admin Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 This ship deserves his place in history and must be available to sail. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Serk Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, admin said: This ship deserves his place in history and must be available to sail. Awesome! And very nice choice of ship represent that class hopefully, it will be equiped with 36pdrs, and make them available to bucentaure too Edited October 6, 2019 by Serk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekonda Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Immersive Ganking said: in Russian language ships are male gender @admin Diana back into the game WHEN??????????????????????????????????????? Edited October 6, 2019 by Beeekonda 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 She is lovely, though perhaps some teasers of Montanes, Wreker, or Temeraire? Or were you working on Redoubtable before those three? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audacious Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Edited October 7, 2019 by Audacious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I was expecting Temeraire to be Temeraire, not Redoubtable, ah well, cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Privateer-- Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Beeekonda said: @admin Diana back into the game Pls admin, I need a Diana. Make a tournament or something, I'll duel em for it. (ง'̀-'́)ง. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Haratik said: I was expecting Temeraire to be Temeraire, not Redoubtable, ah well, cheers. I wasn't expecting our Temeraire to be flush-decked, myself. But hey, whatever works. It's a cool-looking model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citoyen Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) inspired by this model? http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9025 Edited June 24, 2020 by Citoyen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Est-ce que l'écu aux trois fleurs de lys a survécu à la fin de la monarchie (sur les navires construits avant et toujours en activité après) ou a-t-il été supprimé/remplacé par la suite ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citoyen Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, LeBoiteux said: Is it to the three fleurs-de-lis that we survived the end of the monarchy? was deleted / replaced later? certainly, it would be very surprising if these « fleurs de lys » survived the "Convention nationale" 😆. the names of the ships themselves changed according to successive political regime the Redoutable was called Suffren at its launch in 1791 until 1794 Edited October 8, 2019 by Citoyen J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Citoyen J said: certainly, it would be very surprising if these « fleurs de lys » survived the "Convention nationale" 😆. the names of the ships themselves changed according to successive political regime the Redoutable was called Suffren at its launch in 1791 until 1794 Je demande ça parce que j'ai lu, au sujet des pavillons, sur le site de l'Ecole navale : Quote Le 5 décembre 1790, le ministre Fleurieu ordonna que « tous les bâtiments de la flotte française arbore le pavillon tricolore en mettant dans cette cérémonie l’appareil et la majesté nécessaires, observant qu’on ferait en cela une chose agréable au roi ». Mais la marine, très attachée à ses traditions, ne tint pas compte de ce changement. Le 15 février 1794, Jean Bon Saint-André, envoyé à Brest fit supprimer par la Convention l’usage du pavillon de 1790 au quartier tricolore pour imposer le pavillon national. Pourtant lors de la bataille d’Ouessant le 1e juin 1794, seuls le Redoutable et la Montagne où se trouvaient Jean Bon Saint-André et Villaret-Joyeuse portaient le pavillon réglementaire. Tous les autres navires sans exception portaient encore le pavillon blanc à quartier tricolore qui fût tout de même accepté par les officiers et les équipages au moment où le décret de février venait à nouveau de tout bouleverser. Je n'ai pas cherché de sources pour le confirmer/infirmer. Ce qui est (peut-être) vrai pour un morceau de tissu facilement changeable (et que l'auteur de ces lignes appelle "traditions") peut l'être (un temps) pour un morceau du décor sculpté... Il existe certainement des plans british de navires français capturés à l'époque pour trancher la question. Edited October 8, 2019 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 4:41 PM, admin said: This ship deserves his place in history and must be available to sail. btw the name of the ship is Le Redoutable : as it is Le Triomphant : in : On 10/7/2019 at 8:30 PM, Citoyen J said: Any French ship has an article in her shipname : Le, La or L' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citoyen Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) On 10/8/2019 at 10:30 PM, LeBoiteux said: btw the name of the ship is Le Redoutable : as it is Le Triomphant : in : Any French ship has an article in her shipname : Le, La or L' exactly Edited October 22, 2019 by Citoyen J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 We felt our obligation to resolve the greatest misfortune - which is sinking the amazing 3rd rate HMS Implacable - formerly known as Duguay-Trouin will be restored WIP of its Late style rugged stern gallery 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain2Strong Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) this redoutable looks like some small L'Ocean to me but more nice ships are always nice to have! Edited October 11, 2019 by Captain2Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 looks good, finally some new ships! