Malachi Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Plans: Sheer and Body Plan for Kiel Stern and Head Sailplan (1801) Cross Section Dimensions: Length: 127' (danish) / 130' 10'' (imperial) Breadth: 36' (danish) / 37' 1'' (imperial) Depth in Hold: 17' 2'' (danish) / 17' 8'' (imperial) Draught Foreward 14' 2'' (imperial) Draught Aft 15' 2'' (imperial) Height of middle gunport above the water 6' 2'' (imperial) L/B Ratio 3,53 Armament: 26* danish 12-pounders 10* danish 4-pounders (later replaced by 12-pounder carronades) Designed by H. Gerner, probably Denmarks most eminent shipwright in the 18th century, Friderichsværn was one of seven ships of the Bornholm-class. Launched 1784 and captured by HMS Comus before the 2nd Battle of Copenhagen. Sold 1814. Other ships in class: Bornholm (1774) Kiel (1775) Moen (1777) St. Thomas (1779) Cronborg (1781) Det Store Belt (1782) Edited November 25, 2015 by Malachi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The ship looks rather pretty! But my god, the quality of those plans is amazing. May i inquire how you came in possession of these? The stamp on them look like an navy archive stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Are they sure they put enough sails on her? Bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Royal stunsails and staysails. Think they hate calm weather enough? And is it just me or is her rig enormous? The ratio of mainmast to LBP is greater than 1:1, and that's only measuring from the deck up to the royal yard. By comparison, Surprise's mast with royal pole and room for skysails is only 89% as long as the hull (according to GameLabs' new data in this subforum). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I've seen some other plans from the late 18th century / early 19th century with quite extraordinary rig sizes. I did some digging on two of them (a brig and a schooner, both English) and both were just that: plans. As far as I could figure out they were never build. So maybe, this one didn't make it to the building phase either? ~Brigand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The ship was indeed built and used. The danish Naval Officer Christian Wulff sailed aboard the frigate as a secondlieutenant in 1800. The ship was lost to the British navy in 1807. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) And is it just me or is her rig enormous? The ratio of mainmast to LBP is greater than 1:1, and that's only measuring from the deck up to the royal yard. By comparison, Surprise's mast with royal pole and room for skysails is only 89% as long as the hull (according to GameLabs' new data in this subforum). You can find a rather high ratio on many danish frigates, starting with Krabbe´s ships in the 1750s; interestingly, the L/B ratio usually was pretty modest, between 3.5 and 3.8. One of the many peculiarities of danish shipbuilding was that the navy recruited their ship designers from the naval officer corps, so I assume they knew what would work and what not in reality. But it does look enormous, yes For comparison, here´s the sailplan for the Bornhom, dated 1774: Edited November 25, 2015 by Malachi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Huh. Sort of funny, seeing as how often you read about British captains wanting masts cut down. And the Danes presumably weren't chasing everyone around all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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