Royal Armed Yacht

[admin]

Admin, is assistance still needed with developing a deck plan for this ship?

 

we will soon post the deck here for feedback

(untextured)

[Charles Vader]

Enjoy

 

http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/tall_ships/Royal_Caroline.htm

[Charles Vader]

http://ysmc-world.la.coocan.jp/exhibition/ex2012/23.html

 

http://www.admiraltyshipmodels.co.uk/acatalog/Model_Ship_Royal_Yacht_Mary.html

 

http://www.modelships.de/RealeFrancePfoertsch/Reale_de_France_eng.htm

 

http://www.modelships.de/Barkasse/Barge_Le_Canot_Imperial_eng.htm

 

 

some more yachts if interested

[Cdr.ODon]

Utrecht Statenjacht 1746 (replica)

 

State yachts were used to transport Dutch Commanders and VIPs.

 

[admin]

Yacht is done - in 2 variations

 

looks like this

[Ink]

Great! what is the difference between variations?

[Brigand]

Smaller ships invariably used tillers (often with a relieving tackle) instead of steering wheels as is also clearly shown in Chapman's draught (as linked in the OP)... So I can't help but wonder:

 

Why did you guys choose to model the yacht with a steering wheel instead of a tiller?

 

~Brigand

[Wicked Mouse]

I've tried to find information about the Yacht you give out to pre-orders, but I failed to do so unfortunately
In a Dutch book "Zeilen door de Eeuwen" (Sails through the Centuries) I could spot this very yacht, but it gave little to no background info. It was only said to be a British Yacht from around 1750. (see photo below)

 
On the wiki page about Fredrik Henrik af Chapman, born on September 9, 1721 in Gothenburg I read:

Chapman went to sea in 1736, at the age of fifteen, and spent his late teens working in both private and state shipyards. In 1741, he helped build a Spanish merchant vessel, a project that provided him with enough money to allow him to work as a ship's carpenter in London 1741-44. After his stay in England, he returned to Gothenburg and established a shipyard with a Swedish merchant named Bagge. Together they built a few small vessels and provided maintenance work for the Swedish East India Company.

Education
Though he had a received a good basic education in shipbuilding, Chapman recognized that he did not possess the knowledge of higher mathematics that was required to determine draft and stability at the design stage of a vessel. In 1748, he sold his share of the shipyard and moved to Stockholm where he studied for two years under Baron Palmqvist. He went on to study under the English professor of mathematics, Thomas Simpson, who had worked out methods for calculating the volume of irregular surfaces and bodies. After one year of studies in London, he went on to study shipbuilding at the British royal dockyards in Woolwich, Chatham and Deptford.

Chapman recorded his extensive research of British shipbuilding in several documents, including an 8-page handwritten document titled Directions for Building of a Ship of 50 Guns, where he described construction methods as well as the British method of launching ships. His activities attracted the interests of the British naval authorities and upon leaving Deptfort in 1753, he was arrested, his papers confiscated and was then charged with trying to lure shipyards workers into French service. France and Great Britain were at the time bitter rivals, and both Sweden and Denmark were active in uncovering British manufacturing methods as well as trying to persuade British shipwrights into their service. Chapman was kept under house arrest for about one month at the cost of half a guinea per day, though still allowed to visit London with an escort. All of his documents were returned to him except a rigging plan. After his release, he stayed a few months to study experimental physics and took lessons in engraving.

In 1754, Chapman continued his educational tour by going to the Netherlands and in 1755 to France, where he was given permission to stay at the royal shipyards at Brest to observe warship construction. There he observed the complete process of construction of the French 60-gun ship Célèbre from keel-laying to rigging under the French shipwright Geoffrey the Elder. He also made line drawings and plans of several French ships, including the huge Ville de Paris and the 64-gun Bienfaisant and pen and ink drawings of ship decorations. The experience in Brest is believed to have made a deep impression on Chapman, later contributing to his conviction that 60-gun ships were the most appropriate for Swedish service.

