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'Ocean' French 118 guns I-rate


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'Ocean' 


 


Océan was a 118-gun first-rate three-decker ship of the line of the French Navy, lead ship of her class. She was funded by a don des vaisseaux donation from the Estates of Bourgogne.


 

She was ordered as États de Bourgogne and was launched at Brest in 1790. Like many French ships of the line during the Revolutionary period, she was renamed several times, becoming Côte d'Or in January 1793, Montagne in October 1793, Peuple on 17 May 1795, and a matter of weeks later again renamed, to Océan. She served until 1855.

As the largest ship of the line in the Brest fleet, the ship spent much of her early career as the fleet flagship.

As Montagne, the ship was the flagship of Rear-Admiral Villaret-Joyeuse in the Combat de Prairial (known in English literature as the Glorious First of June) in 1794. She was badly damaged by the HMS Royal Sovereign, losing 313 men and receiving 233 round shots in her hull.

On 17 May 1795, she was renamed Peuple; a month later, on the 23 of June she fought in the Battle of Groix as Villaret's flagship. Returning to Lorient three days later, she was (officially, since 30 of May the name Océan was used) renamed to Océan.

She was refitted in Brest in 1797.

In 1801, she once again served as Villaret's flagship, ferrying troops of Leclerc's expedition to Saint-Domingue.

Océan was Allemand's flagship at the Battle of the Basque Roads.

She was decommissioned on 2 August 1850, and used as a floating artillery battery from May 1851.

 

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Ship plans and pictures are welcome!

 

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Original dev post:

We have given the right to pick the wild card to our 3d modelers.

They have chosen Ocean Class - 118 gun ship of the line. 


 


http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/2994-player-selected-ships-2015-final-poll/?p=80626


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First name : État de Bourgogne
By J.N. Sané
Build in Brest
1786-1855
Second name : l'Ocean in 1795

196' 6" x 50' x 25'
32-gun of 36-pdr
34-gun of 24-pdr
34-gun of 12-pdr
18-gun of 8-pdr
Total : 118-gun
In 1793 + 6 howitzer for 124-gun

This is not very good, I'm sorry ...

Lebreton's lithography representing two ships of 118-gun maneuvering. In the foreground l'Ocean and in the second le Souverain. We are in the 1840s.

The wind must be Strong Breeze in view of sails, le Souverain is downwind with the mainsail on brails for not to lose wind in the foresail. L'Ocean is in with the wind of the quarter to starbord tack. The road of collisision must be exceeded and le Souverain drive behind the l'Ocean.

The foresail and fore-topsail are not to lose wind and offers more lift to the wind. The effort is given up at the back despite the mizzen brails. With the help of the bar, is going to luff.

L'Ocean has a flame war at the mainmast, the admiral does not seem to be on board. This must be the first squadron, the white squadron flag is scope on the mainmast. Unless the building is not integrated with a squadron, it is isolated and therefore has a the flame without distinction guard.

 

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  • 8 months later...
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Probably not as soon as "very soon," though, because I think most of us know by now how long it takes the devs to implement new ships. 

 

Indeed not very soon, apart from that picture we haven't heard of her much, and that picture was a while a go.

What kind of stats is it likely to have? I assume something between the Victory and Santissima?

We dont know, all we know is that she has 118 guns.

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Slightly more HP than Santi and faster.

Broadside debatable - from 42-24-12-9 to 42-24-18-12.

I think it should get the bigger guns to bring her into the broadside weight class of the Santi, rough homogenization of the "heavy first rates" would allow more diversity in battles if they were comparable (Ocean, Santisima, Caledonia) instead of having one clear winner when min-maxing. Santi most firepower but weakest, Ocean in the middle and Caledonia strongest hull - but all very close)

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First name : État de Bourgogne

By J.N. Sané

Build in Brest

1786-1855

Second name : l'Ocean in 1795

196' 6" x 50' x 25'

32-gun of 36-pdr

34-gun of 24-pdr

34-gun of 12-pdr

18-gun of 8-pdr

Total : 118-gun

In 1793 + 6 howitzer for 124-gun

In 1806:

32-gun of 36-pdr

34-gun of 24-pdr

34-gun of 12-pdr or 18-pdr

14-gun of 8-pdr + 12 caronnades of 36-pdr

Total : 132-gun

In 1827:

32-gun of 36-pdr

34-gun of 24-pdr

34 caronnades of 36-pdr

16 caronnades of 36-pdr + 4-gun of 18-pdr + 6 howitzer of 36-pdr

Total : 120-gun

In 1837:

32-gun of 30-pdr

30-gun of 30-pdr + 4 howitzer of 80-pdr

34 howitzer of 30-pdr

16 caronnades of 30-pdr + 4 howitzer of 30-pdr

Total : 114-gun

In 1848 = 116-gun

In 1849 = 112-gun

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Slightly more HP than Santi and faster.

Broadside debatable - from 42-24-12-9 to 42-24-18-12.

I think it should get the bigger guns to bring her into the broadside weight class of the Santi, rough homogenization of the "heavy first rates" would allow more diversity in battles if they were comparable (Ocean, Santisima, Caledonia) instead of having one clear winner when min-maxing. Santi most firepower but weakest, Ocean in the middle and Caledonia strongest hull - but all very close)

We don't know if we're getting the Caledonia. 

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Since this is a sistership of "Le Commerce de Mairseille" you can see a buildvlog of a 1/48 model:

http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/118/jpb/jpb1.htm

 

Down on the bottom of the page is a blue arrow which directs you to the next page- blue on bluue background.. that was genious.

Oh my god that was beautiful. My question is...would that of been similar (or even scale) to how the real ones were built? It's just something I have never been able to visualize.

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[...] My question is...would that of been similar (or even scale) to how the real ones were built? It's just something I have never been able to visualize.

 

Of course the dimensions are good!
 
As a reminder :
Lenght x Breadth x Depht in hold
196' 6" x 50' x 25' (pieds du roi)
63.829m x 16.241m x 8.121m
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if you mean the process of building her up - from the frame timbers up to the rigging.

Then yeah. They used to buid ships basically the way this model is made.

 

Interieur comes at last in RL.

Model builder however cannot access lower gundecks when the next deck is closed on top ;)

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