Jump to content
Game-Labs Forum

Fridericus Quintus, Danish 2nd Rate 1753 (With Plans)


Recommended Posts

90 Cannons

800 Crew

Length 174 fot ( 54.5 m)

Width 47 fot 6 inches (15 m)

Launched 1753
 

 

 

These Models arnt the most beautiful or accurate, but show kinda how it would look.

The build drawings show it much better.

 

Fridericus%20Quintus%201.jpg

HPIM083310.jpgHPIM082810.jpgHPIM083210.jpg

HPIM083110.jpgHPIM082910.jpgHPIM082710.jpg

D840.jpg

a1176g.jpg <----- Very cool figurehead

 

 

d971.jpg

 

For more build papers -> http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/visskib.asp?skib=Fridericus%20Quintus&la=1 Press "vis"

Edited by mortenlnielsen
  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Need more info on this ships:

 

Christianus Quintus

 

anyone would like to do some research?

​More plans, history, armament. 

 

christianus_quintus_1683.jpg

 

Fredericus Quartus 1699

 

 

 

cristianus_quintus_1699.jpg

 

Christianus Quintus 
length 146 ft, width of 38 ft, and a depth of 13 feet and 9 inches
armed with 84 guns and a crew of 567 men.

 

Fredericus Quartus 1699 was one of  the largest ship in the world in her time , 

and  largest in Danish Navy ever.
She was 1695 laests (c.3400 t.) displacement.
Dimensions were : 185 x 50 x 21, draught was 20-2/22-2(22-6) ft.
Guns:28-36, 28-18, 28-12, 20-6, 6-4 = 110 (1992 lb.)
The crew was 950 men.
 
They where both fought in The battle of Køge bay.
The Christianus Quintus was the SOL of the 2st Squadron ,
and the Fredericus Quartus was in the 1st Sqadron i think, not as SOL thou.
 
the Fridericus Quintus also fought in that battle.
 
But i cant find any more build drawing than those you got, i have tried. :/
If i find more i will make sure to  post :)
 
paintings of The battle of Køge bay
 
 
KB-slagetSMB.jpg
 
slaget%20_ved_koege2.jpg
 
slaget%20_ved_koege.jpg    <----- christianus quintus with the danish flag
Edited by mortenlnielsen
Link to post
Share on other sites

Found another one. 

 

90-Christianus Sextus 1733 was Danish largest warship until Christian den Syvende of 1767.
Her dimensions were : 180 x 48-4 x 19-10/21-8 ft., and displacement c.3100 t.

 

sextus_1733.jpg

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah, but the British gave their ships inspiring names like Indefatigable, Renown, Victory, etc; the French gave their ships, well, various names that sound very French ( :P); the Spanish used a bunch of religion-based names afaik; and most of what the Danish could come up with for a ship name was one of two names followed by a number? lol

Link to post
Share on other sites

There where many not name after kings, but the ones named after kings where some of the coolest :)

 

