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The Swedish Navy 1600-1850

Ships-of-the-Line

•1602-(1644) Äpplet, 32-gun ship.

•1603-(1639) [Gamla] Scepter, 18-32 gun ship.

•1608 Kolmå.rds Bjö.rnen, 15-gun ship.

•1610 Fö.rgyllda Blomman, 22-24 gun ship.

•1616 Scepter, 30 gun ship.

•1617 Riksnyckeln, 22 gun ship.

•1619-(1643) Rikskronan or [Gamla] Kronan, 32-34 gun ship.

•1620-(1680) Andromeda, 24-32-gun ship.

•1622 Stockholm, 24-36 gun ship.

•1622 Apollo, 28-32 gun ship.

•1624 Bönan, 10-18-gun ship.

•1624 Enhorn, 16-gun ship.

•1625 Akilles, 26-gun ship.

•1626-(1650) Tre Kronor, 22-32 gun ship.

•1626-1658 Nya Svärdet, 30-44 gun ship.

•1627-1628 Wasa, 64 gun ship.

•(1630)-1658 [stora] Nyckeln, 32-34 gun ship.

•1631 Falken, 16-20 gun ship.

•1631 Havfrun, 22-24 gun ship.

•1632 Rikskronan, 68-74 gun ship.

•1632 Samson, 24-34 gun ship.

•1633 Göteborg, 30-36 gun ship.

•1633 Jupiter, 50 gun ship.

•1633 Recompens, 22-26 gun ship.

•1634 Delfin, 6-gun ship.

•1634 Delfin, 12-gun ship.

•1634-1650 Göta Ark, 68-74 gun ship.

•1634-1647 Smålands Lejon, 32-46 gun ship.

•1635-(1643) Draken, 32-gun ship.

•1636-1675 Kronan, 68-74 gun ship.

•1636-1675 Scepter, 58-66 gun ship.

•1638 Oxen, 12-15 gun ship.

•1642 Fortuna, 24-gun ship.

•1642 Höken, 12-16 gun ship.

•1643 Göteborg, 36-gun ship.

•1644-(1650) Draken, 40-gun ship.

•1644 Fides, 28-36 gun ship.

•1644 Oldenburg, 30-48 gun ship.

•1644 Patentia, 44-49 gun ship, ex Danish Patentia.

•1644-1667 Tre Lejon, 48-50 gun ship, ex Danish Tre Løver.

•1644 Örnen, 34-gun 5. rate ship.

•1645 Hjorten, 22-36 gun 5. rate ship.

•1645-1659 [Riks]äpplet, 68-74 gun ship.

•1648-1677 Caesar, 46-60 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1648 Julius, 32 gun ship.

•1648 Maria, 38-46 gun ship.

•1648-1676 Västervik, 40-44 gun 4th rate ship.

•1649 Sankt Anna, 40-46 gun ship.

•1649 Wismar, 44-58 gun 4th rate ship.

•1650-1654 Andromeda, ??-gun ship.

•1650 Carolus [iX], 54-60 gun ship.

•1650 Hercules, 50-64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1651 Phoenix, 30-40 gun 5. rate ship.

•1652 Falken, 36-46 gun 4th rate ship.

•1652 Jägaren, 18-26 gun 6. rate ship.

•1652 Merkurius, 42-46 gun ship.

•1653-1677 Amarant, 38-52 gun 4th rate ship.

•1654-1677 Apollo, 34-46 gun ship.

•1654 Månen, 46-50 gun 4th rate ship.

•1655-1677 Draken, 60-66 gun ship.

•1656 Delfin, 14 gun ship.

•1656 Göteborg, 42-50 gun 4th rate ship.

•1656 Svenska Lejonet, 52-gun 4th rate ship.

•1657 Höken, 22-28 gun ship.

•1658 Andromeda, 46-52 gun 4th rate ship.

•1658-1658 Delmenhorst, 36 gun ship.

•1658 Falken, 16-32 gun ship.

•1658 Pelikanen, 36-40 gun ship.

•1658-(1680) Victoria, 70-84 gun ship.

•1659-1679 [Danska] Fenix, 41-44 gun ship.

•1659 Ulven, 44 gun ship.

•1659 Monikendam, 36-42 gun ship.

•1659 Holländska Prinsen, 28 gun ship.

•1659 Leoparden, 24-36 gun ship.

•1659 Neptunus, ?? gun ship.

•1659 Recompens, ?? gun ship.

•1659 Sankt Johannes, 20 gun ship.

