Johannes Zoutman
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Here are your new friends. This is what you signed up for. Congratulations; I wish you all the best in keeping this mutt close, as I'm sure he's far cuddlier than his mouth suggests.
The British are playing the smart game, and condemning them for being more savvy than your own factions instead of trying to smarten up as well is quite telling. As it is, right now every nation may as well take a dig at the French and see what they can get out of us, since we've proven it takes only 2 days to make us throw aside our spines so as to better present ourselves to the aggressors. I wish I could say "do not mistake the lack of fighting resolve of French leaders as representative of her Capitaines" but sadly I fear that may just be the case.
The saddest part of all of this is that the Swedish could have gotten a better deal had they made a separate deal but instead stood by their French allies, who then quite eagerly capitulated in order to fill their plates with what scraps their new taskmasters felt they deserved. We let them down, despite the example shown us by the French on PvP2. Why not call us lapdogs at this point? Just look to Jameson BH, who clearly proves that a dog is happy with his master so long as he's patted on the head from time to time and told he's a good boy.
That seems an unfair statement. Those scraps you refer too number a good amount of ports which are returned too ensure the Swedes and French factions do not lack in economical resources and therefore keep your factions alive. That being said; consider our postition. We demand neutrality and do not want a knife in the back in return. I would direct my anger at your allies who left you hanging to purchase their own imperial pursuits against the pirates. They had the fleet out and chose a mere port over their allies, then attempt to recruit disgruntled players as a vampire would do to a french maiden, sucking away its lifeblood. Leaving the Swedes to fight along the brits would be most dishonourable as well, in my opinion.
Good luck in the future, sir. May you choice wisely!
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I just realized this. The galaxies are colliding :-D
I know! Is the sun rising in the north already or what?
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And that existential fear has just multiplied by seeing IronClaw and Jameson BH agree on something.
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Yes it is, I understand you failed to visit it the other day
We know, and so does the rest of the civilized world now, the worth of the Danish-Dutch Alliance. Forged in the heat and smoke of roaring cannons once again.
/salute
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I see Frederiksted is nice this time of year.
A lovely place this time of the year, sir! Danish and Dutch sailors slapping eachother on the shoulder while teaching one another their bawdy songs and drinking their beers!
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I assume he is pointing towards a mirror in this case?
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Vive la France!
Sir,
We thank you for your public support in this war. However, as we precisely intend never to surrender to tyranny and always support the values of liberté egalité and fraternité, all major French clans accepted the peace as it was negotiated yesterday. The terms and conditions that will be posted on these forums in their due time were deemed reasonable and honorable by both parties.
I am strong enough to admit that we were defeated in this war. If we decided to pursue the war further, we would be defeated in this game. We decided against being reduced to a state that would hurt France as a nation in the long run and thus we decided to do what was neccessary for France.
Vive la France!
I salute your bravery and common sense, sir.
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Alliances and ports conquered are not the question who matters here. The real question is how do you want to keep the game working together to have fun.
Each nation should have at least ten ports who cannot be taken, with a safe area for the new players to farm, with enough resources to build a correct economy and craft some ships.
To have some good fights, you need to be two. Where is the point to crush down a nation until all the players left?
We are a little community, we all love this game, and we are still alpha testers, so we have to help the devs and show us what we want for the future of this game. They have a lot of work with the land implementation, and can’t do everything, need some time too to release patches and change mechanics.
As a French diplomate present in the meeting last night, I am really thankfull to the Dutchs and the Danes who openned these negociations.
They had two victories. One victory under the nations to show their power and organisation by defeating France and Sweden in two days.
And a most important victory for the French and Swedish community with this proposition to giving back their ports, because now we still can play and have fun. We won’t be stuck because of the mechanics of the game, and they acted like mature gentlemens.
Don’t forget its just a game and we have to play TOGETHER even if we fight for different nations.
Thank you for your work. I heard that meeting took ages and was tiring to all its participants.
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Well, isn't it a bit late to offer aid to the French? And how about the Swedes? You suggest these noble French captains leave them behind after their refusal to leave the alliance between them? Surely the noble captains of the great nation of France do not stand for such behavior?
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Because attacking and boarding traders is part of the PvP...just because HRE and KF made this, you cant expect to be 100% save now from boarding through smaller clans or single players...
If People want to be save, they have to organize an escord.
Probely not and that is too be expected. If guilded players under the treaty start doing it tho there will no doubt be an response and, correct me if I am wrong, it wont be a very friendly one.
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I would like to see an option to vote 'in-game' every day on national status ie I am British so i would vote on all other nations ' status'. Votes are collected at maintenance - and everyone has to abide the decision for the next day. To be allied both nations would have to win a majority for 'Allied' after maintenance all allied rules apply - ie can enter ports, go pirate if you attack them etc
Not a fan of this. I like the system to be less intrusive on player diplomacy. Option to attack should always be possible but you could perhaps set an alliance per guild after which it states 'Allied' in the box with the enemies name and guild instead. Then breaking the peace will truelly matter as a deed of aggression.
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Why should we feel to bind on YOUR agreement with the Danes? You can't speak for all people playing swedish faction.
