LeBoiteux Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) San Michele Arcangelo (?) (St. Michael the Archangel) Venetian 40 to 56-gun 2-deck frigate 1749 - 1774 http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/collezioni/collezione_0083.html General characteristics (1 Venetian piede = 0,3 meter = 12 inches) Length (piedi) : 128,85 Keel (piedi) : 110 Beam (piedi) : 35 Draft (piedi) : 16,5 Height keel to upper deck (piedi) : 27,50 Armament (1 Venetian lb = 488 grams) : Fregate Grossa version (40-gun) : 20 x 30 lbs + 20 x 14 lbs (deck) Could be easily modified in a Venetian "2-rate" (56-gun) : 24 x 30 lbs (battery) + 24 x 14 lbs (deck) et 8 x 12 lbs (quarterdeck). Sisterships of the San Michele Ship-class : San Michel Archangelo (1749-1774) Giglio d'Oro (1749-1769) Concordia (1767-1793) Used in combat, coast patrolling and spare mast transport to levantine bases. Source : http://www.veneziamuseo.it/ARSENAL/schede_arsenal/fregate.htm http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/916144/Venetian%20Large%20Frigates http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/html/ships_1667-1797.html Thanks, Wagram and LatoucheTréville, for your help ! Edited October 26, 2015 by LeBoiteux 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Unnamed Venetian 40(?)-gun frigate XVIII-th century http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/collezioni/collezione_0083.html Thanks Wagram for your help ! Edited October 24, 2015 by LeBoiteux 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Unnamed Venetian 28-gun Frigate XVIII-th century http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/collezioni/collezione_0083.html Thanks Wagram for your help ! Edited October 24, 2015 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Unnamed Venetian Frigate XVIII-th century http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/collezioni/collezione_0083.html Thanks Wagram for your help ! Edited October 24, 2015 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Unnamed Venetian, 1757 Light cargo 8-gun Frigate ("Fregatone") http://www.internetculturale.it/jmms/iccuviewer/iccu.jsp?id=oai%3Awww.internetculturale.sbn.it%2FTeca%3A20%3ANT0000%3AIT-PD0158-SCAFF_II_A_34_68&mode=all&teca=MagTeca+-+ICCU A Fregatone is a light venetian cargo frigate, used in the Adriatic Sea. Thanks Wagram for your help ! On Sella22' s express request . Edited October 24, 2015 by LeBoiteux 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Unnamed Venetian 60-gun 4th-Rate 1757 http://www.internetculturale.it/jmms/iccuviewer/iccu.jsp?id=oai%3Awww.internetculturale.sbn.it%2FTeca%3A20%3ANT0000%3AIT-PD0158-SCAFF_II_A_34_81&mode=all&teca=MagTeca+-+ICCU Edited October 24, 2015 by LeBoiteux 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Mirny (Mирный, Peaceful) Russian exploration 20-gun Sloop-of-war Formerly named Ladoga, then refitted for exploration purposes and renamed 1819, 530 t. The Vostok and Mirny in Antartica Length : 36.6 m (120.1 ft)Beam : 9.15 m (30.0 ft)Depth of hold : 4.6 m (15.1 ft)Armament : 6 × 120 mm (carronade) + 14 × 76 mm Her voyage With the Vostok (see http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7306-player-ship-selection-1st-half-2016/?p=139853), she took part of the second Russian circumnavigation of the globe (1819-1821), led by Fabian Gottlieb von Bellingshausen, which discovered the land of Antartica in 1820. Plan Source : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1xK8yroHPifU0FLdm42RFBJb2M&usp=sharing&tid=0B1xK8yroHPifWTBoTXRidGQ3RDg More plans (rigging...) https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1xK8yroHPifU0FLdm42RFBJb2M&usp=sharing&tid=0B1xK8yroHPifWTBoTXRidGQ3RDg http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/3575-russian-navy-azov-74-vostok-24-mercury-20-poltava-5-goto-predestinatsia-58-mirny-20-three-hierarchs-66/page-1#entry70007 Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Gottlieb_von_Bellingshausen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirny_(sloop-of-war) Edited October 25, 2015 by LeBoiteux 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Spanish Galleon 1731 (merchant vessel) 22 guns x 18 lbs, 22 x 14 lbs, 6 x 10 lbs Crew: 460 http://www.cuervas-mons.com/images/GaleriaNSPilar/index.htm 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Spanish Galleon 1731 (merchant vessel) 22 guns x 18 lbs, 22 x 14 lbs, 6 x 10 lbs Crew: 460 http://www.cuervas-mons.com/images/GaleriaNSPilar/index.htm We need plans, not just pictures. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 plans are in the Nuestra senora El Pillar thread 50 or 60gun ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Federico de Gravina y N Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Santa Ana class 112 guns spanish ship http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7118-santa-ana-class-112-guns-spanish-ship/ The Santa Ana´s twin Principe de Asturias 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Santa Ana class 112 guns spanish ship http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7118-santa-ana-class-112-guns-spanish-ship/ Spanish Galleon 1731 (merchant vessel) 22 guns x 18 lbs, 22 x 14 lbs, 6 x 10 lbs Crew: 460 http://www.cuervas-mons.com/images/GaleriaNSPilar/index.htm The Santa Ana´s twin Principe de Asturias Etc. Mr Cavero, is it a running gag ? We need plans, not just pictures. Thanks. Here are some Spanish plans as a starting place to search : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79892.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81587.htmlhttp://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81320.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81094.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81740.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79891.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79833.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80832.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81586.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80554.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81115.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81104.