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Navy List for anyone interested:

 

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Also, there's spar dimensions in the back of the book for many ships if anyone's interested.  No diagrams, dimensions only!

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Of those, the following have plans on Chapelle too:

 

Indepdence (Razee only)

Franklin (as designed and as built plans)

Guerriere/Java

United States (via President as-captured plans)

Constitution as built

Constellation as built

Macedonian

John Adams (not in Chapelle but I have a copy of it)

Cyane (but Chapelle put the wrong plan in, not the one the US captured)

New Orleans block ship

Hornet

Wasp (ii)

Frolic

Peacock (both original and rebuild)

Ontario

Erie (both original and rebuild)

Epervier

Spark

Chippewa/Saranac (possibly, unnamed plans that match them)

Oneida

Saratoga

Niagra

Lawrence

And various small gunboats, schooners, galleys, etc.

 

The two steam frigates listed are the abortive Demelogos by Fulton (New York) and the other an unstarted steam battery in Baltimore. Another was supposed to be started in Philly.

 

There are sail plans and additional spar dimensions through the book. The main spar dimensions in the back of the book are:

USS Albany, 1st class sloop, 1843 with ship rig, not bark

USS Argus, brig, 18 guns, 1803

USS Boston, frigate, 28 guns, 1799 (incomplete)

USS Boxer, schooner, 10 guns, 1831

USS Chesapeake, frigate, 36 guns, 1799 (two sets, 1800 and as captured by the British)

USS Congress, frigate, 36 guns, 1799

USS Congress, frigate, 44 guns, 1839

USS Constellation, frigate, 36 guns, 1797

USS Constitution, frigate, 44 guns, 1797 (spars dated 1803)

USS Cyane, ship sloop, 18 guns, 1815 (dimensions of 1818)

USS Delaware, ship of the line, 74 guns, 1817 (dimensions dated 1822)

USS Franklin, ship of the line, 74 guns, 1815 (dimensions dated 1817)

USS Grampus, schooner, 10 guns, 1821

USS Guerriere, frigate, 44 guns, 1813

USS Hornet, brig, 16 guns, 1805

USS Independence, raze, 54 guns, 1836 (incomplete, 1838)

USS John Adams, ship sloop, 18 guns, 1830 (dimensions dated 1835)

USS Lexington, storeship, 1840 (dimensions dated 1844)

HMS Macedonian, frigate, 38 guns, 1812 (spars and sails as taken off, 1818)

USS New York, frigate, 36 guns, 1800

USS Pennsylvania, ship of the line, 120 guns, 1837

USS Philadelphia, frigate, 36 guns, 1799 (extensive, from the records of the investigation into her loss)

USS Germantown, corvette, 1844

USS Jamestown, corvette, 1844

USS Plymouth, corvette, 1844

USS Portsmouth, corvette, 1844

USS St. Marys, corvette, 1844

USS Saratoga, corvette, 1844

USS Potomac, frigate, 44 guns, 1822 (dimensions dated 1839)

USS President, frigate, 44 guns, 1800 (two sets)

USS Prometheus, hermaphrodite schooner, 1814

USS Revenge, schooner, 1807

USS Raleigh, frigate, 32 guns, 1776

USS Syren, brig, 16 guns, 1803 (dimensions 1807)

USS United States, frigate, 44 guns, 1797 (dimensions dated 1807 and a set from 1815)

USS Vincennes, 2nd class ship sloop, 18 guns, 1826

USS Vixen, brig, 12 guns, 1804 (dimensions dated 1806)

USS Wasp, ship sloop 16 guns, 1806

USS Yorktown, 3rd class ship sloop, 16 guns, 1838

Hassan Bashaw, Algerian tribute brig, 1798

USS Peacock, ship sloop, 18 guns, 1828

USS Washington, revenue brig, 1846

 

 

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On 11/17/2016 at 8:10 AM, Wind said:

Dumping some plans

 

Those are redrawn from Chapelle. He did the St Lawrence drawing based on plans for Brandywine. The Santee/Sabine drawing is actually only for Santee, which had more vertical stern and stem. For Sabine, it needs the same bow and stern rake and mast placement as the St Lawrence.

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On 23/11/2015 at 10:15 PM, Haratik said:

Where can I find detailed blueprints of modern ships?

 

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Its not often I get the chance to place something significant here outside of the Venetian ships thread, but I posted these to the private tester's forums but figured they were important enough to place here as well so can be seen and shared amongst everyone. I hope you all enjoy these, they are the data taken from the 1929 restoration of the USS constitution specifically the information about the dimensions of her masts. :)

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7 hours ago, Haratik said:

Discovered these last night:

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I've been through that archive more than a few times. There's also inboard and outboard profiles of those ships, plus the 138-gun Pennsylvania, Dale sloop, Boston sloop, Dolphin brig, Plymouth and Germantown sloops, as well as details of several steamers hulls, sail plans, and engines. Unfortunately, little is useful. All the ships presented are post-war construction and highly advanced. Even if they fit within the letter of the law, I don't know if they fit the /spirit/ of the game era. Particularly that they would be much more powerful than anything around in their size category. Even most of the sloops were carrying 24 and 32-pdr cannons (not just carronades either), not to mention the double-banked 32-pdr frigates.

 

Here is an English-translated link, by the way. http://www.finemodelships.com/ship-plans/plans-Atlas-du-Genie-Maritime.htm

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I recently found this stern carvings plan for USS Hornet done by Benjamin Latrobe in 1811. Very few of these survived and it's a really exciting find. It's probably pretty representative of the level of carvings they had and really paints a different picture of the smaller American ships compared to the plain, austure plans we have for them. Hornet wasn't a particularly special ship, as far as qualifying for more detailed carvings. It's something anyone modeling smaller American naval schooners/brigs/sloops should keep in mind.

 

As Latrobe was architect of the capital at the time, I'm pretty sure the only reason this survived is that he moved to Pittsburgh during the War of 1812, so it wasn't burned with the rest of the archives when the British came, and then after the war (when he was rebuilding DC) it came back into the Architect's office's archives. Because it remained there and didn't join the rest of the naval archives, it then survived the burning of the Gosport Naval Yard in 1861 when the Confederates took it. Some time in the post-WWII era it was transferred to the Library of Congress and eventually digitized, which is how I found it.

 

The original drawing is just half of the stern (plus two collumns from his work on the Capital building), I took it and flipped it to create a full stern. Note the 17 stars representing the states of the Union (Louisiana, #18, was admitted just a year later in 1812), and the three-dimensional eagle detailed in the center. The second image is how Chapelle depicts Wasp/Hornet's stern.

 

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