and then they find themselves having lost their capital, forced to utterly capitulate. Based on what happened to the the playerbase of the US nation during both of the times we were pushed back to Charleston, the game as a whole would heavily suffer from such an arrangement. The objective should be making it harder to wipe a country off the map, not easier.
Total Victory: This should be only achievable if one country conquers or allies every nation in the game. Otherwise it'd just be frustrating. Being an RvR driven player myself, watching the map reset every time a small country like Denmark or Sweden got pushed back to their capital would be exceptionally frustrating, and would drive me from the game. I really like the way it is now, where the balance of power shifts and territory gradually changes hands. Don't rock the boat, y'know?
Not only this, but I have no idea how this would even work with outposts, resources, etc... The only way I could possibly see this working would be to do a full server wipe of ships, resources, blue prints, port ownership, etc... Also, to be frank, the economy is really stagnant and boring. This would make it even less fun to handle economy, as it'd likely break a more dynamic economy system.
Free ports:
So long as each region has a free port, I don't see the need to move them.
Missions:
I like this idea. Get the carebears out of their corner.
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Well. If the general position of the USA players are the same, then War. No problem with that. Anyway, IMHO, when the three most populated factions on the server (British, Dutch and USA), all of them allied against the spanish, i think their intention is very clear, kick us from the server and play without us. Must be the spanish trust in the "good intentions" of the other factions? In this moment i cannot trust also in reach a agreement.
Not at all. Before this mess, all we wanted was to be Spain's friend and possibly an ally. The only reason Spain are/were at war with three factions is because Spain back-stabbed and betrayed every one of those nations.
The thing that drives me crazy is all these people from the Spanish rank and file who just want to end the war for a bit. Yet, when we attempt to bring about such a peace, the Spanish are not willing to compromise, or in most cases, even talk to us. If you want peace, then force your "leaders" to listen to you and sue for peace.
You are dreaming.
For once we agree on something.
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And for your short time memory you tried to destroy US with your allied pirates and captured all ports at south and west florida. And you really blame them for attacking ports near your capital?
THIS! THIS SUMS THE SITUATION UP PERFECTLY! We attacked ports near your capital with the express intention of showing you that the United States will not stand by idly as it is betrayed and back-stabbed by a nation it had spent months currying favor to, to improve relations. We have no intentions of actually keeping those ports. If it secures peace so that Spain can rebuild and be healthy when the diplo patch rolls around, I bet we would be more than happy to return them.
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After conquering ports near our capital the US is willing to talk, would you imagine the terms?
The Dutch came in aid of the British because several enemy ports where very close to Kingston. We are trying to get some area secured for our players, why the british can and we cant?
The terms we have offered you, time and time again, are the following: We keep Cayo Vacas and Las Tortugas, you keep La Anguilla and Cayo del Sal, and we'd return Carahatas as well. This seems exceedingly fair to me. Not sure about you.
We have made this offer time and time again, yet we are faced with a stern "we are not willing to speak with the United States at this time" or an unyielding "give us Tortugas and Vacas". We have offered a fair compromise, yet the irrational Spanish refuse to accept even that.
We are told by the Spanish that Las Tortugas and Cayo Vacas are too close to the Spanish mainland, but Islamorada and Mimbres are as close, if not closer, than those two ports (around 10-12 minutes sail at 19 kts). Not only that, but Cayo Vacas is a short distance from our ports (think less than 5 minutes at 9 kts), cuts off our supply line between the West and East Coast of Florida, and cuts us off from the free port of Key West. This is clearly unacceptable. We would be ceding the losing party in the war a serious strategic advantage, which is absurd.
hay mates, can you explain to me how this fits well with the defensive pact with US. If I am not mistaken you will be compelled to help US against Spain since they are at war and take each other ports (BTW the war was declared by US, so - for sake of precision - actually there was no act of aggression on the side of Spain).
I resent this. Hostilities began when Spain violated their territorial agreement with the United States after taking the West Coast of Florida. We had a longstanding agreement, not unlike our current borders. Spain broke that agreement and took rightful American ports lost temporarily to the pirate menace.
