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12-gun, unknown, 1760 (merchant)

20-gun, Den Arend, 1768 corvet

20-gun, Unknown, 1780 Corvet

26-gun, Dageraat, 1808

32-gun, De Atlas, unknown (merchant)

42-gun, Braave, 1800

46-gun, unknown, 1817

52-gun, unknown, 1815

64-gun, Rotterdam, 1741

72-gun, Stadt en Lande, 1790

80-gun, Chattam, 1799

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Now that´s a nice ship. And a beautiful plan with a useful resolution. May I ask where you got it from? All the plans from Maritiem Digital are 'just' 3000*x pixels? :)

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Now that´s a nice ship. And a beautiful plan with a useful resolution. May I ask where you got it from? All the plans from Maritiem Digital are 'just' 3000*x pixels? :)

Provincial archives, the quality of the plans there are simply amazing.Quantity is rather low, but im slowly getting into the search^^

 

Do you have plans on this ship?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_ship_Delft_(1783)I heard they were going to build a replica in the Netherlands. It's looks amazing. V6DdZh6.jpg

I don't, unfortunaly. Yet the building of the replica has been in progress for quite some time now, you can always try to contact them for a copy of the plans.

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You guys are so lucky to have so easy access to plans!I'm jealous!

 

Too bad most of the ships here built by experience and not any plans.Finding even a drawing or painting is a pain.

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I think we definitely need the addition of a common Dutch pinas, a larger dedicated trade ship is much needed. Here is a list of them. Below some models made in blender.

 

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While cool dynd, i think those ships might be a little too old for this game

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Olav raises a fair point. Whilst some of the ships have been been towards the end of the 17th century, it's design mostly died at the beginning of the 18th.

This also goes for the Fluit.

 

However, there are quite some nice plans/ drawings:

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Lovely ships, for sure!

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Up to the devs to decide, isn't it ? Current time frame is... etc. (you know the following words  ;))

Besides, is design/building date that important for traders when it comes to so lovely design ?

I love those ships !!!

They can even give them a small speed buff in OW. I wouldn't snitch. :)

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Don't get me wrong, i would love to have these ingame.

I personally dont care if they would be slower/weak/less maneuverable or all of the above, since i would purely sail them for their asthetics.

 

But (yes, here it comes) with the rejection of the 'Zeven Provincien' (1664-1694) i doubt that they are willing to accept earlier ships, even if its just by 6 years from the prefered timeframe.

As that ships is one of the most iconic dutch ones to have sailed the seas, and rejected, im afraid we wont see beauty of this kind in this game.

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Anyone read this document? http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/pdf/NL-HaNA_4.MST.ead.pdf

 

There are a lot of Dutch ships in this document, you can use the numbers from the ships to search the database of the "Nationaal Archief".

Here is a list for example http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/ead/index/eadid/4.MST/node/c01%3A0.c02%3A0.c03%3A0./open/c01:0.c02:0.c03:0.#c01:0.c02:0.

 

If you want me to post individual ships just let me know, because this is quite overwhelming.

 

Ps. Also it is all in Dutch...

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Good find.

If you look closely into the list you can see the relevant ships have already been posted. Quite a lot of ships in that archieve are too late.

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Anyone read this document? http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/pdf/NL-HaNA_4.MST.ead.pdf

 

There are a lot of Dutch ships in this document, you can use the numbers from the ships to search the database of the "Nationaal Archief".

Here is a list for example http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/ead/index/eadid/4.MST/node/c01%3A0.c02%3A0.c03%3A0./open/c01:0.c02:0.c03:0.#c01:0.c02:0.

 

If you want me to post individual ships just let me know, because this is quite overwhelming.

 

Ps. Also it is all in Dutch...

Great find.   Don't have this bookmark yet.

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This may be in the wrong thread but are fire ships going to be added in the game as well?  These terror ships have been used all through the age of sail. In the Anglo-Dutch wars many were used and both van der Velde Jr. and Sr. painted these ships.

 

Presently I am reading a book "Fireship - The Terror Weapon of the Age of Sail". By Peter Kirsh.

 

I can definitely get the names of the British and the Dutch. David Antscherl's book 'The Royal Navy Fireship COMET of 1783 is a monograph with 6 sheets of plans.

http://www.seawatchbooks.com/114002

 

Marcus

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Fireships are under debate and consideration. Thing with fireships is that they have massive damage potential, which makes them prone to being OP and meta breaking.

 

So, if you have some proper implementation suggestions, they are always welcome :)

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Fireships are under debate and consideration. Thing with fireships is that they have massive damage potential, which makes them prone to being OP and meta breaking.

 

So, if you have some proper implementation suggestions, they are always welcome :)

Or conversely, they are useless if you implement them realistically.

 

Because the crew has to abandon ship a few hundred yards out, and in-game fleets have no reason to sit around at anchor. If we get complex ports with inferior fleets camping in the PBs, then fire ships will be essential.

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Or conversely, they are useless if you implement them realistically.

 

Because the crew has to abandon ship a few hundred yards out, and in-game fleets have no reason to sit around at anchor. If we get complex ports with inferior fleets camping in the PBs, then fire ships will be essential.

Most definitely true.

If you look at the amount of fireships in ratio to the effective damage they caused, weren't that effective. Yet used to break formation or forcing opponents to maneuver can be an interesting play.

 

They would, as you say, be an interesting addition to port battles.

Attack fleets would consist of SOL(the fighting), frigs(flanking&protection mortars and troop transport), mortars(attacking forts), *troop transport*(assaulting forts), armed indiamen(carrying raided resources), fireships(break defense position).

