Arranged Weekend Trafalgars anyone???

[Captain BlackVane]

Usually every Saturday around 1 pm PST or 4 pm EST

Great thanks man!

[Rekab]

Hi, I am not someone that complains much, but one of the rules of this battle was to not attack anyone on the way to the battle. Last Saturday I was on my way to the battle (only 3 minutes away from the meeting point) and was attacked by 4 pirates and ended up losing my Constitution (which for some reason I later couldn't repair at port although I had 5 durabilities, not sure why). Anyways, I got very mad at this because even though I asked nicely at the beginning, they didn't let me go (they did not sign in the spreadsheet so they had the right to attack me as it is an Open World). I ended up getting sunk and bought a new ship (a renomee) and joined the first battle. Not that much of a deal. 

 

I left after the first battle and disconnected. Just now I went to watch the video of the battle on youtube (from Alex Hekkink), and I also saw the second battle that took place that day. In that second video I realized that 2 of the pirates that attacked me before the battle actually joined the second battle. It is against the rules to attack someone going to the battle and then joining, so I would like to ask to leave the following pirates out of the battles from now on: 

 

- Cptn Gamover

- yazzus

 

Thank you.

[Ronan]

 

 

Do you really expect pirates to be honorable? Not surprised that they attacked you.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Ronan

[Rekab]

Do you really expect pirates to be honorable? Not surprised that they attacked you.

 

As I said, they are in their own right to attack me or anyone whenever they want as it is an Open World. I am just asking to exclude them from future Trafalgars as they did not follow the rules for this specific battle.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Rekab

[mouse of war]

Hi, I am not someone that complains much, but one of the rules of this battle was to not attack anyone on the way to the battle. Last Saturday I was on my way to the battle (only 3 minutes away from the meeting point) and was attacked by 4 pirates and ended up losing my Constitution (which for some reason I later couldn't repair at port although I had 5 durabilities, not sure why). Anyways, I got very mad at this because even though I asked nicely at the beginning, they didn't let me go (they did not sign in the spreadsheet so they had the right to attack me as it is an Open World). I ended up getting sunk and bought a new ship (a renomee) and joined the first battle. Not that much of a deal. 

 

I left after the first battle and disconnected. Just now I went to watch the video of the battle on youtube (from Alex Hekkink), and I also saw the second battle that took place that day. In that second video I realized that 2 of the pirates that attacked me before the battle actually joined the second battle. It is against the rules to attack someone going to the battle and then joining, so I would like to ask to leave the following pirates out of the battles from now on: 

 

- Cptn Gamover

- yazzus

 

Thank you.

 

I definitely think players who do this should be excluded from the Trafalgar but you would need to provide some sort of evidence

[Rekab]

I definitely think players who do this should be excluded from the Trafalgar but you would need to provide some sort of evidence

 

That is fair. I am going to ask Oleski (or Ragnar Lodbrok 2 as he is known in OW) to confirm what happened. He entered the battle after they attacked me and asked what happened, so he saw who the pirates were. I will try to contact him and ask him to post here.

[Jacques de Montagne]

I do not care if people sign up beforehand or not, by showing up they recognise the rules. Without a temporary truce there are no organised battles. Unless such an agressor compensates and apologises, he is excluded from attending these community events in the future.

 

We have zero tolerance for drama here.

 

Please provide me with greater detail in a PM Rekab and others who were there. Then we will form a decision.

 

 

 

The details about the next battle will be given out soon. I will not be able to attend next saturday.

[Booyaah]

I proposed an idea I thought would be fun at the end of last week's battle.  Does anyone want to do an all 5th rate battle at a different time and port?  It could even be on Sunday, maybe something a little bit more centrally located like *insert super secret port here*

[Chromey]

IF I ever see Capt game over or yazzus again I will be sure to try to sink them and take screen shots 4 u rekab.

[mouse of war]

I would definitely welcome any opportunity to fight in arranged battles. Perhaps this could be extended to other days? - they wouldn't need to be on the same scale each time

[Rekab]

I would definitely welcome any opportunity to fight in arranged battles. Perhaps this could be extended to other days? - they wouldn't need to be on the same scale each time

 

One idea that came out of my guild RAE was to simulate a British attack on a Spanish gold convoy. Instead of just making it a regular battle there could be some rules for which the Spanish side wins if X number of cargo ships (they could be 3rd rates with low tier cannons for instance) survive after 1 hour of battle, and the British side wins if X are captured. Of course there would be a escort and all that, but that and other rules could be discussed if you guys like this idea. Let me know and I can discuss with RAE ^^

[Booyaah]

That sounds like it would be a fun re-enactment as a scenario for a future game mode in skirmish.  Don't let me stop you, however I would ask you to create your own thread for it, so this one doesn't get too confusing.

 

Thanks.

[oleski]

Yeah its true, I'm join to the battle, and saying them(i know them) here its a safe zone for trafalgar but they dont know it, and not taken over.

 

 

PS: Its not my problem, just remember im not atacking Rekab

 

PS2: Need to fix my micro, and disable sound in trafflagar, just i hear a shoting at me xD

Edited July 22, 2015 by oleski

[admin]

As I said, they are in their own right to attack me or anyone whenever they want as it is an Open World. I am just asking to exclude them from future Trafalgars as they did not follow the rules for this specific battle.

 

Not trying to protect anyone but as far as I know they attacked you some good distance away from plymouth.. (at least day away or something).

+ They did not know such events were happening. When they found out about such battle they arrived to plymouth area and followed the truce.