  • Hercules 81 guns - Captured by Sweden 1563, returned 1570
  • Hector 38 guns - Captured by Sweden 1563 and renamed Danska Hektor, scuttled c. 1566
  • Hjort 46 guns - Captured by Sweden 1563, returned 1570
  • Byens Loffue 56 guns - Captured by Sweden 1564 and renamed Böse Lejon, returned 1570
  • Morian 47 guns - Captured by Sweden 1564 and renamed Danska Morian, returned 1570
  • David 42 guns - Captured by Sweden 1564, returned 1570
  • Skotske Pink 56 guns - Captured by Sweden 1564 and renamed Skotska Pincka, recaptured 1569
  • Jegermesther 90 guns - Captured by Sweden 1565, returned 1570
  • Merkurius - Storm 1566
  • Samson - Storm 1566
  • Hannibal - Storm 1566
  • Fortuna 80 guns
  • Prindse-Bark 64 guns
  • Samson 62 guns
  • Josaphat 52 guns
  • Josua 48 guns
  • Drage 42 guns
  • Trefoldighed 48 guns
  • Tre Løver 46 guns - Captured by Sweden 1644 and renamed Tre Lejon
  • Spes 38-66 (c. 1612) - BU 1673
  • Patienta 48 (c. 1616) - Captured by Sweden 1644
  • St Sophia 40 (c. 1624) - Wrecked in storm 1645
  • Oldenborg 32-42 (c. 1628) - Captured by Sweden 1644
  • Hannibal 44 guns
  • Viktoria 48 guns
  • Frederik 86 guns
  • Sofia Amalia 86 guns
  • Prinds Kristian
  • Norske Løve 44 guns
  • Tre Kroner 42 guns
  • Sorte Rytter 40 guns
  • Trefoldighed 66 guns
  • Lindorm 46 guns
  • København 32 guns - Rearmed to 50 guns, scuttled 1676
  • Tre Løver 60 guns
  • Nelleblad 46 guns
  • Norske Løve 86 guns - Wrecked 1666
  • Tre Kroner 74 guns
  • Oldenborg 47 guns?/48 guns
  • Slesvig 52 guns - Renamed Kurprinds
  • Prins Jørgen 52 guns
  • Delmenhorst 46 guns - Scuttled as part of Provesteen battery, 1713
  • Gyldenløve 36 guns - Rearmed to 56 guns, captured by Britain but released, 1694
  • Prinds Georg 80 guns - Scuttled as part of Trekroner battery, 1713
  • Charlotta Amalia 54 guns - Scuttled as part of Trekroner battery, 1713
  • Christianus V 86 guns
  • Anna Sofia 60 guns
  • Churprinds 76 guns
  • Nelleblad? 56 guns
  • Christiania 54 guns
  • Fredericus III 60 guns
  • Enighed 62 guns - Scuttled 1679
  • Neptunus 42 guns
  • Norske Løve 84 guns - Sank 1679
  • Flyvende Hjort 44 guns
  • Elephant 84 guns
  • Prinds Frederik 84 guns
  • Tre Kroner 84 (c. 1664) - Scuttled as part of Trekroner battery, 1713
  • Christianus IV 50-64 (c. 1672) - Scuttled as part of Provesteen battery, 1719
  • Tomler 52 (c. 1682) - Scuttled as part of Provesteen battery, 1723
  • Sværdfisk 52 (c. 1682) - Scuttled as part of Provesteen battery, 1723
  • Slesvig 50/52 (c. 1684) - Storm 1711
  • Dannebroge 94 (c. 1692) - Blew up 1710
  • Tre Løver 78 guns
  • Prinds Christian 76 guns
  • Sophia Hedevig 76 guns
  • Dronning Louisa 70 guns
  • Prinds Carl 54 guns
  • Prinds Wilhelm 54 guns
  • Oldenborg 52 guns
  • Fredericus IV 110 guns
  • Justitia 90 guns
  • Haffru 70 guns
  • Beskjermer 64 guns
  • Ebenetzer 64 guns
  • Ditmarsken 50 guns
  • Laaland 50 guns
  • Dronning Anna Sophia 90 guns
  • Tre Løver 60 (c. 1730)
  • Prinsesse Charlotte Amalia 60 (c. 1731)
  • Prinsesse Louise 60 (c. 1731) - Discarded 1771?
  • Markgrevinde Sophia Christina 60 (c. 1732) - Discarded 1753?/56?
  • Christianus VI 90 (c. 1733) - Discarded 1769?