•1661 Jupiter, 14-16 gun ship.

•1661-1676 [Riks]äpplet, 84-90 gun ship.

•1662 Nyckeln, 60-74 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1663-1676 Svärdet, 82-94 gun ship.

•1664-1679 Nyckeln, 84-86 gun ship.

•1664 Postiljon, 22-gun 6. rate ship.

•1664 Wrangel, 64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1664 Wrateel, 60-67 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1665 Mars, 72-gun ship.

•1665 Riksnyckeln, 86-88 gun ship.

•1666 Jupiter, 60-71 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1666-(1680) Spes, 46-48 gun 4th rate ship.

•1667 Venus, 60-64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1668-1676 Kronan, 126 gun ship.

•1669-(1680) Solen, 70-74 gun ship.

•1671 Mercurius, 66-gun ship.

•1672 Uttern, 24-gun 6. rate ship.

•1673-1676 Neptunus, 44-gun 4th rate ship.

•1674 Frederika Amalia, 32-gun 6. rate ship.

•1675-1680 Abraham, 30-44 gun 5. rate ship.

•1675-1677 Hieronymus, 72-gun ship.

•1678-(1680) Carolus XI, 72-82 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680-1712 Drottning Hedvig Eleonora, 64-66 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680-1712 Drottning Ulrica Eleonora, 70-gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680 Victoria, 70-80 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680-1719 Wachtmeister, 44-50, 4th rate ship.

•1681-1705 Öland, 48-50 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1682-1713 Blekinge, 70 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1682-1722 Gotland, 48-54 gun 4th rate ship.

•1682-1722 Halland, 50-56 gun 4th rate ship.

•1682-1726 Livland, 48-52 gun 4th rate ship.

•1682-1724 Prins Carl, 68-70 gun, 2nd rate ship, ex Göta. [Glete: 1684]

•1683 Konung Carl, 80-123 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1683-1732 Estland, 48 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1683-1718 Ösel, 48-54 gun 4th rate ship.

•1684-1779 Göta [Rike], 80-87 gun, 1st rate ship. [Glete: 1686]

•1684 Sverige, 74-81 gun, 1st rate ship. [Glete: 1678]

•1686-1730 Karlskrona, 70-76 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1686-1715 Prinsessan Hedvig Sofia, 68-70 gun 2nd rate ship.

•1688 Småland, 64-70 gun, 2nd rate ship. [Glete: 1680]

•1688-1734 Wenden, 70 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1692-1710 Drottning Ulrika Eleonora, 70-80 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1692-1772 Pommern, 52-58 gun 4th rate ship.

•1693-1715 Södermanland, 52 gun ship.

•1694 Wismar, 42-46 gun 4th rate ship.

•1694-1771 Konung Carl, 100-120 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1695 Kalmar, 44-46 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1695 Stettin, 44-46 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1696-1785 Enigheten, 90-92 gun, 1st rate ship → 1732 Konung Fredrik.

•1696-1715 Göteborg, 44-52 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1696-1788 Västmanland. [Westmanland], 60 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1697 Skåne, 60-62 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1697-1711 Wrede, 44-52 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1698 Fredericus, 36-40 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1698-1776 Fredrika Amalia, 60-64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1698-1708 Norrköping, 46-54 gun 4th rate ship.

•1699 Halmstad, 42-48 gun 4th rate ship.

•1702-1745 Göta Lejon, 90-96 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1702-1712 Prins Fredrik Wilhelm, 50 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1703-1715 Nordstjärnan, 70-76 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1704-1797 Prins Carl Fredrik, 64-72 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1705-1781 Bremen, 60-64 gun, 3rd rate ship.

•1705-1742 Öland, 50-60 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1706-1710 Tre Kronor, 76-80 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1706-1754 Verden, 50-54 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1708-1781 Stockholm, 60-60 gun, 3rd rate ship.

•1708-1717 [Nya] Riga, 50-54 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1714 Kronskeppet (1708), 50 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1716 Illerim, 34-36 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1719-1765 Drottning Ulrika Eleonora, 84 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1724 [Greve] Sparre, 42-gun ship.

•1726-1781 Prins Vilhelm, 64-gun ship.

•1726-1781 [Prinsessan] Sofia Charlotta, 64-gun ship. [Glete: 1725]

•1730 Freden, 42-gun ship.

•1731 Drottningholm, 42-gun ship.

•1731-1781 Friheten, 64-gun ship.

•1731-1807 Hessen-Cassel, 64-gun ship. → 1778 Hertig Ferdinand.

