Sju Sjösjuka Sjömän
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At least we do agree on this one
SEE!
PROGRESSION! We've agreed on one thing! Now, let's continue!
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You're welcome. But as you said, cute attempt. Something something dark side something hypocrisy.
Every time you write a comment, I spend 5 minutes just watching your avatar. It's.. calming.. for some odd reason...
Do I need counseling? :s
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Who is the government for DRUNK?
Since there is no real authority yet announced; no one. If you're talking RP wise? Meta-gaming wise it's the developers.
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JUST GO PIRATE IF UR PLAYING AS A PIRATE!
OTHERWISE.... there is just no point in having a pirate nation
privateers worked for the nation. not against it.
It is your personal thoughts that we're working against the nation. Until there is a legit power and authority in Sweden, you cannot give yourself the right to say who is and who is not working for and against it.
Also. Once again. We're not pirates.
You still don't seem to understand the difference between a pirate and a privateer.
Let me however help you out so you can understand the difference beetween them.
On Steam, Naval Action is described with the following text;
"Naval Action is an exciting, realistic and beautifully detailed naval combat sandbox immersing players into the experience of the most beautiful period of naval history - when sailing ruled the seas."
Realistic. They want realism. That's why you can only play as the nations that actually had ports in "the new world". If they want realism, they should also have privateers. But once again, you say privateers are pirates and that we therefore have chosen the wrong faction. Well. Let us look at these two words, privateer and pirate, and see what they truely mean.
Pirate;
"A person who robs or commits illegal violence at sea or on the shores of the sea."
Privateer;
"An armed ship that is privately owned and manned, comminissioned by a government to fight or harass enemy ships."
Soo.. What is DRUNK doing again..? We're fighting and harassing enemy ships.. Under the flag of Sweden.. So what does that make us? Pirates or privateers? And please, don't just say pirate. Look at the definitions and think really hard buddy. I am sure you will see that you're in the wrong, atleast when it comes to what terms you are using.
Also, to gain those definitions I used http://www.dictionary.com/
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Can you provide proof that it isn't?
As many others already have stated, not up to us to do so. It's your job.
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Consider; if the majority of your nation's clans decided that everyone would only use half sails during battles, would it be trolling for some clans to reject that limitation and use full sails?
These clans, this council, are asking other players to abide by restrictions that they made up for themselves. I have yet to see a valid explanation from anyone why players should be asked to abstain from enjoying legitimate activities within a game that they have purchased.
At the end of the day, the only people that players have to listen to when it comes to what they can and cannot do in the game are the game developers. Anything else is just pointless squawking.
This.
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I honestly see only one possible solution:
https://tyrionlannister.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/I-demand-a-Trial-by-Combat1.png
*actually chuckles irl*
But Privateers were not allowed to attack allied or friendly ships nor even their ports. That would have been an act of war. So when you people still ganking Danes and French and their ports this has nothing to to with Privateers but only with Pirates.
But this peace treaty between Sweden and Denmark-Norway is yet again, not real. It's not real because you once again have no authority given to you by the developers. It's not even partially real because you havent even proved that actually more than 50% (majority) agrees with the peace treaty. You don't know what Sweden actually wants until there is a solid vote where everyone has their saying. And even people that don't care has to vote "blank" in order for it to be correct. As long as this is the case, you cannot continue to claim that there is a peace treaty between Sweden and Denmark-Norway. There is only a peace treaty between KF, HRE and a group of other clans from Sweden and a group of clans on the Danish-Norweigan side. Not the nations themselves. So I sadly have to disregard your argument as a whole.
EDIT; And even if you had a majority vote... once again.... no statement from the developers.
you trolls make my day Every day, I can be sure that your "logic" can make me laugh. Thank you, Sju, for this and keep it coming
So I'm a troll without logic in your eyes too now? For trying to solve things?
*grabs popcorn*
I did that the second I clicked "post" on the original post. I knew it would cause strong winds, but I was hoping for more attempts to solve the problem than just throwing horse shit at fans. :/
This whole problem would have never existed if the Swedish governement just locked the Rum rations storage.