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Good to see this finally formalized. Nothing new, but this is long overdue.
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A fun story. Silly French.
In regards to your quote; I don't think running up the French ensign upside down really is going to do much. Maybe the royal French ensign (Vive le Roi!), but not the Revolutionary/Napoleonic French ensign.
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THURSTON BEERS and his tactical wrong choices in Nuevitas: He wanted to lure us in the bay for allow 6 dutch in bellonas/pavel to join in, then he made mistake to tag us, bringing in npc who filled the slots not allowing the Dutch squad to enter the battle behind us (on paper was a good idea, sandwitch us in a bay.. the tactical execution was LOL ) In my opinion even with dutch in they would have lost badly, cause their fleet was inside against wind so we would have been able to fight the 6 dutch 25 vs 6 way before the USA could give them any help.
If I may say a few things about Neuvitas:
- The damn NPCs popped out of port after we started the tag.
- The objective was not to kill your fleet, it was to halt your advance into Neuvitas, and hold you up long enough for the flag to expire. We were successful in this objective.
- There was also a large force of British ships outside the battle as well that were preparing to enter.
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When someone is said to be “flapping their gums” it means that he or she talks a lot about topics he or she doesn't reallyunderstand or know about. It also means to say something but not really mean it.Is this a decent description GrapeShot? Sorry for my ignorance...
It absolutely is.
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Less roleplaying mate, do you really think we are going to wake up at the middle of the night to do a pb?
Also, peace with USA could be achieved too.
I feel it is worthy to mention that our diplomats sat in the Spanish National TS on Friday for seven hours and were told, and I quote, "We are not holding diplomatic talks with the United States at this time."
We want to find a peace agreement. It is the Spanish who do not wish to sue for peace, not us.
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I must confess that I did not like this thing at the begining. But seeing all the rections I´m starting to love it.
Hey, if so many brits, dutch and americans hate it can´t be so bad.
In regard to americans, I am sure that if the US returns Las Tortugas, Cayo Vacas, Cayo de Sal and La Anguilla, and put their feet off Cuba, no one would waste the wonderful nights of August in Spain attacking ports or destroying communities.
I´m not diplomat, I´m a particular.
I would be fine for giving up Cayo de Sal and La Anguilla, and even Puerto de Nipe, but I cannot abide the lost of Cayo Vacas and Las Tortugas. That opens up a clear assault route against our southern ports, and drives a wedge in our supply lines between the west and east coast of Florida.
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The Americans are also in peace talks with Spain, havent you read the post of Johny Reb?
We are, but that is contingent on the Spanish Diplomats actually wanting to talk with us, which it appears they don't. Thus, doing this peace deal will leave us hanging, alone against Spain and the Pirates, despite repeated assurances from the Dutch that they would not sue for peace unless we were part of the peace deal.
Not to mention this peace deal was proposed without the approval of the Dutch Council, so yeah, right now this is a SNAFU.
actually we are not screwing over the americans - PvP agains the spanish ships is still allowed - we merely cease the port attacks (outside of the gentlemen's zone) - you may tehrefore stills creen for the american ports or even their attacks
During talks, Britain and the Dutch told us that they would not sue for peace without America being involved. Essentially, if Britain and the Dutch finished this deal without us being represented, they would be backstabbing us by directly contradicted what they had said, numerous times, and that would throw our alliances in question.
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I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve
In that, you are correct. You have awoken the United States and filled us with the resolve to unify and fight. Let us see if SORRY is all bark and no bite, or if they're able to rise to the challenge and back up their talk.
(I know what you meant with the context, but it was too perfect since you didn't indicate who was saying.)
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You do realize that your clan is KOS to every pirate clan.
Pray tell, why? Just because they left SORRY, or is it something else?
As Sun Tzu once said, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If they are KOS by every clan, then I might need to support them.
Spain is at War
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I, for one, am enthused about finally getting some timers that I can defend that aren't in the middle of goddamn European timers or stuck in the middle of the Bahamas. Some of us have to work, you know! We might actually get an honest to god battle and not these troll flags we've had being pulled for the past month.