•1732-1790 Enigheten, 72-gun ship.

•1734-1738 Sverige, 70-gun ship.

•17351790 Finland, 60-gun ship.

•1742-1795 Fredrik Rex, 60-gun ship.

•1744-1790 [Konung] Adolf Fredrik, 64 gun ship. → 1770 Riksens Ständer.

•1745-1790 [Drottning] Lovisa Ulrika, 72 gun ship.

•1745 Svarta Örn, 42-gun ship.

•1746-1817 Göta Lejon, 72-74 gun ship.

•1747-1781 Sparre, 56-gun ship. [Glete: 1748]

•1748 Mercurius, 26-gun ship.

•1749-1810 Södermanland, 48-gun ship.

•1749-1790 Upland, 48-gun ship.

•1753 Fenix, 36-gun ship.

•1754 Jaramas, 34-gun ship.

•1754 Postiljon, 26-gun ship.

•1755 Jägaren, 26-gun ship.

•1756 Illerim, 36-gun ship.

•1758-1790 Prins Carl, 60-62 gun ship.

•1758-1788 Prins Gustav, 72-gun ship.

•1758 Drottning Sofia Magdalena, 70 gun ship.

•1763 Lovisa Ulrica, 50-gun ship.

•1763? Prins Fredrik Adolf, 60-gun ship. Sold to the East India Company 1763.

•1763? Prinsessan Sofia Albertina, 50-gun ship. Sold to the East India Company 1763.

•1764-1781 [Prinsessan] Sofia Albertina, 62-gun ship.

•1766 Prins Gustav, 36-gun ship.

•1774-1825 Prins Fredrik Adolf, 62-64 gun ship.

•1774-1790 Sofia Magdalena, 70-74 gun ship.

•1775-1825 [Konung] Adolf Fredrik, 70-74 gun ship.

•1777-1825 Gustav III, 70-74 gun ship.

•1778-1803 Wasa, 60-62 gun ship.

•1781-1790 Hedvig Elisabeth Charlotta, 62-gun ship.

•1782-1788 Kronprins Gustaf Adolph, 62-64 gun ship.

•1783-1864 Fäderneslandet, 60-gun ship.

•1783-1790 Ömheten, 60-gun ship.

•1783-1790 Rättvisan, 60-gun ship.

•1784-1793 Dygden, 60-gun ship.

•1784-1874 Äran, 60-gun ship. → 1839 Göteborg.

•1784-1825 Försiktigheten, 60-gun ship.

•1785-1869 Dristigheten, 60-gun ship.

•1785-1864 Manligheten, 60-gun ship.

•1785-1825 Tapperheten, 60-gun ship.

•1788 Vladislaff (1784), 76-gun ship.

•1789/90 Lovisa Ulrika (1763?).

•1799-1876 [Konung] Gustaf IV Adolf, 74-78 gun ship. → 1811 Gustaf den Store, → 1825 Försiktigheten.

•1808-1827 Wasa (1788), 54-gun ship.

•1819-1862 Carl XIII, 74 gun ship.

•1824-1865 Carl XIV Johan, 84 gun ship.

•1830-1869 Prins Oscar, 70 gun ship.

•1832-1868 Gustav den Store, 76-gun ship.

•1856-1921 Stockholm, 70-gun screw-ship.

•1860-1876 Skandinavien, 62-gun ship.

Updated 1996-07-06 by Lars Bruzelius

Sjöhistoriska Samfundet | The Maritime History Virtual Archives top-page.

Copyright © 1996 Lars Bruzelius.

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Wasa (Vasa) 1628   Vasa (or Wasa) is a Swedish warship built between 1626 and 1628. The ship foundered and sank after sailing about 1,300 m (1,400 yd) into her maiden voyageon 10 August 1628. She fe

Being Swedish, and having seen the real ship, i'd love to see this in game.

While the Wasa is a magnificent sight to behold in real life, the ship design is (as you mention)  fatally flawed. So let's not put her into the game, as she would sink every time she sail out of the

Rear camping that ships is gonna be an DMG - Fest :-) its ass is huuughe

 

Edit: Did you guys know that it sunk in the first test Sail? so its actually not able to fight?

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The Swedish Navy 1600-1850

Ships-of-the-Line

•1602-(1644) Äpplet, 32-gun ship.

•1603-(1639) [Gamla] Scepter, 18-32 gun ship.

•1608 Kolmå.rds Bjö.rnen, 15-gun ship.

•1610 Fö.rgyllda Blomman, 22-24 gun ship.