Now you have to deal with DRUNKs
.... what... did you... just say...? L.. Lo... Lock.. away... the rum...?
*mumbles* Jävla åbäke *mumbles*
How dare you propose a government monopoly on commodities! Has the Boston tea party not taught you ANYTHING? I should bring your anti-Dutch thinking to the tribunal and have your trading permission in Willemstad revoked for even entertaining such treacherous thoughts against the free market. Restricting the access to rum - are you MAD?!
+1
I mean you don't shoot your own team-mates in CoD only because you "role-play" a Russian Commissar...
OH GOD.
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I suggest we close the topic, since both sides cant get to a compromise.
I suggest we don't close the topic, as I see progression. Atleast when it comes to talking outside of this forum simply because of the existance of this very post. I am sure there is a lot of officers and leaders who in this post can confirm that I've spoken to them, on both sides.
How about we disable clans
I've actually been thinking about that, but I am affraid it wouldnt really solve it in the long run.. It would just cause more confusion I believe to who did what and why.
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i just dont get why players who are pirate at heart dont play pirate.
il tell u why. Responsability for their actions. As it is now they can be assholes all Day long without risking anything.
You still don't seem to understand the difference between a pirate and a privateer.
Let me however help you out so you can understand the difference beetween them.
On Steam, Naval Action is described with the following text;
"Naval Action is an exciting, realistic and beautifully detailed naval combat sandbox immersing players into the experience of the most beautiful period of naval history - when sailing ruled the seas."
Realistic. They want realism. That's why you can only play as the nations that actually had ports in "the new world". If they want realism, they should also have privateers. But once again, you say privateers are pirates and that we therefore have chosen the wrong faction. Well. Let us look at these two words, privateer and pirate, and see what they truely mean.
Pirate;
"A person who robs or commits illegal violence at sea or on the shores of the sea."
Privateer;
"An armed ship that is privately owned and manned, comminissioned by a government to fight or harass enemy ships."
Soo.. What is DRUNK doing again..? We're fighting and harassing enemy ships.. Under the flag of Sweden.. So what does that make us? Pirates or privateers? And please, don't just say pirate. Look at the definitions and think really hard buddy. I am sure you will see that you're in the wrong, atleast when it comes to what terms you are using.
Also, to gain those definitions I used http://www.dictionary.com/
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even tldr was long.
:<
I tried, okay?
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Furthermore, if members of DRUNK or RNON or individuals have text chat evidence of abuse directed towards them they should submit it to the admins and mods. This sort of behaviour is at very least worth game based punishment, and at its worst is illegal in many RL nations laws as online bullying and should be treated very seriously.
Already doing that buddy.
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Thrown in my vote.
I do however have to question why so many says yes to cargo? This will decrease the risk of moving valuable cargo, which in my eyes should be risky.
Just my thought on the subject really.
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C'mon, I came to town to see a hanging !!!!!
STRING THEM UP !!!
Or at least 1 of them... the cook...yeah the damn cook is to blame !!!
What has Silver done you?!
He's a gre... alright... cook.
Though.. He does not really know how to cook a pig over a open fire now when I think about it..
He's great at peeling potatos though.. Lots of training what I know.
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Lol - grats mate!
Thanks. :3
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He's a good egg this one (Sju) but the internet and these forums are clearly no place for decent, reasonable people (or so my clan keep telling me!)...
Speaking of egg.. Might be quuuiiiiiiite off-topic but hey...
I got a job today! In a egg factory! Egg factory.. Egg farm....Chicken farm...... Chicken factory..........
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A place that have chickens laying eggs, then sells the eggs.
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Sorry Sju, you misunderstand me. I was trying to point out that whilst you were being accused of all kind of horrible things, you were being perfectly polite whilst your accusers were doing the very same that you and your clan are accused of.
I was actually trying to pay you a compliment!
Oh, my bad then.
Thanks buddy, always nice to get a compliment!
