Malachi Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Myrmidon 1781 Dimensions: Length of Gundeck 113' 9 ½" Length of Keel 94' 2" Breadth 31' 0" Depth in Hold 10' 2" Burthen 481 15⁄94 Armarment: Upper Gun Deck 20 6-pounder Quarterdeck 2 3-pounder (to be replaced by two 12-pounder carronades later on) Hull coppered in August 1781. Named for the warlike race who followed Achilles in the Trojan War, the first H.M.S. Myrmidon to serve in the Royal Navy was a sixth rate of 481 tons built at Deptford and laid down in November 1779. Launched on 9th June 1781, she measured 114 feet in length with a 31 foot beam and was based on the lines of H.M.S. Amazon, a French frégate légère (La Panthère) captured in 1745 and assimilated into the fleet on account of her particularly useful design. Mounting 22 guns - 20-6pdrs. on her upper deck and 2-3pdrs. on her quarterdeck - and carrying a crew of 160, she was not completed until the American War of Independence was drawing close and thus saw only limited service. Despite the Navy's needs in the French Wars, she was hulked for harbour service in 1798 and broken up in April 1811. Six other (slighly smaller and more cost-effective) ships based on her lines were built, Echo (1782), Rattler (1783), Calypso (1783), Brisk (1784), Nautilus (1784), Scorpion (1785). All these ships share a rather uncommon feature, the french-style stern which looks like a direct copy of the stern of the Panthère (or the Renommée, her 'bigger sister'). I orderd her surprisingly complete plans from the NMM, let´s see when they´ll arrive 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir John Jervis Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 PoTBS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 PoTBS... not a bit. POTBS' Myrmidon was our Renomee. This one's only parallel to potbs is its name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 PoTBS... Similar , but not the same ship. Potbs had 2 ships, one was customized by 3d modeler and could actually use this stern. Take a look at these ships Myrmidon and Cursed Blade (Top). Top image matches the blueprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 Well, the Myrmidon is an almost 100% identical bitish copy of the Amazon/Panthère (captured 1745), which basically was a scaled down 20-gun version of the Renommée/Siréne. That being said, I forgot that we´re going to get the Renommée ingame so the Myrmidon would be a bit redundant. A fine looking ship, though. And a very good and fast sailor, too, according to her sailing report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) On 10/07/2015 at 11:53 AM, Malachi said: Six other (slighly smaller and more cost-effective) ships based on her lines were built, Echo (1782), Rattler (1783), Calypso (1783), Brisk (1784), Nautilus (1784), Scorpion (1785). HMS Echo 1782 British 6-pdr Corvette 22 guns Armament : GD : 16 x 6-pdr QD : 4 x 12-pdr (carronade) fc : 2 x 12-pdr (carronade) Sources : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83629.html https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_class&id=242 Edited October 25, 2017 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) On 10/07/2015 at 11:53 AM, Malachi said: Myrmidon 1781 I orderd her surprisingly complete plans from the NMM, let´s see when they´ll arrive Is there more than : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83622.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83624.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83623.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83625.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83621.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83818.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83819.html The decorated stern ? The figurehead ? Edited October 26, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Decoration of the sterns of the French Panthère (1744) and HMS Echo (1782) and her sister ships : La Panthère HMS Echo They copied the decoration 40 years after the building of the original. Surprizing !! @Malachi Some thoughts to share about the paint schemes of British ships and differences with the French ones ? What about the figureheads ? Sources : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83629.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83819.html Edited October 27, 2017 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Drawings of the decoration of La Panthère (1743) by Caffieri, p. 132 : https://spectrum.library.concordia.ca/973827/1/Portanier_MA_S2012.pdf The small differences between Caffieri's artistic drawings and the British technical plans are interesting. Edited October 27, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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