•1616 Scepter, 30 gun ship.

•1617 Riksnyckeln, 22 gun ship.

•1619-(1643) Rikskronan or [Gamla] Kronan, 32-34 gun ship.

•1620-(1680) Andromeda, 24-32-gun ship.

•1622 Stockholm, 24-36 gun ship.

•1622 Apollo, 28-32 gun ship.

•1624 Bönan, 10-18-gun ship.

•1624 Enhorn, 16-gun ship.

•1625 Akilles, 26-gun ship.

•1626-(1650) Tre Kronor, 22-32 gun ship.

•1626-1658 Nya Svärdet, 30-44 gun ship.

•1627-1628 Wasa, 64 gun ship.

•(1630)-1658 [stora] Nyckeln, 32-34 gun ship.

•1631 Falken, 16-20 gun ship.

•1631 Havfrun, 22-24 gun ship.

•1632 Rikskronan, 68-74 gun ship.

•1632 Samson, 24-34 gun ship.

•1633 Göteborg, 30-36 gun ship.

•1633 Jupiter, 50 gun ship.

•1633 Recompens, 22-26 gun ship.

•1634 Delfin, 6-gun ship.

•1634 Delfin, 12-gun ship.

•1634-1650 Göta Ark, 68-74 gun ship.

•1634-1647 Smålands Lejon, 32-46 gun ship.

•1635-(1643) Draken, 32-gun ship.

•1636-1675 Kronan, 68-74 gun ship.

•1636-1675 Scepter, 58-66 gun ship.

•1638 Oxen, 12-15 gun ship.

•1642 Fortuna, 24-gun ship.

•1642 Höken, 12-16 gun ship.

•1643 Göteborg, 36-gun ship.

•1644-(1650) Draken, 40-gun ship.

•1644 Fides, 28-36 gun ship.

•1644 Oldenburg, 30-48 gun ship.

•1644 Patentia, 44-49 gun ship, ex Danish Patentia.

•1644-1667 Tre Lejon, 48-50 gun ship, ex Danish Tre Løver.

•1644 Örnen, 34-gun 5. rate ship.

•1645 Hjorten, 22-36 gun 5. rate ship.

•1645-1659 [Riks]äpplet, 68-74 gun ship.

•1648-1677 Caesar, 46-60 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1648 Julius, 32 gun ship.

•1648 Maria, 38-46 gun ship.

•1648-1676 Västervik, 40-44 gun 4th rate ship.

•1649 Sankt Anna, 40-46 gun ship.

•1649 Wismar, 44-58 gun 4th rate ship.

•1650-1654 Andromeda, ??-gun ship.

•1650 Carolus [iX], 54-60 gun ship.

•1650 Hercules, 50-64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1651 Phoenix, 30-40 gun 5. rate ship.

•1652 Falken, 36-46 gun 4th rate ship.

•1652 Jägaren, 18-26 gun 6. rate ship.

•1652 Merkurius, 42-46 gun ship.

•1653-1677 Amarant, 38-52 gun 4th rate ship.

•1654-1677 Apollo, 34-46 gun ship.

•1654 Månen, 46-50 gun 4th rate ship.

•1655-1677 Draken, 60-66 gun ship.

•1656 Delfin, 14 gun ship.

•1656 Göteborg, 42-50 gun 4th rate ship.

•1656 Svenska Lejonet, 52-gun 4th rate ship.

•1657 Höken, 22-28 gun ship.

•1658 Andromeda, 46-52 gun 4th rate ship.

•1658-1658 Delmenhorst, 36 gun ship.

•1658 Falken, 16-32 gun ship.

•1658 Pelikanen, 36-40 gun ship.

•1658-(1680) Victoria, 70-84 gun ship.

•1659-1679 [Danska] Fenix, 41-44 gun ship.

•1659 Ulven, 44 gun ship.

•1659 Monikendam, 36-42 gun ship.

•1659 Holländska Prinsen, 28 gun ship.

•1659 Leoparden, 24-36 gun ship.

•1659 Neptunus, ?? gun ship.

•1659 Recompens, ?? gun ship.

•1659 Sankt Johannes, 20 gun ship.

•1661 Jupiter, 14-16 gun ship.

•1661-1676 [Riks]äpplet, 84-90 gun ship.

•1662 Nyckeln, 60-74 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1663-1676 Svärdet, 82-94 gun ship.

•1664-1679 Nyckeln, 84-86 gun ship.

•1664 Postiljon, 22-gun 6. rate ship.