As I wrote to Francis, irony in written form is so darn hard to understand sometimes. Or maybe I'm just truely stupid, who knows.
It is however to me quite amusing that I get accused for so many things while I have done nothing but writing this post and try to actually solve it. I've invited multiple leaders to talk with me and I've tried my very best to actually see things from the eyes of the supporters to the peace treaty. Unless I cannot see it from their point of view, how can I even begin to discuss a change with them right?
But, I believe I do understand and I totaly respect their ways. That's why I seek a solution that will allow them to keep their peace treaty but on the other hand also allow me and DRUNK to privateer in the name of Sweden!
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I think he was joking and pointing out that you've actually been clear and polite despite the non-stop accusations of the opposite, no worries. Kind of a "if you're going to be accused of it, you may as well just do it, ha ha" thing. If I'm wrong then nevermind
Oh...........
If that's the case...
Man, I feel stupid.
I honestly have always spoken against irony in written form since it's so hard to understand sometimes. ._.
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Sju, you and your clan are accused of so much anti-social and horrible behaviour in game and on the forums.
So the least you can do is play ball and stop being so darn polite, calm and bloody reasonable in your posts...
So what do you want me to do?
Be rude, curse and insult people?
If I'm not wrong, it's the supporters of the peace treaty that preaches diplomacy. Well, I'm trying to diplomatic here. I'm trying to be reasonable and humble.
You think that's something bad?
Does it piss you off that I don't let the negative comments get under my skin?
You don't know what your'e talking about. I've sailed alot with DrunkenSloth. That was when he was a member of 13th, before he he went rogue. You can say alot about him but the guy has balls. He saved my ass more than once. I've built ships for him and so on. The problem I have is their attitude in the nation chat and on the forum where they (not Sloth) spreads desinformation in the swedish ranks, trashtalking KF and HRE. I would LOVE to take them under my wing again. We could surely use a bunch of reckless lunetics in the war against the dutch. But they are hellbent on stiring up tention with the danes. ...for some reason.
Then why don't you and I sit down and talk? I'm a new fresh face that wants nothing but a nice community filled with PvP. Don't you agree that I would be easy to talk to?
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Whats gonna happen when RNON take all ouer Northen ports?
As said, any player who sails under the swedish flag should be allowed to join a port battle that RNON starts. If you believe that you cannot defend ports from one Danish-Norweigan clan, I must sadly question your choise of playing on a PvP server and on the hardest faction. No offence.
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Belize, I saw it too, from both sides. I don't want to repeat it again. I stopped to read it, because half is right and half is wrong, and nobody find an end. Perhaps we try it now. I saw you today morning near Basseterre, perhaps we can sail a bit together.... Hehe without sink French players.... Oh oh forget it
Greetings Fury
I'd happily sail with anyone who seek a extra set of sails.
I laugh at the pretense of being enlightened and open to talks about the future. Priceless ...
And you're here to work for a better community and stop this fight, right..?
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Sorry but thats not true...i never see insults of drunk members in the chat, especially after KF/HRE and even KSKGE members starting trash talking about DRUNK. The only thing is we start to defends our self against lies and shitty trash talk.
Regardless if it is true or not, my friend Belize, that is in the past. If we wish to move forward with them (KF, HRE, rest of the treaty supporting clans) we have to look forward.
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I'm not sur there IS a difference you see?
DRUNKS and Rogue Clan have been screwing the game for the rest of the population at global scale.
Unless you want to sacrifice the pleasure of 1000 players for the pleasure of 10?
I hope you understand our poin of view. Because even if you are not directly part of this. DRUNKS and Clan-Like doing there stuff without even thinking about the rest are a something that need to be dealed with.
I'd say that it's quite easily solved truth be told.
We have these two, if I quote, "rogue" clans in Sweden and Denmark-Norway. Let us do whatever we desire and exclude us from the peace treaty. Allow any danes to target members of DRUNK as they desire and let any swedes target members of RNON as they desire. Let us take any ports from eachother as we desire. If a conquest flag is bought by a member of DRUNK, any KF and HRE member joining gets a "free-pass" for that one battle, as anyone should be allowed to join if the battle already is going to happen. Same with RNON, if they buy a flag, let any danes join it without punishment due to the peace treaty.
