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Portugese Fifth Rate Ulysses/Urania 1792


Sella

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Ulysses/Urania

44 or 36 (?) gun frigate

Portuguese

1792

 

 

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Need info on her!

 

 

EDIT: Deleted two photos that actually were from a more modern design.My apologies.But it still doesnt solve the mystery of her modern looks!

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Well the model is exhibited in the Portuguese museum of naval history and the description said she was portuguese so I don't see why she should be Sicilian :S I will try and link my sources when I get the chance

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So,from virtual visit of the portuguese museum,if you click down at the bottom "Seculo XVII", three models will appear and the Ulysses/Urania is the one at the back.

 

http://www.marinha.pt/Conteudos_Externos/visitas_virtuais/museu_marinha/index.html

 

Translation of the description using google translate:

 


The frigate " Ulysses " was built in Lisbon and launched to the water on 15 December 1792. This vessel , 44 parts, was built at the request of England, a booster station in 1793. Until 1804, he took part in numerous escort missions the maritime convoys , when it was the target of large batches , changing its name to " Urania ". In 1807 , was part of the squad that led the court of King John VI in Brazil, having sunk in the waters of Cape Verde on 5 February 1809. The model of the frigate " Ulysses ", which here is exposed , is a fine example of a large , occupying a prominent place in the central windows of this room.
 

 

 
From the "catalogo dos navios brigantinos":

Entry 171(using google translate): 
 
" Ulysses " (1792-1807) - Frigate of 36 pieces that was released to water Lisbon on 15 December 1792 . In 1804 he happened to be called Urania . He used the bodyguard and train service .
 

 

 
 

From: http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blogspot.gr/2011/01/navios-da-real-marinha-portuguesa-ii.html

 

 
Urania
Frigate
        Portuguese ship 5th class line, built at the shipyard of the navy arsenal in Lisbon, with one or two artillery deckes with 36 artillery pieces and with 200 to 300 men on board, launched on December 15, 1792 with name of 'Ulysses' and ready for service in the same year, he used the bodyguard and the train service, now has the name 'Urania' in 1804, out of service in 1807.

       Commanders

      1793-1794 - Captain of frigate José Gomes da Silva Telles, commander of the frigate Ulisses 2nd Division II Squadron of the Royal Ocean Fleet Navy in March 1793, the second station should be ready to follow the fate that the government give him until the end of March or early April 1793.

      1795-1796 - Captain of frigate-Daniel Thompson, Commander of the frigate 'Ulysses' 3rd Atlantic Fleet Division left the Tagus on December 25, 1795, escorting a convoy of merchant ships to America.

      1796-1797 - Captain of frigate-Daniel Thompson, Commander of the frigate 'Ulysses' of the 4th Division of the Royal Fleet Portuguese of Brazil that browsing from Bahia in Brazil, escorting a convoy of merchant ships, entered the Tagus on the morning of 23 July 1796.

      Armament

      1792-36 artillery pieces, 26 pieces of 18 pounds 10 pieces of 9 pounds
 

 

 

 

From: http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blogspot.gr/2015/08/a-evolucao-dos-navios-da-armada-real.html

 

 

 

 

Portuguese frigate of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries . Was built in the navy arsenal in Lisbon and launched to the water on 15 December 1792. He was armed with 44 mouths fire- when , in 1793 , was built -a request of our allies in britânicos- squad strengthening its naval forces in the western Mediterranean . Then he went to the Atlantic ocean waters , where, until 1804, ensured the protection of numerous naval convoys transiting between the coasts of Brazil and Europe. After having exposed to large batches (also in this year of 1804) , the Portuguese royal armed decided to change his name to " Urania ". In 1807 , this ship was integrated in the great Luso- British squadron which led to Brazil King João VI and his numerous court. It was reported lost in a shipwreck off the Cape Verde Islands on February 5, 1809 .

 

 

Plus all the images were titled Ulysses.

 

 

Update:

There also seems to be a corvette called Ulysses as well

 

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http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blogspot.gr/2011/01/navios-da-real-marinha-portuguesa-ii.html

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

Portuguese ship 6th grade line, built at the shipyard of the navy arsenal in Lisbon with an artillery deck with 28 artillery pieces and 200 men aboard , launched on 1796 and ready for service in the same year, 1804 was classified as Corvette , out of service in 1823 , was lost by sinking .  

 

 

 

 

 

There has to be some sort of mistake from that blog.It doesnt make sense

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Just for the sake of agument those two were the pictures that are from a different model.I didn't spot the differences of the hull shape and the stern at first:

 

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