•1664 Wrangel, 64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1664 Wrateel, 60-67 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1665 Mars, 72-gun ship.

•1665 Riksnyckeln, 86-88 gun ship.

•1666 Jupiter, 60-71 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1666-(1680) Spes, 46-48 gun 4th rate ship.

•1667 Venus, 60-64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1668-1676 Kronan, 126 gun ship.

•1669-(1680) Solen, 70-74 gun ship.

•1671 Mercurius, 66-gun ship.

•1672 Uttern, 24-gun 6. rate ship.

•1673-1676 Neptunus, 44-gun 4th rate ship.

•1674 Frederika Amalia, 32-gun 6. rate ship.

•1675-1680 Abraham, 30-44 gun 5. rate ship.

•1675-1677 Hieronymus, 72-gun ship.

•1678-(1680) Carolus XI, 72-82 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680-1712 Drottning Hedvig Eleonora, 64-66 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680-1712 Drottning Ulrica Eleonora, 70-gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680 Victoria, 70-80 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1680-1719 Wachtmeister, 44-50, 4th rate ship.

•1681-1705 Öland, 48-50 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1682-1713 Blekinge, 70 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1682-1722 Gotland, 48-54 gun 4th rate ship.

•1682-1722 Halland, 50-56 gun 4th rate ship.

•1682-1726 Livland, 48-52 gun 4th rate ship.

•1682-1724 Prins Carl, 68-70 gun, 2nd rate ship, ex Göta. [Glete: 1684]

•1683 Konung Carl, 80-123 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1683-1732 Estland, 48 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1683-1718 Ösel, 48-54 gun 4th rate ship.

•1684-1779 Göta [Rike], 80-87 gun, 1st rate ship. [Glete: 1686]

•1684 Sverige, 74-81 gun, 1st rate ship. [Glete: 1678]

•1686-1730 Karlskrona, 70-76 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1686-1715 Prinsessan Hedvig Sofia, 68-70 gun 2nd rate ship.

•1688 Småland, 64-70 gun, 2nd rate ship. [Glete: 1680]

•1688-1734 Wenden, 70 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1692-1710 Drottning Ulrika Eleonora, 70-80 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1692-1772 Pommern, 52-58 gun 4th rate ship.

•1693-1715 Södermanland, 52 gun ship.

•1694 Wismar, 42-46 gun 4th rate ship.

•1694-1771 Konung Carl, 100-120 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1695 Kalmar, 44-46 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1695 Stettin, 44-46 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1696-1785 Enigheten, 90-92 gun, 1st rate ship → 1732 Konung Fredrik.

•1696-1715 Göteborg, 44-52 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1696-1788 Västmanland. [Westmanland], 60 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1697 Skåne, 60-62 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1697-1711 Wrede, 44-52 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1698 Fredericus, 36-40 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1698-1776 Fredrika Amalia, 60-64 gun 3rd rate ship.

•1698-1708 Norrköping, 46-54 gun 4th rate ship.

•1699 Halmstad, 42-48 gun 4th rate ship.

•1702-1745 Göta Lejon, 90-96 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1702-1712 Prins Fredrik Wilhelm, 50 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1703-1715 Nordstjärnan, 70-76 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1704-1797 Prins Carl Fredrik, 64-72 gun, 2nd rate ship.

•1705-1781 Bremen, 60-64 gun, 3rd rate ship.

•1705-1742 Öland, 50-60 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1706-1710 Tre Kronor, 76-80 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1706-1754 Verden, 50-54 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1708-1781 Stockholm, 60-60 gun, 3rd rate ship.

•1708-1717 [Nya] Riga, 50-54 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1714 Kronskeppet (1708), 50 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1716 Illerim, 34-36 gun, 4th rate ship.

•1719-1765 Drottning Ulrika Eleonora, 84 gun, 1st rate ship.

•1724 [Greve] Sparre, 42-gun ship.

•1726-1781 Prins Vilhelm, 64-gun ship.

•1726-1781 [Prinsessan] Sofia Charlotta, 64-gun ship. [Glete: 1725]

•1730 Freden, 42-gun ship.

•1731 Drottningholm, 42-gun ship.

•1731-1781 Friheten, 64-gun ship.

•1731-1807 Hessen-Cassel, 64-gun ship. → 1778 Hertig Ferdinand.

•1732-1790 Enigheten, 72-gun ship.

•1734-1738 Sverige, 70-gun ship.

•17351790 Finland, 60-gun ship.

•1742-1795 Fredrik Rex, 60-gun ship.