  • (Nye) Delmenhorst 50 (c. 1735) - Discarded 1777?
  • Jylland 70 (c. 1739) - Discarded 1761? (not to be confused with the frigate "Jylland", c. 1801, present day museum)
  • Wenden 70/72 (c. 1742)
  • Kjøbenhavn 70 (c. 1744)
  • Fyen 50/52 (c. 1746)
  • Island 50/60 (c. 1751)
  • Stormar 60 (c. 1751)
  • Dronning Juliane Marie 70 (c. 1752) - Discarded 1788?
  • Fredericus V 90 (c. 1753) - Discarded 1775?
  • Sejer 60 (c. 1754)
  • Grønland 50 (c. 1756)
  • Kronprintz 70 (c. 1756)
  • Dannemark 70 (c. 1757)
  • Ebenetzer 50 (c. 1758)
  • St Croix 50 (c. 1758)
  • Mars 50 (c. 1760)
  • Jylland 70 (1762)
  • Norske Løve 70 (c. 1765)
  • Slesvig 50 (c. 1767)
  • Christian VII 90 (1767)
  • Øresund 60 (1768)
  • Prindsesse Vilhelmine Caroline 60 (1769)
  • Elefanten 70 (1774)- discarded 1802
  • Holsteen 60 (c. 1775)- captured by Royal Navy, Battle of Copenhagen 1801. Recommissioned as HMS Holstein 1802, renamed HMS Nassau 1805.
  • Dannebroge 60(1773)- sunk, Battle of Copenhagen 1801
  • Wagrien 64(1774)- sunk, Battle of Copenhagen 1801
  • Prindsesse Sophia Frederica 74 (1779) - captured by the British 1807
  • Justitia 74 (1780) - captured by the British 1807
  • Oldenburg 60-64 (c. 1779) - Discarded 1799?
  • Ditmarsken 64 (c. 1780) - Captured and destroyed by the British, 1807
  • Arveprinds Frederich 74 (1788) - captured by the British, 1807
  • Princess Louisa Augusta 64 (c. 1783) - Discarded 1829?
  • Kronprins Frederich 74 (1786) - captured by the British, 1807
  • Mars 64 (c. 1789) - captured and destroyed by the British, 1807
  • Nordstiernen 74 (c. 1788) - discarded 1805
  • Indfødsretten 64 (1787) - sunk, Battle of Copenhagen, 1801
  • Fyen 74 (1787) - captured by the British, 1807
  • Sjælland 74 (1791) - sunk, Battle of Copenhagen, 1801
  • Odin 74 (1791) - captured by the British, 1807
  • Neptunus 80 (1791) - Captured by Britain, aground and burnt 1807
  • Tre Kroner 74 (1789) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Kronprindsesse Maria 70-74 (1791) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Skjold 70 (1796) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Dannemark 74 (1799) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Sejeren 64 (1800) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Waldemar 84 (1800) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Norge 72 (1801) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Christian VII 90 (1805) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • Prinds Christian Frederik 74 (1806) - destroyed and burned, Battle of Sjællands Odde 1808
  • Prindsesse Caroline 74 (1805) - Captured by Britain 1807
  • (3 battleships) 74 guns - Not launched; captured and destroyed by the British, 1807
  • Phoenix 60 (1811) - Discarded 1834
  • Danmark 66 (1818) - Discarded 1856
  • Dronning Marie 84 (1825) - Discarded 1862
  • Waldemar 94 (1830) - Discarded 1864
  • Frederik VI 94 (1832) - Discarded 1872
  • Skjold 94 guns (1836) - Discarded 1873
  • Christian VIII 84 (1841) - destroyed by coastal artillery, Eckernförde, 1849
  • Dannebrog 82 guns (1853) - Rebuilt 1863 as 16-gun armored frigate, discarded 1897
Link to post
Share on other sites