This way, the major clans of Denmark-Norway and Sweden can continue to be friendly, neutral, whatever they are with eachother and focus on the enemies they see valid and we in clans such as DRUNK and RNON can continue to do what we desire and enjoy.
The peace treaty will still keep 99% of the swedish players in peace with Denmark-Norway and vice versa with the danish players with Sweden.
It will only exclude Sweden.
So, if this was to be agreed upon, all leaders and officers in all clans MUST uphold a good tone in the forums and global chatt. This means, if I write "I've captured a danish player trader" in the swedish global chatt (I don't know why I would, but it's just a example really..) no one is allowed to say "OMG WHY" or "FUCKING RESPECT THE TREATY" or "DRUNK GOES TROLLING AGAIN" or "GO TO PIRATES DRUNK".
We'd do our stuff in "peace", and the clans behind the treaty would do their stuff in peace, litterary.
Not too bad of a suggestion, is it?
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And yet you make a Open Letter about you.
Yeah sur.
This open letter was written by me personally. It does not bear the voice of DRUNK as a clan but simply me as a player of Naval Action.
Please understand the difference.
Sju you are right in many times. Players often insulting you and so you and your clan mates please try stop it. Perhaps other will learn it too. I respect your way and over. Please try it with our way too. First all want to discuss this and start to insult eachother. Now all was said and over. We must life together. I will try to stop it in our clan. Play your game and have fun. I don't know how throw the first stone and what's matter.
Greetings Fury
I have never once insulted anyone, if that's what you mean?
But if you'd put in efforts to try and make the community better, I thank you. I've also done the same with my clan and I will keep doing it untill I feel it's enough.
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you are just part of the wrong side.
:/ Mhm.
It just feels like DRUNK isn't open for any kind of compromise.
I am, and I actually recently got promoted to officer within DRUNK so I can actually speak on behalf of the clan now if there is any good ideas and comments here.
Sju please explain to me a solution to following dilemma:
When DRUNK plays as they wishes they destroy the fun of players liking RvR (PvP) and Diplomacy.
When the Council gets his way, they destroy the fun of DRUNK.
I'd say that it's quite easily solved truth be told.
We have these two, if I quote, "rogue" clans in Sweden and Denmark-Norway. Let us do whatever we desire and exclude us from the peace treaty. Allow any danes to target members of DRUNK as they desire and let any swedes target members of RNON as they desire. Let us take any ports from eachother as we desire. If a conquest flag is bought by a member of DRUNK, any KF and HRE member joining gets a "free-pass" for that one battle, as anyone should be allowed to join if the battle already is going to happen. Same with RNON, if they buy a flag, let any danes join it without punishment due to the peace treaty.
This way, the major clans of Denmark-Norway and Sweden can continue to be friendly, neutral, whatever they are with eachother and focus on the enemies they see valid and we in clans such as DRUNK and RNON can continue to do what we desire and enjoy.
The peace treaty will still keep 99% of the swedish players in peace with Denmark-Norway and vice versa with the danish players with Sweden.
It will only exclude Sweden.
So, if this was to be agreed upon, all leaders and officers in all clans MUST uphold a good tone in the forums and global chatt. This means, if I write "I've captured a danish player trader" in the swedish global chatt (I don't know why I would, but it's just a example really..) no one is allowed to say "OMG WHY" or "FUCKING RESPECT THE TREATY" or "DRUNK GOES TROLLING AGAIN" or "GO TO PIRATES DRUNK".
We'd do our stuff in "peace", and the clans behind the treaty would do their stuff in peace, litterary.
Not too bad of a suggestion, is it?
you trolls make my day 
Letter of Marque issued by Swedish King to DRUNK
in National news
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LÄNGE LEVE CARL XIII!
SALUT I HANS ÄRA!