•1744-1790 [Konung] Adolf Fredrik, 64 gun ship. → 1770 Riksens Ständer.

•1745-1790 [Drottning] Lovisa Ulrika, 72 gun ship.

•1745 Svarta Örn, 42-gun ship.

•1746-1817 Göta Lejon, 72-74 gun ship.

•1747-1781 Sparre, 56-gun ship. [Glete: 1748]

•1748 Mercurius, 26-gun ship.

•1749-1810 Södermanland, 48-gun ship.

•1749-1790 Upland, 48-gun ship.

•1753 Fenix, 36-gun ship.

•1754 Jaramas, 34-gun ship.

•1754 Postiljon, 26-gun ship.

•1755 Jägaren, 26-gun ship.

•1756 Illerim, 36-gun ship.

•1758-1790 Prins Carl, 60-62 gun ship.

•1758-1788 Prins Gustav, 72-gun ship.

•1758 Drottning Sofia Magdalena, 70 gun ship.

•1763 Lovisa Ulrica, 50-gun ship.

•1763? Prins Fredrik Adolf, 60-gun ship. Sold to the East India Company 1763.

•1763? Prinsessan Sofia Albertina, 50-gun ship. Sold to the East India Company 1763.

•1764-1781 [Prinsessan] Sofia Albertina, 62-gun ship.

•1766 Prins Gustav, 36-gun ship.

•1774-1825 Prins Fredrik Adolf, 62-64 gun ship.

•1774-1790 Sofia Magdalena, 70-74 gun ship.

•1775-1825 [Konung] Adolf Fredrik, 70-74 gun ship.

•1777-1825 Gustav III, 70-74 gun ship.

•1778-1803 Wasa, 60-62 gun ship.

•1781-1790 Hedvig Elisabeth Charlotta, 62-gun ship.

•1782-1788 Kronprins Gustaf Adolph, 62-64 gun ship.

•1783-1864 Fäderneslandet, 60-gun ship.

•1783-1790 Ömheten, 60-gun ship.

•1783-1790 Rättvisan, 60-gun ship.

•1784-1793 Dygden, 60-gun ship.

•1784-1874 Äran, 60-gun ship. → 1839 Göteborg.

•1784-1825 Försiktigheten, 60-gun ship.

•1785-1869 Dristigheten, 60-gun ship.

•1785-1864 Manligheten, 60-gun ship.

•1785-1825 Tapperheten, 60-gun ship.

•1788 Vladislaff (1784), 76-gun ship.

•1789/90 Lovisa Ulrika (1763?).

•1799-1876 [Konung] Gustaf IV Adolf, 74-78 gun ship. → 1811 Gustaf den Store, → 1825 Försiktigheten.

•1808-1827 Wasa (1788), 54-gun ship.

•1819-1862 Carl XIII, 74 gun ship.

•1824-1865 Carl XIV Johan, 84 gun ship.

•1830-1869 Prins Oscar, 70 gun ship.

•1832-1868 Gustav den Store, 76-gun ship.

•1856-1921 Stockholm, 70-gun screw-ship.

•1860-1876 Skandinavien, 62-gun ship.

Updated 1996-07-06 by Lars Bruzelius

Sjöhistoriska Samfundet | The Maritime History Virtual Archives top-page.

Copyright © 1996 Lars Bruzelius.

 

Look at all those beautiful 3rd and 4th rate SoLs.  I want, I want.

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While certainly a beautiful ship, I think almost anything from the 1600's will appear anachronistic among later ships and would be outclassed (if modeled correctly rather than 'balanced' for game purposes) because of technological advances from 1600's to early 1800's.  That is the polite way of saying the World of Tanks factor...

 

I would rather see a tighter time period explored and represented in-game, at least in the beginning when dev resources are strained.

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I hope really we dont see ships mixed from 1630 and 1830. Its a difference between redesigning a ship from 1720 to something for a 1780 service. That can happen. But those 200 years difference in also appearance not only technological development, please not. There exist hundreds images (thousands) or plans of ships of 18ct. And now again folks arguing, 'i like greek bireme, please put it into game', and the next 'oh Hansekogge are also great' 'and Columbus Santa Maria'... and so on and so on. Its not important if a game has viking ships against ironclads or galleons against napoleonic ships, both is wrong.

 

I like all naval vessels and periods, but i dont like arbitrary curious mixtures only made by in that case 'taste'. Make then a pure fantasy game, tats more honest.

