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Vensejo/Port Mahon, spanish/british, 1797 - 1837, 18 guns

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Length of Gundeck   91' 5 ½"

Breadth                     25' 2"

Burthen                     276 5094

 

Gundeck                  18 British 6-Pounder

 

Plans: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84066.html

 

 

Do you know whether or not she is the Spanish Brig Vencejo (1797) :

- probably built at Port Mahon,

- captured by the British navy and renamed HMS Vincejo in 1799,

- then captured by the French in 1804 and renamed Victorine then Comte de Regnaud 

whose history can be read at : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Vincejo_(1799) ?

 

Great thread !!!!

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Don´t know what happened to her in british service, but that´s the Vencejo :)

 

And according to 'British Warships in the Age of Sail', the french did indeed capture and renamed her. But Victorine is mentioned, just 'Le Comte de Reginaud'

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The rigging of this ship is very impressive. A mixte of many rigging.

Strange... :)

The main feature of the sacoleve is the almost square sail with the diagonal mast. The rest of the rigging can vary, usually it is different from island to island or place to place :) It was mostly a matter of local tradition and geography

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This suggestion from LeBoiteux is really good looking. I mean its probably not fast or agile but maybe the newbs will love it for its frigate appearance.

 

La Belle

 

La Belle

(1680)

6-gun french barque longue

 

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(copyright)

 

Tonnage : 40-45

Length : 54 ft 4 in (16,56 m).

Beam : 14 ft 9 in (4,50 m)

Draft : 8 ft (2,4 m)

Expedition

Part of the disastrous expedition of René-Robert Cavelier de la Salle sent from France in 1684 to explore the mouth of Mississippi. Wrecked during a storm on the Texas banks. 

 

Monograph, plans, pictures, multimedia

http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/30-monographie-de-la-belle-barque-1680.html

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/4686-french-barque-longue-la-belle-1680-with-plans-updated-6215/

 

 

Ill give a vote for the USS Lee too because its adorable.

 

and the HMS Wolf to help the guys survive ganking easier.

 

Thats my 6/8/10 gun lineup. B)

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This suggestion from LeBoiteux is really good looking. I mean its probably not fast or agile but maybe the newbs will love it for its frigate appearance.

 

As a late-XVIIth century French long bark, La Belle has close links with XVIII-and-XIXth-century French Corvettes.  :)

See e. g.

https://books.google.fr/books?id=Q4uuCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=barque+longue+corvette&source=bl&ots=VGkTLOMsYx&sig=_upcivkdhMl4fXBp1O17KEocizc&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwih8eKDvvTLAhUBfRoKHbr0C6QQ6AEIMzAG#v=onepage&q=barque%20longue%20corvette&f=false

http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/61-monographie-de-la-creole-corvette-1823.html

"The corvette takes its place in our navy only beginning in 1696 when it is referred to as a "corvette or long bark." It appears in annual inventories until 1746 when the term "long bark" falls off and only the name "corvette"is retained."

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