Well, you do want to survive as a nation, don't you? You are down to one port and surrounded by a mass of Danish, and Dutch, ships. Your nearest ally France has taken a beating as well and is unable to aid you. The Brits for now are occupied elsewhere while the southern clans have a ceasefire with the Dutch. Plus they have to watch the US and the Pirates not taking advantage if they commit to a campaign against the Danish and the Dutch, and likely also the pirates.
Correct me if i am wrong but this pretty much sums it up. I would just start rebuilding my nation and not get it into bigger trouble.
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Let's leave that for it's own thread that will inevitably come in its due time to discuss the terms and conditions. In regards to the proceedings, I personally view them as mostly correct and mostly reasonable. As most dealings with the Dutch to be honest...
That is good to hear, sir. There is no reason not to be polite and considering just over a few exchanged cannonballs after all.
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its a minor faction in Sweden. They will get to it as well
Well, the best of luck, sir. Leading in these troubled times is often an harsh and ungrateful occupation.
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Crafting materials and there are some trade routes that allow you to get rich. Come on, as Dutchman you should know the best how to trade properly
.I have to admit I am still rather new to the game and haven't tried my hand yet at trading nor crafting. Have spend a ridicules amount of time happily playing my basic cutter in our low level fleet and acting as a scout in the east. Just made it to my first snow and it is rather amazing so I doubt i will get into trading as it is.
Following the political discussions as well. I am often guildleader in the games I play and NA sure gives alot of true options for diplomacy, unlike say Warhammer Online does.
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This. That is why convoys and escorts for traders should be planned organized and possibly remunerated, through the more dangerous areas, at least on our side.
But trading has to become worth it first tho?
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Well, agree to disagree, mon amis. Not of all us are pleased with the decisions of our leaders, though for the sake of unity I'll say no more.
I do not think they have had much of a choice, sir. How do you feel about the discussions with the Dutch?
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I believe you need a hard man. With plenty of bans given under his belt. And back in the day, for those oldies out there, as one of the first mods on a game called Runescape. And who, when drunk, would log in and mute all of Varrock because he likes to have everyone just listen to him ranting about his favorite football club who managed to loose again, like today. :/
Well, dont look any further. I am the guy you are looking for!
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Quite right; I couldn't agree more.
My only regret in all of this is that we weren't able to organise more aid for our Swedish allies, beyond encouragement here. This is something I and many others hope to rectify. In that spirit I look forward to continuing to fight the good fight, regardless of how many ports we're left with.
Likewise, sir! It has been a pleasure to battle the French Navy.
/salute
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Good luck, sirs.
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Maybe remind Ironjaw and Liaryste to let it go, seems they get all emotional whenever PFK and DSL win some battles for you guys.
Keep holding on.. again. What ever happened to them being PvEers in the west?
Anyhow, have fun over there but stop derailing topics about the dutch nation to further your agenda of hate against DAS/BOAT.
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To be fair he did not start this here if i read the dispute right..
as i stated before pls stop this now, before the topic has to be cleaned, it was/is an intressting one...
It was about a rough day against the French in which many ion our faction refused to participate. It happens. But he couldn't deal with it and thrown hissyfits for days on end about it bringing down morale and plainly being an ass. Then he left to join the US. That should have been it and be done with it. He won't let it go tho. :/
Furthermore I agree with you. We have a celebration of our own to celebrate. Well played, sir! Long live the republic!
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So PFK and DSL moved east and suddenly the Dutch start to win, does not take a genius to see who the real warriors are in the Dutch nation. Good Job DSL and PFK.
Don't you have a nation to run out on? Even as American you still can't let go and move on. Knock it off already. Sjeesh.
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I am in there, somewhere! The moment i finally made it to second Luitenant and get to sail a Snow life seems to be improving greatly! Onwards!
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[PVP 1] French and Dutch : Successful Talks and Non Aggression Treaty
in National news
Posted · Edited by Johannes Zoutman
I ran one of those fleets and we went out with 15 ships to sail east. Most of us fresh of the docks in Willemstad. I was jumping down on my seat and hoping I would have led them to the right island and not sail in the wrong direction. Haha! I am getting better at it tho!
I loved the fact how DAS/BOAT leaders jumped in our TS to encourage our efforts and how we hold back a large part of the french fleet. Good times.
Less pleased with how this treaty is turning out. It is beyond me why you would let the french faction die out or turn them into bitter enemies. We all seen the two front war was most troublesome for the Dutch. Removing that dagger from our back, as we did the Spanish and Brits in the west, should apply to the east as well. The Brits will be on top of us, or our allies the Danes in a matter of weeks, if not days. A second front pulls to many of our ships away from a future western front. I am sure the Brits are having a laugh now.
And then there is the aspect of allowing an enemy to get up and not be bombed back into the stoneage. The Dutch-French War has been alot of fun and our side has won it. Why take an area that makes us overstretch? We couldn't hold it before and had to defend the gap to stop them until the western front was secured. Its too big to defend as it is anyhow. And then their is the best intrest of the game. Sweden and France seem to have lost quite alot players already. Do we really want dead factions in a time where new players are coming in to try out Naval Action?
But alas, just a mere second Luitenant here. Good luck to all in the meetings and remember we are one nation. Long live the Republic!