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I hope really we dont see ships mixed from 1630 and 1830. Its a difference between redesigning a ship from 1720 to something for a 1780 service. That can happen. But those 200 years difference in also appearance not only technological development, please not. There exist hundreds images (thousands) or plans of ships of 18ct. And now again folks arguing, 'i like greek bireme, please put it into game', and the next 'oh Hansekogge are also great' 'and Columbus Santa Maria'... and so on and so on. Its not important if a game has viking ships against ironclads or galleons against napoleonic ships, both is wrong.

 

I like all naval vessels and periods, but i dont like arbitrary curious mixtures only made by in that case 'taste'. Make then a pure fantasy game, tats more honest.

 

To a degree.  There are a whole crap load of very good looking ships from the late 1600s, say in the 1670 range that fit in just fine with more modern designs.  Also just because a design came out originally in say 1630 doesn't mean that people weren't taking older, very functional and proven designs and building ships to that spec even 100 years later.   Take the basic, generic brig for example.  They were in use all throughout the 1600s all the way through at least 1883 when the Telos entred the USN merchant marine.  That is almost 300 years of usage out of one ship design.

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or the french tonnant class wich still got build in a modifyed version by the british around 1820-1830 (HMS Ganges)

and the modern napoleonic ships will ahve a problem in the baltic where the "to old designs" would seal club them while they beach themself on every sandbank.

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To a degree.  There are a whole crap load of very good looking ships from the late 1600s, say in the 1670 range that fit in just fine with more modern designs.  Also just because a design came out originally in say 1630 doesn't mean that people weren't taking older, very functional and proven designs and building ships to that spec even 100 years later.   Take the basic, generic brig for example.  They were in use all throughout the 1600s all the way through at least 1883 when the Telos entred the USN merchant marine.  That is almost 300 years of usage out of one ship design.

But the Wasa 1628 was not a brig and it was in itself a misdesign. I wrote in another thread even the Victory was in its active service life modernised, also in design, so in 1800 the ship looks really different than some decades before. It would be totally anachronistic to see a 1628 Wasa design in combination with a late 18ct design. Has nothing to do when the ship was first build.

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But the Wasa 1628 was not a brig and it was in itself a misdesign. I wrote in another thread even the Victory was in its active service life modernised, also in design, so in 1800 the ship looks really different than some decades before. It would be totally anachronistic to see a 1628 Wasa design in combination with a late 18ct design. Has nothing to do when the ship was first build.

 

Oh on this we agree. I don't think the Wasa 1628 is a good ship to add to the game mostly because it was a failed design, but I was primarily just replying to how your post was worded.  It came off like we shouldn't be adding any ships from the 1600s to the game because most of the ships we do currently have in the game are late 1700s early 1800s designs.   I also agree there are some ships from the 1600s, especially the early 1600s that don't really fit aesthetically and because of that really don't fit into what I would like to call, the "look and feel" of the game however, there are a ton of designs form the 1600s, especially the late 1600s that still retain the character of those older ships while having more modern lines that fit right in with ships like the Bellona, Surprise, Victory, etc and I really want to see and sail those ships.  Honestly, I would rather sail a beautiful ship with lots of character that is just decent than an ugly ship that is great, but that is just me.

 

Honestly though if any ship kind of stands out, it is the Constitution since in my opinion it looks too modern for the game.   Perhaps the cut off should be 1670 -1799, not 1630-1830 but I am sure there are alot of American fans that would disagree.

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But clear, i like the appearance of the Wasa, it looks great, absolutely, perhaps if there will be different servers (later) there will be period servers, ......perhaps....... But first devs should make +/- 30 years 18ct navy and then also the other beautiful ships, but different 'world'.....

Or we have soon a pirates of the burning sea again, that game still exist... i think.

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Sailing ships don't actually risk their stability by turning fast, as they're not motorcycles. Funny how this idea spread around.

 

Tell that to the Kronan, unlike many other nations. Sweden loved their shallow draft warships, hence they have a rather troubling history anytime you start looking at a swedish ship with more then 2 decks.

 

On that note, I'd love to see the world famous Vasa in game, even if she was only a parade ship.

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Tell that to the Kronan, unlike many other nations. Sweden loved their shallow draft warships, hence they have a rather troubling history anytime you start looking at a swedish ship with more then 2 decks.

 

 

Capsizing has nothing to do with a fast turn, though. Ships capsize because of high winds and seas.

 

If you are sailing along with the wind abeam, and are struck by a violent squall, turning downwind as fast as possible is the best thing you can do. A massive wooden warship with a rudder can't turn fast enough to actually create that much centrifugal force.

