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Nau Principe da Beira

Portuguese 44(?) or 54(?) guns

1774

 

 

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Need info on her.

 

About the guns,sources say that she mounted 44 guns but i counted at least 52.

 

Not to be mistaked with the Princesa da Beira: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7891

 

 

 

Sources: http://triganices.blogspot.gr/2012/01/nau-princepe-da-beira.html

http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blogspot.gr/2013_10_01_archive.html

http://museu.marinha.pt/pt/exposicoes/exposicaopermanente/SeculoXVIII/Paginas/default.aspx

http://3decks.pbworks.com/f/Catalogo+dos+navios+brigantinos+%281640-1910%29+-+Esparteiro.pdf

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Ain't she pretty...I am curious whether we have a Portuguese native lurking the forums that can find access to plans from his country or not...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks as if you have two different models here. Something about the stern design...

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Ain't she pretty...I am curious whether we have a Portuguese native lurking the forums that can find access to plans from his country or not...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks as if you have two different models here. Something about the stern design...

 

 

You might be right.I aint so sure to be honest.Information on them was quite scarce and not really clear.

 

 

Point out any differences that you see :D

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Almost a year ago i proposed this same ship along with Principe Real and got the exact references from the navy archives in the picture. They will thank you for having the exact refs for them to bring out for you to study.

Accessing them has a fee, copying them has a fee and for commercial use ( of the records, as in books no idea how ti works for a software... )  it has another entire fee, as it is usual in all national records worldwide.

 

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Almost a year ago i proposed this same ship along with Principe Real and got the exact references from the navy archives in the picture. They will thank you for having the exact refs for them to bring out for you to study.

Accessing them has a fee, copying them has a fee and for commercial use ( of the records, as in books no idea how ti works for a software... )  it has another entire fee, as it is usual in all national records worldwide.

 

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Thank you for letting me know!

I guess the fees are a bit generous to access,copy,etc the archives right?

I was hoping for someone from Portugal to be able to contribute!

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I am from here ihihih but won't spend a dime for commercial use.

 

They are open every working day from 10 to 16 ( big issue ). Requests and documentation copying must be ordered in advance in the mornings IIRC.

 

No idea IF they actually can mail them if you live in a distant city but worth a try on your part if you are really into building them, you have their prices/rules there https://arquivohistorico.marinha.pt/docs/norma_reproducao_docs_AH.pdf

 

The ship plans are big and will account for several pages/images.

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I am from here ihihih but won't spend a dime for commercial use.

 

They are open every working day from 10 to 16 ( big issue ). Requests and documentation copying must be ordered in advance in the mornings IIRC.

 

No idea IF they actually can mail them if you live in a distant city but worth a try on your part if you are really into building them, you have their prices/rules there https://arquivohistorico.marinha.pt/docs/norma_reproducao_docs_AH.pdf

 

The ship plans are big and will account for several pages/images.

 

Can't open  the PDF. I get a warning message as i try...

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About how good looking and sexy the ship is :P on a more serious note he might be getting a warning that the site is infected or something which I highly doubt that it is since I believe the website is state owned and managed

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Where are this museum? Ill go to Portugal next April and i like see it

 

You can't miss it if you go to Lisbon, Belém. It is in one of the wings of Mosteiro dos Jerónimos.

 

The archives are in another place though but not far, Cordoaria Nacional, roughly less than aclick away across the gardens but they open late ( 11h iirc )and close early (16h) due to documentation preservation measures.

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You can't miss it if you go to Lisbon, Belém. It is in one of the wings of Mosteiro dos Jerónimos.

 

The archives are in another place though but not far, Cordoaria Nacional, roughly less than aclick away across the gardens but they open late ( 11h iirc )and close early (16h) due to documentation preservation measures.

shit shit shit........ in may i was in lisbon, in monoument to vazco da gama :(  :(  100 200 meters to mosteiro?  shit shit shit   well i have another excuse to go to Portugal B)

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The archives are excellent and the service is really good but the prices for anything other than studies and academic works ( proven ) are quite expensive.

 

That's a shame :( I've actually grown very fond of this ship. Probably my favourite out of the entire shipyard.

 

I might send them an email though.

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There we go boys:

 

 

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Information on how to obtain the plans was given, but let's say that it isn't really a bargain :P I will consider it though...

 

Extra. A new picture of the stern

 

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