Malachi Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) As much as I hate to quote myself, Bungee That´s most probably the french merchant ship Gros Ventre ('Big Belly') of 1766. Same designer as the Belle Poule, by the way: Leon-Michel Guignance. And the Concorde-class Hermione of 1779 was designed by Henri Chevillard sr. as far as I know. Edited October 2, 2015 by Malachi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surcouf Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Name in setting construction: le Gros-ventre Date 1766-1779 Built by Léon Michel Guignace (Plan by Jean-Joseph Ginoux) Constructed in Bayonne Data: Length x beam x moulded depht 112' x 25' x 13'3" 36.40 m x 13 m x 4.30 m 400tx Artillery of origin: 10 to 16-gun of the 6bl Sistre ship = la Tamponne Model : http://5500.forumactif.org/f36-le-gros-ventre-1766-plans-gerard-delacroix http://modelisme.arsenal.free.fr/artdumodelisme/Le%20Gros%20Ventre/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 ohwell.. I did see your post but didnt realize the writing my apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Connor Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Every other nation used converted merchantmen and tired warships as naval transports, only the french seem to have used these lovely frigate-built gaberres, purpose intended as transports but with the appearance and speed of a real frigate. A little smaller than the Belle Poule, 120ft Imperial compared to 141ft, but very fine lines. With no need to be a stable gunnery platform or carry heavy guns the hull is just 26ft 7in wide, giving a length to beam ratio of 4.48:1 (most frigates are about 4:1). Armed with 16 6lb guns and about 70 crew, she does not have the capacity of an Indiaman but makes up for it with speed. Lovely ship that I'm very much looking forward to sailing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestan de Lioncourt Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Well.. At first glance I would have bet all I had to give that she was a downgraded Belle Poule. Her lines and whole appearance look really, really close to each other. So I went ahead and researched about those two ship. And suddenly I got the right clue. Léon Guignace was indeed the designer of both of these two beautiful vessels. He was a genious shipdesigner. L'Hermione is also designed by him. A superb architect I may add. In conclution I may have lost my bet but I wasnt off too far L'hermione is a "Concorde class" Frigate. Concorde Class was designed by Pierre and Henri Chevillard, not Leon Guignace. Edited October 3, 2015 by Lestan de Lioncourt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 well. Sure enough I didnt doublecheck what I found. But why the heck would wikipedia link me to one of the most famous ships through this man? Interesting. Maybe someone should correct that. (looking at both shiptypes BP and Hermione there are very destinctive differences in their hulldesigns thats for sure) pardon me that mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Every other nation used converted merchantmen and tired warships as naval transports, only the french seem to have used these lovely frigate-built gaberres, purpose intended as transports but with the appearance and speed of a real frigate. A little smaller than the Belle Poule, 120ft Imperial compared to 141ft, but very fine lines. With no need to be a stable gunnery platform or carry heavy guns the hull is just 26ft 7in wide, giving a length to beam ratio of 4.48:1 (most frigates are about 4:1). Armed with 16 6lb guns and about 70 crew, she does not have the capacity of an Indiaman but makes up for it with speed. Lovely ship that I'm very much looking forward to sailing. Cool beans. The game could use a large merchant ship that is as fast as frigates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Chapman´s Architectura Navalis has another one, Le Chameau ('Camel') of 1744. Like the Renommée, she was designed under supervision of Blaise Ollivier and famous for her sailing qualities. And she was huge, 150 feet lbp with a length to breadth ratio of 4.7. Chapman most probably copied the design proposal, in reality she carried 24 8-pounders and 12 6-pounders. The right side of this drawing could show her stern decorations: Edited October 4, 2015 by Malachi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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