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Warships - Ships of the line

44-gun, Beschermer, 1735, SOL


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Links:
http://i.imgur.com/kmw97tI.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 88

 

46-gun, Monnikendam, 1782, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/NZLc8mb.jpg

 

46-gun, unknown, 1760, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/23fRpY6.jpg

 

46-gun, Waterland, 1746, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/2Bcnh9u.jpg

 

50-gun, Hilverbeek, 1729, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/JesJ4vh.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 108

50-gun, Leiderdorp, 1731, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/K80ZncC.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 123

50-gun, Westerdijkshorn, 1728, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/qX5wzbY.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 172

 

52-gun, Brederode, 1731, SOL


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Links:
http://i.imgur.com/ryNH8j3.png
http://i.imgur.com/8nEMdNV.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 89

 

52-gun, Boekenroode, 1733, SOL


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Links:
http://i.imgur.com/qMHo0Nc.png
http://i.imgur.com/n45rGWQ.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 18-19

 

54-gun, Prinses Frederika Louisa Wilhelmina, 1779, SOL

 

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/BD8veqw.jpg

 

56-gun, Beschermer, 1783, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/I80KmBO.jpg

 

56-gun, Leewenhorst & Edam, 1742, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/O5dpNgS.png

 

56-gun, Twickel, 1726 (missing hull-lines, retrievable from similar ships), SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/9ztitq6.jpg

 

58-gun, Dortrecht, 1739, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/B2QIg1D.jpg

 

58-gun, Schiedam, 1745, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/bGZWaG7.jpg

 

62-gun, Provincie van Utrecht, 1729, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/bBKs1Dw.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 56

 

64-gun, Rotterdam, 1741, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/26sXqh6.png

 

64-gun, unknown, 1760, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/f4Vl4pd.jpg

 

68-gun, Admiraal Tromp, 1806, SOL


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Links:
http://i.imgur.com/B4fuVRR.png
http://i.imgur.com/FQrBw2k.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 16

 

Also known as: 'Kortenaer'
68-gun, Cortenaar, 1795, SOL


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Links:
http://i.imgur.com/3NYEPfM.png
http://i.imgur.com/03prVfM.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 20

 

68-gun, Doggersbank, 1798, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/mWOPecg.png

http://i.imgur.com/aSyn0um.png

 

Source:

NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 21

 

68-gun, Neptunus, 1798, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/T1TbrWQ.jpg

 

68-gun, Oldenbarnevelt, 1796, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/fJxHt1E.png

http://i.imgur.com/moLRvNi.png

 

Source:

NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 44

 

68-gun, Pieter Paulus, 1797, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/kxIhwra.png

http://i.imgur.com/um92Rd3.png

 

68-gun, Pluto, 1798, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/H0YJMq1.jpg

 

68-gun, unknown, 1807, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/Y5UQbUI.jpg

 

 

72-gun, Stadt en Lande, 1790, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/FP0Wsdu.jpg

 

74-gun, Haarlem, 1736, SOL


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Links:
http://i.imgur.com/SuvIFIB.png
http://i.imgur.com/YWMMBDy.png

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 22

 

76-gun, Prins Maurits, 1783, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/6z5rTYT.png

http://i.imgur.com/Mi1c8bh.png

 

Source:

NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 45

 

76-gun, Washington, 1795, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/g4Hmoai.png

http://i.imgur.com/eA9nmEt.png

 

Source:

NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 59

 

78-gun, De Maas, 1728 (missing hull-lines, retrievable from similar ships), SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/0h2VO7Y.jpg

 

80-gun, Chattam, 1799, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/Cj059jS.png

 

80-gun, De Leeuw, 1804, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/kkEwHR0.jpg

 

80-gun, Wreker, 1797, SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/IteOKh6.png

http://i.imgur.com/zHu4L8F.png

 

Source:
NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 33

 

82-gun, unknown, 1800, SOL


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Link:
http://i.imgur.com/HW3UzKi.jpg

 

90-gun, Admiraal de Ruyter, 1808 SOL

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Link:

http://i.imgur.com/2jffHC5.png

http://i.imgur.com/t6sEsv1.png

 

Source:

NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 13-14

 

Nice blueprints mate specially the ones arround the 1800s i like it

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plz put such stuff into spoilers, this is unnesesary spam

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Nice work steel, one qeustion though, could you take a look at my favorite ship, I don't have buildplans for it but, I am pretty sure the dutch scheepvaartmuseum (Naval Museum) has.

 

Its the: Aemilia, a Dutch 57-gun ship of the line build in 1632.

She was under personal command of Admiraal Maarten Tromp in the battle of Downs.

I hope this ship is not to old for the game .

 

She has pretty good armament for her age:

  • 57 guns:
  • Gundeck: 4 × 36-pounders, 11 × 24-pounders, 9 × 18-pounders
  • Upper gundeck: 3 × 18-pounders, 21 × 12-pounders
  • Quarterdeck, Forecastle & Poop deck: 9 × 6-pounders

 

The additional info can be found on her wikipage.

 

Cheers,

Bram Luijken.

 

(P.S. look at my profile picture for a good painting of it.)

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1632? Extremely unlikey that there are plans for her. Earliest (usable) ship plans are from the 1680s or 1690s.

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1632? Extremely unlikey that there are plans for her. Earliest (usable) ship plans are from the 1680s or 1690s.

I have seen more ship plans from the late 80-year war ships, I know that our museums have them stored somewhere from when I was there a few years ago.  ;)

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