Its really confusing looking into danish ships. Because in denmark there is a long and old tradition of kings being named either Christian or Frederik, so many ships was named Christianus or Fredericus. That tradition still lives today

 

As fare as I know the larges ship in the navy, the flagship, was named after the current King. And since they are named Frederik and Christian the ships are named that too...

 

Also the tradition is no longer in use.

The 3 frigates are named:

Iver Huitfeldt, Peter Willemoes og Niels Juel. all of em naval heroes.
And the two (larger) command and support ships are Absalon and Esbern Snare. (both important men from the mid 12th century)
Edited by thomas aagaard
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

As fare as I know the larges ship in the navy, the flagship, was named after the current King. And since they are named Frederik and Christian the ships are named that too...

 

Also the tradition is no longer in use.

The 3 frigates are named:

Iver Huitfeldt, Peter Willemoes og Niels Juel. all of em naval heroes.
And the two (larger) command and support ships are Absalon and Esbern Snare. (both important men from the mid 12th century)

 

 

i meant that the kings still get named still get named christian and frederik, haha i could just imagine if they still used the kings names on ships. What a mess that would have been

Link to post
Share on other sites

The thread says 1753, but that ship sure doesn't look like a 18th century ship, and late 1600's dates float around for it in posts.  Confused?  So am I...

 

Lovely ships, but going to say again, IMHO the devs need to concentrate on a tighter era of ship technology.  These ships did not sail with or against Napoleonic era vessels.  If they are included, I would hope that the devs would establish a time-line server where ship style and tech would evolve.  Otherwise, including these lump sum would amount to a WoT world...

Link to post
Share on other sites

The thread says 1753, but that ship sure doesn't look like a 18th century ship, and late 1600's dates float around for it in posts.  Confused?  So am I...

 

Lovely ships, but going to say again, IMHO the devs need to concentrate on a tighter era of ship technology.  These ships did not sail with or against Napoleonic era vessels.  If they are included, I would hope that the devs would establish a time-line server where ship style and tech would evolve.  Otherwise, including these lump sum would amount to a WoT world...

I belive Fredericus Quartus would be able to hold its own vs pratically anything you throw at her. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

The thread says 1753, but that ship sure doesn't look like a 18th century ship, and late 1600's dates float around for it in posts.  Confused?  So am I...

 

But it is from 1753. The Dano-Norwegian navy, like many other monarchies decorated their ships very ornately.

 

These ships did not sail with or against Napoleonic era vessels.

 

I believe the devs have stated the time limit is 1650-1810, give or take a few years. I for one couldn't get behind the devs focusing on a 16 year period of ships as opposed to the entire age of sail.

 

Otherwise, including these lump sum would amount to a WoT world...

The current line up of ships is already very varied, timeline wise, but I wouldn't say It's a WoT world.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

The thread says 1753, but that ship sure doesn't look like a 18th century ship, and late 1600's dates float around for it in posts.  Confused?  So am I...

 

Lovely ships, but going to say again, IMHO the devs need to concentrate on a tighter era of ship technology.  These ships did not sail with or against Napoleonic era vessels.  If they are included, I would hope that the devs would establish a time-line server where ship style and tech would evolve.

 

This is the HMS Victory one of the alpha´s best ship, And fougth in the biggest naval battle of the Napolic wars as SOL

Set in the ocean 1765 

with 104 cannons

 

 

HMS_Victory.png

 

And this is the Fridericus Quintus, set in the ocean 1753.

 

d971.jpg

 

They are incredible similar, and only 14 cannons in difference.

The only think that different is that these ships are made in a very baroque¨ish style, too show of for other kings as a symble of power and wealth.

So im pretty sure they would easy hold up agienst ship form the napolic era

Edited by mortenlnielsen
Link to post
Share on other sites

The best information we have on the time frame is:

 

We definitely stop at 1820 mark yes. +-5 years.

Initial model line up range from 1680 till 1820.

Going earlier than that might make line battles look strange (with old galleons alongside modern 2nd rates)

In the Player selected ship 2015 - Suggestions-thread, @admin mentioned: 1600-1830 hard limit, 1690-1790 preferred. But many feel that 1830 is stretching it.

Ships currently confirmed to be in the game range from 1715 (Ингерманланд/Ingermanland) to 1820 (Меркурий/Mercury).

