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Dont listen to the bitter danish troll.  

 

Here are several flagships and other major ships that survived battle. I do agree that Sweden did loose alot of ship back then, but on the other side, Sweden did take part in lots of wars with several enemies at the same time. 

 

Viktoria (1658)  72 guns                                            -  Sold or Scrapped

Smålands Lejon (1633)                                             - Sold

Konung Karl (1694)  108 guns                                  - Scrapped

Göta Lejon (1702) 90 guns                                       - Sold

Drottning Ulrika Eleonora (1719) 68 guns                 - Scrapped

Stockholm (1708)  68 guns                                       -Sold

Hessen-Cassel (1731) 62 guns                                -Scrapped

Göta Lejon (1746) 70 guns                                      - Scrapped

Konung Gustav IV Adolf (1799) 74 guns                   -Scrapped

Sankt Erik (1560) 90 guns                                        -Scrapped

Wrangel (1664) 60 guns                                           -Scrapped

Äpplet (1622)                                                            -Sold

Göta Ark (1634) 72 guns                                          -Scrapped

 

 

It cant be easy being danish and talk about warfare... From Gustav Vasa and to modern day:

 

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it cant be fun going from

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to

 

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Simply because they start war with nations that they cant beat...

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I love reading about this sort of thing. Sunken treasure and the like.

This one is out of period... but still age of sail.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/07/140707-mars-shipwreck-warship-baltic-sea-archaeology-science/

 

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Last summer i  created a thread that contains some video footage from several swedish ships in the baltic sea, one of them was Mars. You might like it. Sorry about the language thou.

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/1202-videos-from-wreckdivings-in-sweden/

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Dont listen to the bitter danish troll.  

 

Here are several flagships and other major ships that survived battle. I do agree that Sweden did loose alot of ship back then, but on the other side, Sweden did take part in lots of wars with several enemies at the same time. 

 

Viktoria (1658)  72 guns                                            -  Sold or Scrapped

Smålands Lejon (1633)                                             - Sold

Konung Karl (1694)  108 guns                                  - Scrapped

Göta Lejon (1702) 90 guns                                       - Sold

Drottning Ulrika Eleonora (1719) 68 guns                 - Scrapped

Stockholm (1708)  68 guns                                       -Sold

Hessen-Cassel (1731) 62 guns                                -Scrapped

Göta Lejon (1746) 70 guns                                      - Scrapped

Konung Gustav IV Adolf (1799) 74 guns                   -Scrapped

Sankt Erik (1560) 90 guns                                        -Scrapped

Wrangel (1664) 60 guns                                           -Scrapped

Äpplet (1622)                                                            -Sold

Göta Ark (1634) 72 guns                                          -Scrapped

 

 

It cant be easy being danish and talk about warfare... From Gustav Vasa and to modern day:

 

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it cant be fun going from

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to

 

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Simply because they start war with nations that they cant beat...

I didn't mean to offend anyone. 

 

Apart from St. Erik and King Karl, Sweden has lost pretty much all of her larger flagships(80-90+) - Kronan, Vasa etc.

 

I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to offend you or anything - But you do have to admit that the performance of the Swedish Navy, its crews and admirals, was very mediocre most of the time. Just like I, and most other Danes, admit that the performance of the Danish Army and its generals was crap.

 

(Also, something is wrong when one lists the Scanian War, War of 1808-1809, Theater War and the Northern Seven Years War as Swedish Victories - They were status quo. And Sweden as the victor in the Great Northern War?! Also, listing Denmark as the aggressor in the Theater War? That list is clearly biased and written by someone with no historical knowledge. Here's a better list: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1emc97/is_it_true_that_sweden_and_denmark_is_the_two/)

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I agree when i read that list again it contains several errors.

Biggest error is the Great Northern War wich was a major defeat for Sweden. The defeat marked the end of the Swedish Empire.

Theater War was somewhat of a victory for Sweden. Sweden attacked Russia ( who had a defencive agreement with Denmark )  

 

Denmark honored the agreement and attacked Sweden. Denmark conquered several towns on the Swedish west-coast but later surrendered ( or actually declared themself neutral) when Prussia assisted by Great Britain threatned to attack Danish Holstein.

 

The Nordic Seven year's war was also somewhat of a victory for Sweden. Denmark had to give up their claims on the Swedish Crown, thereby ending what's left of the Kalmar Union.

 

The Scanian war, hmm well, Danish army invaded Southern Sweden but got defeated by the Swedish army. The Danish Navy beat the Swedish navy.

 

Saying that we lose all flagships is quite wrong, sure we lose several in battle, but many other didnt get sunk.

 

Besides, doesnt most nations lose ships in horrible ways? Sovergin of the Seas? A single candle took her out. Hms Victory (1737) wasnt either a well buildt ship. She sunk with all her crew in the English Channel.

 

Not to mention the Danish-Lübeck fleet in 1566? Anchored in a storm. 15 ships went down and 6000-7000 people died.

 

The Spanish armada after the defeat got sunk when they tried to sail around Great Britain.

 

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  This one annoys me so much. 

 

Riksäpplet was a 84 gun SoL, buildt in 1661 and sunk outside Stockholm in 1676 ( after returning from the battle in wich the Kronan was lost ). She was designed by Francis Sheldon who most likely had used the English triple-decker Naseby as inspiration when he designed Riksäpplet.

 

She sunk after her moorings broke during a storm and run aground. The wreck was well preserved at 15 meters depth ( it was actually even more preserved than Vasa ) until 1921 when some idiot decided to blow it up and use the wood to make the doors on the city hall of Stockholm.  :angry:

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Great posts. ;-; Love to read about shipwrecks, morbid as it is. Just sort of interesting to think about all the beauties laying on the sea floor. With every ship lost, that's one less we would have potentially been able to enjoy for longer. Ahhhhh

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I agree when i read that list again it contains several errors.
Biggest error is the Great Northern War wich was a major defeat for Sweden. The defeat marked the end of the Swedish Empire.
Theater War was somewhat of a victory for Sweden. Sweden attacked Russia ( who had a defencive agreement with Denmark )  
 
Denmark honored the agreement and attacked Sweden. Denmark conquered several towns on the Swedish west-coast but later surrendered ( or actually declared themself neutral) when Prussia assisted by Great Britain threatned to attack Danish Holstein.
 
The Nordic Seven year's war was also somewhat of a victory for Sweden. Denmark had to give up their claims on the Swedish Crown, thereby ending what's left of the Kalmar Union.
 
The Scanian war, hmm well, Danish army invaded Southern Sweden but got defeated by the Swedish army. The Danish Navy beat the Swedish navy.
 
Saying that we lose all flagships is quite wrong, sure we lose several in battle, but many other didnt get sunk.
 
Besides, doesnt most nations lose ships in horrible ways? Sovergin of the Seas? A single candle took her out. Hms Victory (1737) wasnt either a well buildt ship. She sunk with all her crew in the English Channel.
 
Not to mention the Danish-Lübeck fleet in 1566? Anchored in a storm. 15 ships went down and 6000-7000 people died.
 
The Spanish armada after the defeat got sunk when they tried to sail around Great Britain.
 

 

Anyway, I apologise for being somwhat rude against you Swedes. I can see that I've been glorifying Denmark a little too much, and I'm sorry about that.

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