The French authorities were the first to recognize Chapman's skills and attempted to convince him to stay and enter service for France, an offer he declined. After Chapman returned to London in 1756, the First Lord of the Admiralty tried to do the same, and came close to succeeding by using patriotic appeals to Chapman's British heritage. In his memoirs, Chapman wrote that he would likely have stayed had the current First Lord not lost his office soon after their meeting. Instead, he was recruited by the Swedish minister in Paris, Ulrik Scheffer, later Minister of External Affairs under Gustav III.

 

After this he mainly seems to be active in the Swedish navy according to the wiki, he doesn't seem to have done much for the British. Though the idea of yachts come from the Dutch, the yachts that were Dutch as far as I can tell all had stability swords on the sides.

 

Like the Jacht van de kamer Rotterdam (Yacht of the chamber of Rotterdam).

 

Statenjacht De Utrecht (State's Yacht "De Utrecht"):

 

I don't want to sound like a 'smartarse' by saying "that yacht doesn't look Dutch", but I'd very much would like to hear what the background story is of the yacht currently in the game

[Mirones]

it is what it is, a simple Armed Royal Yacht by Chapman himself decorated in a paintjob made by an famouse italian artist of that time wich name i cant recall have to check the admin post.

it will be a simple alternativ as starter ship  having similar performance and armament as HMS Alert the Cutter but with as you already noticed with more bling-bling

 

 

PRE-ORDER BONUS

The Yacht provides elegance, luxury and dynamism; delivering the futuristic 19th century visual statement. She sets the highest standards for the aesthetic appeal. The very incarnation of the Dutch chic, the Yacht is more than a ship; it's a way of life, reserved for the gentlemen who want to sail with style. The ship was designed by Fredrik Chapman and decorated by Italian painter Adriano Barra.

 

Specifications

• Armament: 4lb, 6lb cannons.
  • carronade upgrades will be determined after sea trials
• Speed: up to 15 knots in favorable winds
• Displacement: up to 90 tons
• Optimal cargohold will be determined after sea trials
• 2 officer slots
• 3 permanent upgrades slots
• Materials: Oak, Redwood, Peach, Gold

[admin]

It's a Chapman yacht. It is done based on the charts in this book. But of course some of the artistic creativity was brought by us. 

[Brigand]

 

PRE-ORDER BONUS

The Yacht provides elegance, luxury and dynamism; delivering the futuristic 19th century visual statement. She sets the highest standards for the aesthetic appeal. The very incarnation of the Dutch chic, the Yacht is more than a ship; it's a way of life, reserved for the gentlemen who want to sail with style. The ship was designed by Fredrik Chapman and decorated by Italian painter Adriano Barra.

 

The above may be erroneous interpreted as the yacht having a relation to a Dutch yacht design... it is not; it is a Swedish yacht design, as confirmed by admin:

 

It's a Chapman yacht. It is done based on the charts in this book. But of course some of the artistic creativity was brought by us.

 

In other words, the pre-order yacht is based on Swedish historic draught, more specifically Chapman's 'Armed Yacht' in Architectura Navalis Mercatoria, plan 44 vessel nr. 3.

 

If you look closely at the plan done by Chapman (see attached file), you will notice some differences, such as the original plan having a tiller instead of a steering wheel as well as a raised section in the midships, which would most probably be a raised cabin section (gentlemen's salon).

 

~Brigand

[Wicked Mouse]

The above may be erroneous interpreted as the yacht having a relation to a Dutch yacht design... it is not; it is a Swedish yacht design, as confirmed by admin:

 

 

In other words, the pre-order yacht is based on Swedish historic draught, more specifically Chapman's 'Armed Yacht' in Architectura Navalis Mercatoria, plan 44 vessel nr. 3.

 

If you look closely at the plan done by Chapman (see attached file), you will notice some differences, such as the original plan having a tiller instead of a steering wheel as well as a raised section in the midships, which would most probably be a raised cabin section (gentlemen's salon).

 

~Brigand

 

Yes, indeed. Combined with the overview picture flying a Dutch flag on the pre-order page (cannot direct-link the image):

 

http://www.navalaction.com/preorder/

 

This generated some confusion for me. Thank you for the clarification, fellas.