Hope this helps,

~Brigand

Link to post
Share on other sites

i meant that the kings still get named still get named christian and frederik, haha i could just imagine if they still used the kings names on ships. What a mess that would have been

Ups. Sorry about that.

 

You are correct.

Christian I 1448-1481
Hans 1481-1513
Christian II 1513-1523
Frederik I 1523-1533
Christian III 1534-1559
Frederik II 1559-1588
Christian IV 1588-1648
Frederik III 1648-1670
Christian V 1670-1699
Frederik IV 1699-1730
Christian VI 1730-1746
Frederik V 1746-1766
Christian VII 1766-1808
Frederik VI 1808-1839
Christian VIII 1839-1848
Frederik VII 1848-1863
Christian IX 1863-1906
Frederik VIII 1906-1912
Christian X 1912-1947
Frederik IX 1947-1972
Margrethe II of Denmark 1972-
 
Current crownprice is named Frederik and his oldest son is named Christian. So the mess with the 6th Frederik being followd by the 8th Christian will be solved.

So we get:

Frederik X

Christian XI
Link to post
Share on other sites

(...)

 

They are incredible similar, and only 14 cannons in difference.

The only think that different is that these ships are made in a very baroque¨ish style, too show of for other kings as a symble of power and wealth.

So im pretty sure they would easy hold up agienst ship form the napolic era

 

I think they are not all that similar. Sure, they are both three deckers and if you only look at the gun count, the difference isn't all that large.

 

The hull of the Fridericus Quintus is a bit more bulky, something which would influence her ability to sail close to the wind, but I don't think the difference is pronounced enough to make a huge difference.

 

The sail plans however are a world apart: the most obvious difference is the lateen on the Fridericus Quintus for which the HMS Victory as a (gaff) spanker. Next come the size of the sail, the victory has smaller sail, which enable easier handling and finer control of the amount of canvas set. The total sail area for the HMS Victory is larger and altogether more modern. It thin that all the differences combined, I would definitely say they are not all that comparable. But then again, I don't see a need for them to be comparable either.

 

 

~Brigand

Link to post
Share on other sites

The hull of the Fridericus Quintus is a bit more bulky, something which would influence her ability to sail close to the wind, but I don't think the difference is pronounced enough to make a huge difference.

 

The hulls of many dane-norwegian ships where a bit more "bulky" or wide.

meant to keep it very stable and would not heel over as much as other ships when under full sail, 

designed for operating in shallower waters, witch there is a lot of the in Baltic Sea.

And could be fun to have ingame as a variant to the british and frence witch sailed more north atlantic ocean

Link to post
Share on other sites

The hulls of many dane-norwegian ships where a bit more "bulky" or wide.

meant to keep it very stable and would not heel over as much as other ships when under full sail, 

designed for operating in shallower waters, witch there is a lot of the in Baltic Sea.

And could be fun to have ingame as a variant to the british and frence witch sailed more north atlantic ocean

 

In this case I was referring to height above the water line. In other words: the Fridericus Quintus has more bulk above the waterline.

 

Also, I'm not advocating against her, or at least no more than I'm advocating against anything with more than, say, 48 guns. But that is just me, I like the small ships.

 

~Brigand

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 1 month later...

Hallo alll :)

 

for some time now i have been trying to find some of the lineships that the Danish navy had ..

i have been looking add FREDERICUS QUARTUS as a Frist rate . not a 2nd rate

 

it might be a 2 rate but i have one link to show you that it might be a 1nd rate danish ship

 

"MODEL OF THE DANISH FIRST RATE SHIP FREDERICUS QUARTUS"

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-3032-model-of-the-danish-first-rate-ship-fredericus-quartus-23557/

 

 

i dont know if it matter i just wanted to point it out ..

it might be a 1 rate or a 2nd

 

i think it depens on what webside your on .. but i hope this was helpfull just abit :)

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...