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80545.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80957.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80958.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81127.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80547.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/80454.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79962.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79963.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79961.html Edited November 7, 2015 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Le Fleuron french 64 because dat stern. http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/3293-le-fleuron-1729-french-3rd-rate-with-plans/ 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Fama Venetian 66-gun Frigate (1784) All the info here: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7685-venetian-ships/?p=144354 Edited December 3, 2015 by Henry d'Esterre Darby Fix broken link. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Unknown Venetian 16+ (?)gun Polacca/Polacre middle 18th century Info:http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7685-venetian-ships/?p=144433 Edited December 3, 2015 by Henry d'Esterre Darby Fixed broken link. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Leon Trionfante Venetian Venetian 1st rate 70 or 80 guns (1716) Info:http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7685-venetian-ships/?p=144494 Edited December 3, 2015 by Henry d'Esterre Darby Fix broken link. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Dannebroge - Danish LineShip, 1710 I all ready made a very detailed post about this ship so i will juust link to that :=) http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/4185-dannebroge-danish-lineship-1710/?hl=dannebroge Plz add 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) San Giovanni ("St. john") Maltese 64-gun 3rd Rate, 1796 (Contribution by Wagram - Thank you !) Captured by the French at the surrender of Malta (1798) and renamed Athénien or L'Athénienne. Renamed HMS Athenian by the British in 1801. Wrecked in 1806.. Dimensions & tons: 163'3", 132' x 44'9" x 19'8". 1411 89/94. Men : 491. Guns : GD 26 x 20, UD 26 x 18, QD 2 x 9 + 8 x 24 * [carronades], FC 2 x 9 + 4 x 24* [carronades]. Comments (in french)Le plan ("taken off") du vaisseau HMS Athenian, ex-Athénien (selon Demerliac) ou L'Athénienne (selon Lyon) français, ex-Saint Jean ou San Giovanni maltais (Lyon, Sailing Navy Ship List, p.240) Commentaire de Lyon:Athenian 1800-1806 (French L'Athénienne taken 1798 from the Knights of St. John at Malta as Saint Jean/San Giovanni [70] building 1796. Malta) 64.Dimensions & tons: 163'3", 132' x 44'9" x 19'8". 1411 89/94.Men: 491. Guns: GD 26 x 20, UD 26 x 18, QD 2 x 9 + 8 x 24 * [carronades], FC 2 x 9 + 4 x 24* [carronades]. Taken at the surrender of Malta; 27.10.1806 wrecked off Sicily. L'armement paraît être celui des Anglais. Selon Demerliac, Nomenclature 1792-1800, p.64, N°338, le vaisseau fut pris sur cale et lancé en décembre 1799 seulement: port: 1200 tx, déplacement en charge: environ 2300 tx. Longueur: 156 (quille: 140) x 42 x 20'2" et 19'6"/20'6". Off. + 600 hommes. Armement 64/70 canons: 26 xx, 26/28 xii?, 12/16 petit calibre Other sources : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15025 gives 1789 as building date. Unknown Third rate ship-of-the-line (Mid 18th century). A contemporary model of a vessel of the order of St. John https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Third_rate_ship-of-the-line_20100306-2.JPG Edited November 14, 2015 by LeBoiteux 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 HMS Bounty (formerly Bethia) 1784 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 A quick reminder about the requirements for ship nomination posts: 1 ship per post only submit ships for which building plans are available any additional views (models, paintings, photographs?, etc) are a definite plus. Other than that: if you have any other ships you would like to nominate, now is the time! Because my guess is that the Player ship selection 1st Half 2016 nomination round is going to close sooner rather than later. The next step will be the first round of voting. ~Brigand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Spanish Galleon 1731 (merchant vessel) 22 guns x 18 lbs, 22 x 14 lbs, 6 x 10 lbs Crew: 460 http://www.cuervas-mons.com/images/GaleriaNSPilar/index.htm Plans: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Ares(Aris) Greek brig 16 or 12 guns (1807) All of the info:http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/6241-5th-6th-rates-collection-with-plans/page-4#entry144850 Edited December 3, 2015 by Henry d'Esterre Darby Fix broken link. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Storman Danish 4th Rate 44 guns (1703) Her info:http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7650-stormandanish-4th-rate/ 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) 24*18-pounders 12*6-pounders Length p/p: 137' (danish feet) breadth : 36' 6' Danish frigate project by F. Krabbe, dated 1770, not built. Like Chapman´s big privateers (ANM, plate XXXI, XXXIII), it features an unusually heavy armarment for it´s time (France and England started building the first heavy frigates in the late 1770s/early 1780s). Another interesting particularity is the presence of a flush deck. As with all of Krabbe´s designs, the hull shape shows a substantial french influence. Edited November 17, 2015 by Malachi 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) 26*18-pounders 10*6-pounders Length p/p: 138' 6' (danish feet) Breadth: 36' 8' Danish 18-pounder frigate concept, this time by R. Phil, dated 1808, not built. Like Hohlenberg´s ships, it has a very narrow stern and a V-shaped hull, not a very common feature for frigates until the 1820s (besides Forfait´s ships and it´s french and british derivates) The text says it´s been designed with the 'nye arimetisk Constructions Methode', which I assume is Chapman´s parabola method. Edited November 17, 2015 by Malachi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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