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Teutonic said: looks good, finally some new ships! LOL yah like I expect new ships some time next year.....lol Almost half way through the month so when the next patch and I figure it won't have any other ships other than the one DLC mention all ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citoyen Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, admin said: We felt our obligation to resolve the greatest misfortune - which is sinking the amazing 3rd rate HMS Implacable - formerly known as Duguay-Trouin will be restored WIP of its Late style rugged stern gallery @admin 2 ships of the temeraire class will come in game? the Redoutable and the Duguay-trouin (hms implacable)? Edited October 12, 2019 by Citoyen J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Borch said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_San_Juan_Nepomuceno San Juan Nepomuceno (...) The San Juan Nepomuceno was French in design while... French Le Requin was Spanish-designed 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 12 hours ago, admin said: We felt our obligation to resolve the greatest misfortune - which is sinking the amazing 3rd rate HMS Implacable - formerly known as Duguay-Trouin will be restored WIP of its Late style rugged stern gallery here you go.. if they did not /could not sink it by cannon fire they just sabotage it by explosives... a ship has a soul .. i call it murder.. the people who are watching ,must have second thoughts about this...and call it a execution disgusting rulers i say... so a good idea to restore the ship for active duty... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sento de Benimaclet Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 5 hours ago, LeBoiteux said: The San Juan Nepomuceno was French in design True. Unfortunately, in Spain, after the fall of Ensenada and due to political issues, the construction model studied by Jorge Juan was gradually replaced by the French model, and the naval recovery plans in Spain were stagnant. Shortly before Jorge Juan died, he wrote a harsh letter to Carlos III for his blind subordination to the French naval model, predicting serious losses, as would happen in Trafalgar 32 years later, when light English ships, surely inspired by Juan's studies, gave at the end with the heavy and ancient Spanish-French fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sento de Benimaclet said: True. Unfortunately, in Spain, after the fall of Ensenada and due to political issues, the construction model studied by Jorge Juan was gradually replaced by the French model, and the naval recovery plans in Spain were stagnant. Shortly before Jorge Juan died, he wrote a harsh letter to Carlos III for his blind subordination to the French naval model, predicting serious losses, as would happen in Trafalgar 32 years later, when light English ships, surely inspired by Juan's studies, gave at the end with the heavy and ancient Spanish-French fleet. French 74-gun Téméraire, 80-gun Tonnant and 118-gun Océan, etc. classes, being shit ? Not sure all the Naval Historians will agree with you... 😉 10 hours ago, Citoyen J said: 2 ships of the temeraire class will come in game? the Redoutable and the Duguay-trouin (hms implacable)? The two ships are not exactly of the same type. The Duguay-Trouin belongs to a variant. See here. Moreover, Admin seems to imply that this ship will be British in game and only visible as HMS Implacable. It makes too (small) differences. And NA "is fond of" Trafalgar 🙂 btw I'd rather see in game captured ships with their original name and nationality... (or at least, both versions) From @Wagram : HMS Implacable : On 12/5/2018 at 7:40 PM, Wagram said: comparée à celle du Duguay-Trouin...http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/145178.html French Le Duguay-Trouin : Edited October 12, 2019 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citoyen Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, LeBoiteux said: French 74-gun Téméraire, 80-gun Tonnant and 118-gun Océan, etc. classes, being shit ? Not sure all the Naval Historians will agree with you... 😉 The two ships are not exactly of the same type. The Duguay-Trouin belongs to a variant. See here. Moreover, Admin seems to imply that this ship will be British in game and only visible as HMS Implacable. It makes too (small) differences. And NA "is fond of" Trafalgar 🙂 btw I'd rather see in game captured ships with their original name and nationality... (or at least, both versions) From @Wagram : HMS Implacable : French Le Duguay-Trouin : of course, but these two ships remain ships of the temeraire class ... whatever their respective destinies. so much the better if we have the two in play I just wanted confirmation. off topic on as for the theories as to what if some lost to trafalgar because of shipbuilding orientations of French inspirations ... it seems to me that the "Real Carlos" and the "San Hermenegildo" did not need the French for to sink each other ....😆 off topic off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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