 

If Kronan capsized during a rapid turn, it was likely because she turned upwind, causing an increased in the wind force acting on her sails, and from an angle more likely to knock her down.

 

It's just Wikipedia editors who assume that a sailing ship fatality has the same causes as motorcycle accident.

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Capsizing has nothing to do with a fast turn, though. Ships capsize because of high winds and seas.

 

If you are sailing along with the wind abeam, and are struck by a violent squall, turning downwind as fast as possible is the best thing you can do. A massive wooden warship with a rudder can't turn fast enough to actually create that much centrifugal force.

 

If Kronan capsized during a rapid turn, it was likely because she turned upwind, causing an increased in the wind force acting on her sails, and from an angle more likely to knock her down.

 

It's just Wikipedia editors who assume that a sailing ship fatality has the same causes as motorcycle accident.

 

Well when you put it that way, yes your right. I thought you where under the assumption that that even if your going at full sail, and cut into the wind nothing would happen. But yes, you dont just roll a ship over because you turned to hard (unless you do it improperly "see the kronan").

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Well when you put it that way, yes your right. I thought you where under the assumption that that even if your going at full sail, and cut into the wind nothing would happen. But yes, you dont just roll a ship over because you turned to hard (unless you do it improperly "see the kronan").

It's usually a combination of action of the wind upon the ship, the turn, and the seas. A poorly timed turn in bad weather, carrying too much sail, when a large wave hits you can cause the ship to founder.

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It's usually a combination of action of the wind upon the ship, the turn, and the seas. A poorly timed turn in bad weather, carrying too much sail, when a large wave hits you can cause the ship to founder.

 

They also dident bother to close the bottem gun ports during the turn apparently.

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They also dident bother to close the bottem gun ports during the turn apparently.

 

While this is confirmed by the museum to be a consistent rumour, they found no evidence on the wreck of any open gun ports. In fact, the evidence points they found at the wreck to the other direction. The theory put forward by the museum is that it may have been a rumour invented after she sank, to keep the king happy: if she sank due to open gun ports, the captain was to blame (he drowned, so no problem there), if however the Wasa sank while the gun ports were closed, the blame came dangerously close to pointing at the king's own decisions.

 

In the official hearing that was conducted in the months after the sinking (at which the King and two other high ranking officials were conveniently missing because they were of too high a status) the committee came to the conclusion that the vessel sank because of flawed design. The minutes from those meeting make it clear that there was absolutely no doubt within this committee.

 

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make it a premium ship sold 5$ and force people to buy a new one each time it sunk (every 1300 m :D)...

Not kidding this ship has nothing to do in a realistic game as this ship can't sail. If you add wasa you can add black pearl as i'm sure many people may spend money to get it too.

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I've visited the Wasa museum in real life, and despite the fatal errors in her design, she is quite a beautiful ship. By the way, she is a constant source of infomation about how ships were built during those ages.

 

Anyway, this ship is outdated if the time period were NA takes place is kept as it is.

 

Regards and thanks for the plans and information.

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I wonder how many people would pay for it if added to the game. I do not think many games have this ship and it makes it a good money making item. 

 

I can honestly say if this was a premium ship i would buy it even if it cost 50 dollars

 

I totally agree. This ship is a real beuty. And I don't see the problem why it's "out of the time era", since older ships could serve for a pretty long time. And maybe it was a flaw, but it wasn't really the design, it was mainly because she had too many and heavy cannons for her weight.

 

And when you think about how many ship-of-the-line who are still intact today, I'd say this ship certainly deserves a spot in Naval Action. Belive me, many would buy this game only for that ship...(even I)

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I totally agree. This ship is a real beuty. And I don't see the problem why it's "out of the time era", since older ships could serve for a pretty long time. And maybe it was a flaw, but it wasn't really the design, it was mainly because she had too many and heavy cannons for her weight.

 

And when you think about how many ship-of-the-line who are still intact today, I'd say this ship certainly deserves a spot in Naval Action. Belive me, many would buy this game only for that ship...(even I)

 

Maybe 10 people max, I can't inmagine this ship being in game, please can we not make it a thing, please.

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Maybe 10 people max, I can't inmagine this ship being in game, please can we not make it a thing, please.

 

I don't see why it can't be entered as a premium ship at some point? True she had a flawed design, which might be fixed in game by changing her armement. She is a beauty looking at her decorations. I for one, and most likely a lot other people who have visited the museum, would be very inclined to buy it.

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