 

Swedish designed (pleasure) yacht for possibly the British market, based on a Dutch idea Got it!

[Mirones]

every ship has a tiller for the ruder some are used by hand and some by a ship wheel like here:  HMB Endavour has the same setup exept that the tiller is below deck below  at the roomtop 

 

[Brigand]

Swedish designed (pleasure) yacht for possibly the British market, based on a Dutch idea Got it!

I'm not sure you could say the pleasure yacht is a Dutch idea. Although the Dutch where already sailing fore-and-aft rigged yachts in the 16th century*, the English and French also sailed small vessels for pleasure. The Dutch do have a history of sailing flat bottomed shallow draught yachts, often lavishly decorated. They even organised 'spiegel gevechten' (which literally translates as 'transom fights') where the well to do gentlemen held mock battles close to the beach for their of pleasure and the entertainment of spectators.

Chapman (Fredrik Henrik af Chapman) was a naval architect. He created the Architectura Navalis Mercatoria as a collection of contemporary ship types that he considered to be the best and most interesting. His work was intended more as a reference piece meant to showcase the designs thought 'best' at the time than is intended as actual designs. I do not think he based this design on the Dutch yachts (in fact, it has little resemblance to the typical Dutch design), nor do I think it was designed for any 'market' (which does not mean that it is impossible that some English Shipwright build a yacht based on Chapman's designs :-)

 

every ship has a tiller for the ruder some are used by hand and some by a ship wheel like here: HMB Endavour has the same setup exept that the tiller is below deck below at the roomtop

I'm aware that every vessel of the time had a tiller. What I meant to say is that the Chapman design had no steering wheel, just the tiller (as was the norm for ships this size at the time).

 

*) See Fore and Aft by E. Keble Chatterton (1912) you should be able to find it on google books.

 

Cheers,

Brigand

[weirdguy]

A bit of a post from the past, but I wanted to clarify a few things for everyone.

 

1.  That is a "bill board" and is just extra wood nailed to the outside of a ship to protect the hull from the iron bills of an anchor being winched up and tied in place.  They are not decorated because they get scuffed up and damaged every time you bring your anchor onto the ship.  They can be replaced when they've become too damaged.

 

2.   The Hawsepipe.  It is just a simple hole through the front of a ship, often 4 of them, 2 per side.  You may be wondering why there is no rope tied to the anchors.  Well, you only attach your anchor to the rope when it is time to use the anchor.  Most of the time the anchors are tied in place with nothing on them.

 

When it does become time to anchor somewhere where there are no pylons, bouys, or dock to tie up to you pull out the plugs from the pipe, get the big rope (the cable) through the eye ring on the anchor, bend it over, and then use a small rope to lash the end to the cable again (bending your anchor).

 

You usually need at least 1 anchor, but more could be used in bad weather.  Sailing ships have no motors and no tugboats, so they don't take chances and just use more anchors.  You don't normally want to use more than 1, because if the wind or tide shifts, then the two anchor cables could become twisted together as the ship swings around.  You also cannot anchor near another ship.  You have to have a full 360 degree circle to swing around it that won't hit another ship anchored nearby.

 

To get a ship out of a natural harbor you use two anchors.  It is called Warping.  You lash one ship anchor to the back of your biggest rowboat, row out to the end of the cable, drop it (with a buoy attached to the anchor as well), and then winch in that cable using the ship's capstan, while simultaneously letting out more cable on the other anchor you are not using anymore.  While that is going on the rowboat goes to the buoy above the now unused anchor, pulls up that anchor, and repeats.

 

A good harbor doesn't require you to use your anchors at all.  They should have rows of wood or stone pylons, or even large buoys in two rows all along the length of the channel, with rings on them.  Instead of using anchors you just row over to the next pylon or buoy and bend your anchor cable straight onto the pylon/buoy and pull yourself out of harbor that way.

 

It should be noted that getting in and out of harbor is usually done at the same time as the tide is going in or out in the same direction so the current helps move the ship.  In theory the ship floats down the channel and your anchors or pylons are just there to steer it.