+ They don't speak english so not sure they were able to comprehend your requests to let you go

+ RAE attacked them before and sank them, are you saying that if in the future if they ask RAE to let them go to some event you will do it?

[Rekab]

Not trying to protect anyone but as far as I know they attacked you some good distance away from plymouth.. (at least day away or something).

+ They did not know such events were happening. When they found out about such battle they arrived to plymouth area and followed the truce.

+ They don't speak english so not sure they were able to comprehend your requests to let you go

+ RAE attacked them before and sank them, are you saying that if in the future if they ask RAE to let them go to some event you will do it?

I understand your concerns, but:

 

1- They attacked me 3 minutes away from Plymouth, because when the battle ended Trafalgar was about to start in 5 minutes, and I had enough time to go to Plymouth, buy a new ship and get in formation.

2- I (and Oleski) informed them while they were ganking me what the deal with Trafalgar was and why I asked them to just let me go.

3- One of them does speak english becuase he talked about the deal that they had with other members of RAE.

4- I can't speak for other people, but if someone said they had something to do or they had no time for PvP I would let them go, but that is just me. I have also never ganked in a disproportionate advantage because I think there is no honour (and no fun) in it. These guys have actually attacked me twice already 4v1... I understand not everyone shares my point of view in this matter, but I wish people just battled in some how balanced fights rather than only attacking when they know they are going to win.

 

Also, I never said they should have not attacked me. It is an OW after all. I am just saying that they did not follow the rules of Trafalgar, but I could understand how this was "new" to them and maybe did not understand what the deal was. Maybe I was a bit harsh asking to exclude them since it was only the first time they did it (that I know of), but there should be no excuse for them for now on.

[Booyaah]

Hi guys, I updated the main post with some more clear wording.  

 

The reason we do not want pvp around the site is because sucking the fleet into an unwanted battle wastes everyone time. However, I do not want to police everyone's actions throughout the world every Saturday.  This is a separate issue between RAE and pirates.  We do this just to have fun with the small community that enjoys fleet battles.  We take who shows up on time and start the battle in an orderly fashion.  If pirates players are patrolling around the non immediate area and starting trouble with people enroute to Trafalgar, then that player can notify everyone on TS. I am sure it will just cause them more headaches in the long run when they put themselves on a bunch of pvpers KOS lists.  Karma is a bitch last I heard.  

 

Short Version: You are responsible for getting to the battle site.  3 minutes away is 3 minutes too far.  Sail with friends or use teleport if you want to avoid the hassle.

[Chromey]

people will learn eventually.

[Chromey]

what time is tommorrow Trafalgar?

[Brandonchat]

Trafalgar is tonight at 22:00 Amsterdam time at Plymouth

[Jacques de Montagne]

How did it go? Did you guys stream/record it?

[TommyShelby]

We had one big battle and another smaller one. US (TDA) vs "The Coalition". (Not sure what to call the gathering of countries so it'll be "The Coalition" till someone else comes up with something better/official ^^)

 

I believe we had two or three players recording in both battles. 

- Looking forward to next time!

[Leviathan]

This was the first Trafalgar i've been apart of since Sea Trials and it was a blast. I was only there for the first one but I can't wait until these happen regularly in the open world.

 

As a bonus you get a ton of gold from these battles.

 

[mouse of war]

Sorry I couldn't make it last Traf - went out to the pub and after three pints of CFM I would probable have been a bit of a liability to my team

 

I've heard that one side was using the new 'use chain to hit the enemies sails therefore forcing them to use their repairs early' exploit that has only become available since the new repair mech came in. 

 

It's good that such things are brought to the attention of the developers but I feel that it can only put people off PVP. In the next Trafalgar will every ship just be frantically using chain to take advantage of this exploit? That's going to be boring and I'm not sure that I'll make much of an effort to be there.

 

However I haven't seen the video yet so all this could be an unfounded rumour....

 

regards

Edited July 27, 2015 by mouse of war

[nornica]

Just gonna leave it here..
It was my first post in topic about new repairs.
 

[...]

Also integrating repairs of sails and hull can be dangerous.
Damaging sails is much easier and affect more ship effectivenes in battle than Hull with 50-60%.

So you can start a battle, shoot only sails of enemy ship, making it very easy and slow target to hit.
When he hit repairs to repair his sails to do anything in battle the enemy will have 10 minutes to rekt his hull and sink him.

 

[Guest raat]

Sorry I couldn't make it last Traf - went out to the pub and after three pints of CFM I would probable have been a bit of a liability to my team

 

I've heard that one side was using the new 'use chain to hit the enemies sails therefore forcing them to use their repairs early' exploit that has only become available since the new repair mech came in. 

 

It's good that such things are brought to the attention of the developers but I feel that it can only put people off PVP. In the next Trafalgar will every ship just be frantically using chain to take advantage of this exploit? That's going to be boring and I'm not sure that I'll make much of an effort to be there.

 

However I haven't seen the video yet so all this could be an unfounded rumour....

 

regards

 

Shooting sails to burn a repair is an exploit?  Since when?

 

While I don't like unified repairs personally, shooting sails is strategy, not an exploit.  It has been since ST1 when we had unified repairs as well.  It's risky.  If you fail to be successful at it, then the enemy has all that time that you were shooting sails to simply shoot your hull.  Leaving you at a dps disadvantage.

 

Not wanting unified repairs is one thing, but complaining about people using strategy to win battles under the current game mechanic conditions is something else.