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I bought UAD over the weekend after watching some youtube videos. It's been a blast.
I have been trying my hand at making historical ships - Recently the late 1890's to early 1910's US Protected Cruisers.
One issue I've seen is historically many of these had 6in casemate guns. For example the USS St. Louis and the USS Maine (of Spanish-American War fame) both had 6in casemate guns in their armament.
However, in UAD these hulls are limited to 5in casemate guns.
EDIT: Here are some stats for one of the protected cruisers - The USS St. Louis. If any of you have played World of Warships you will know what a mini battleship the St. Louis is. I mentioned the lack of 6in casemate guns but I have also noticed some other oddities in ship construction in Ultimate Admirals: Dreadnoughts. It's my belief that armaments weigh too much in the game. In some cases you can't even get close to matching the total displacement and armaments of these historical cruisers. Although skipping Barbette armor level and reducing max speed to 20kn or less really helps save weight.
USS. St. Louis:
Commissioned: 1906
Total Displacement: 10,839 long tons
Max Speed: 22kn
Engines: Triple expansion reciprocating engines
Funnels: 4 standard funnels
Armament:
14-6in guns, 1x6in fore and aft, the other 12 in casemates - In UAD you can place 6in main guns fore and aft, but have to settle for 5in in casemates
18!-3in guns. You will never pull this off in UAD with the current hulls! At best you can find a couple spots to stick 4 or so 2in or 3in secondaries
12-1in rapid fire guns. Ditto here, there are no 1in rapid fire guns currently and even if there were, you won't be able to tack that many onto the hulls in this game
Armor:
4in Belt Armor
2-3 Deck armor amidships - Probably tapered off to 1in or less for Deck Extended
4in Shields, I assume this correlates to Turret and Secondaries armor in UAD
5in Conning Tower armor
Historical US Protected Cruiser Armament
in Shipyard Discussions - Ship designer, Warships and their components
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My most recent attempt at the USS St. Louis:
Hull: Armored Cruiser IV
Displacement: 2,000t Max, 10,555t as built
Armament:
2x6in Turrets fore and aft
14x5in Casemate guns amidships
4x3in Casemate guns in the fore and aft casemate locations
5x3in Secondary guns around the front tower, basically the only place I could put them without messing too much with existing firing arcs.
Although far short in historical armament, I think this build gets the flavor right and comes in at around the historical displacement.