CaptainCaveMan Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Hats off to those who are watching out for this sort of behavior...and reducing their rank and taking away their gold is a good lesson for them to learn. Keep up the good work...totally enjoy this game and the direction that it is taking. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Chis Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 thank you admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJWolf Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 *Salute And this is why I am so happy to have found this game, the Dev's truly make this a game far more worthy of of our purchasing their game than most others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeinePanik Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm surprised. I'm pretty new to NA. Actions after announcements? And quick too? Is that the usual behavior of the Devs here? If yes, I'm gonna be happy to stay here for a while Good work ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) When will said captains lose their rank? Also is it not slightly harsh to reset their XP completely? Maybe use their game time and the average daily exp to calculate what rank they would be at having used the grinding methods considered to be fair? They have still paid for the game and put time into it which they cannot get back. Can I get the same treatment by just sitting AFK in port? Leniency on cheaters, I wonder what's next. Edited February 6, 2016 by Quineloe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Thanks Devs. Good to know you're on patrol and looking for cutthroats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLeggit Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) great new...good job devs. Lets hope that's the end of it. Edited February 6, 2016 by SirLeggit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarKozPL Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I hope that admins first check what "farmers" do in battle and AFTER that they decide if this is farmer or great player!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Vicious Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 btw your automatic system have flaws for example i engage 3rd rate npc bringing them to 10% thean leave battle, re-enaging them in Ow over and over i can farm 500k dmg withouth sinking it engaging it 25 times+ in a raw , this will give a false positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 btw your automatic system have flaws for example i engage 3rd rate npc bringing them to 10% thean leave battle, re-enaging them in Ow over and over i can farm 500k dmg withouth sinking it engaging it 25 times+ in a raw , this will give a false positive? You fail to read the rule. 2 players or more. no npc involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Vicious Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 You fail to read the rule. 2 players or more. no npc involved. just asking if it purely check dmg/sink or it only count if is players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutai Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Any chance you will name and disgrace the players? That is generally a huge incentive NOT to do something like this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceA4Thought Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Any chance you will name and disgrace the players? That is generally a huge incentive NOT to do something like this. Agreed Edited February 6, 2016 by MaliceA4Thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJWolf Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Any chance you will name and disgrace the players? That is generally a huge incentive NOT to do something like this. +1 Name and shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparrinomd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I was not aware of this flaw in the system when one can gain XP by gaming the system but I am still a little confused as to how "damage farming" is accomplished. Can someone define what it is so we can be sure to not be doing it inadvertently? Does it always take 2 or more players in cahoots or are single players able to use this cheat as well?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim DeGrim Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I do not need to be told I'm exploiting the game with actions as these. + 1. L'État, c'est moi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Any chance you will name and disgrace the players? That is generally a huge incentive NOT to do something like this. I do not agree on this. It is no incentive at all. The incentive is to know that exploiters are dealt with so stay safe, play safe, have fun. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutai Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I do not agree on this. It is no incentive at all. The incentive is to know that exploiters are dealt with so stay safe, play safe, have fun. Actually name and shaming has been proven to be a huge dissuasive tool against hackers/cheaters/exploiters in the past. When someone gets named as a cheater, it looks bad not only on them but their entire guild. This means that guilds tend to keep a closer eye on their members also and causes guilds to self police these sorts of actions. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain146 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Thanks for this devs, i mean it 100%, cheats have made me stop playing certain games fullstop i hate them, it's even worse when the devs don't do anything to stop them so a big +1 and i'll be buying whatever premium ships you make with out a doubt. Please keep this stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexcaliber Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) I was not aware of this flaw in the system when one can gain XP by gaming the system but I am still a little confused as to how "damage farming" is accomplished. Can someone define what it is so we can be sure to not be doing it inadvertently? Does it always take 2 or more players in cahoots or are single players able to use this cheat as well?? It has already been explained quite clearly, in this very thread no less, there is no way to do this accidentally, and excuses of "I didnt know it was against the rules" do not cut it, it is up to players to seek out and acquaint themselves with the rules. It involves attacking a player ship that deliberately does not fight back, instead it sits in place allowing players to do damage. Before the ship sinks the players allow it to leave the instance to repair to full health, before attacking it again and repeating ad nauseum with no intention of sinking or capping it. In response to the question about npc's, you cannot farm damage from npc's in a way that breaks the rules (unforseen bugs in the future notwithstanding). Npc's fight back or make every attempt to escape. Edited February 22, 2016 by Hexcaliber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim DeGrim Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 "I didnt know it was against the rules" Hex, I could not agree more. Plus, someone cannot tell me, in this example, that they know they are purposely circumventing a game play progression system. Even someone with only the slightest of moral compass would know better. These individuals were caught. They've paid their due, and can now return to the NA community as contributors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I was not aware of this flaw in the system when one can gain XP by gaming the system but I am still a little confused as to how "damage farming" is accomplished. Can someone define what it is so we can be sure to not be doing it inadvertently? Does it always take 2 or more players in cahoots or are single players able to use this cheat as well?? Two enemy players work together to level up by farming damage and xp and not killing each other. Usually, one has a larger ship and a bunch of smaller ships join in to farm damage, and everyone stops fighting after so much damage is farmed. They then leave and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Actually name and shaming has been proven to be a huge dissuasive tool against hackers/cheaters/exploiters in the past. When someone gets named as a cheater, it looks bad not only on them but their entire guild. This means that guilds tend to keep a closer eye on their members also and causes guilds to self police these sorts of actions. I do not disagree. It is a double edge blade though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean LaPointe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 It is great to see action taken against the exploit. Thank you Developers for taking the time to police the game and keeping it playable for all. Even in buying the game, capitalizing on the exploits hurts all players and punishment is just. It does take time to gain gold for improvements, it takes many battles to get to a different level of experience. What these individuals did, from what I have read, is taken an advantage of an exploit to enrich their own position in the game. Giving themselves advantages over all other players. I am glad they have been caught and being dealt with. Thank you Sirs o7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerrialKiller Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 good job i would myself take theyr gamekeys away but letting start from scratch must be frustrating as well :-) nice work keep it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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