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34 minutes ago, Marshall99 said:

Nowadays I am a bit silent on this forum, but I am waiting for the update too. And also can't wait to discuss the new stuffs with you guys.

Ye, same. Makes me wonder what we will see. Im assuming thats why they are holding out for so long to get things perfect and/or to add anything else they deem needed.

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10 hours ago, ThatZenoGuy said:

Right, but the thousands upon thousands (Edit: No, not thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands to millions, in hindsight) of unironic communists on reddit, twitter, and every other major platform are totally okay, right? Last time I checked they killed a hell of a lot more than the National Socialists as well.

Hell, while we're at it, how many have capitalists and democracies killed? Every political system has blood on its hands, stop being a hello kittying crybaby and acknowledge that, there's no "Nazis" under your bed waiting.

Why does it have to be about ideology at all? I mean I am on the left yet you won’t see me talking about Noam Chomsky and tying it into the discussion in one way or another. It’s about the fact that we’re here to discuss this game as well as to a lesser extent naval history, and that this just isn’t the place to grandstand people for political reasons regardless of your own. If anyone wanted to discuss politics then they should take it elsewhere like a classroom, library, or debate club not a video game forum. 

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Well a new tester here so here goes.

WOW! 6 stars! Well worth the money I paid. I believe this game can become a serious contender to World of Warships. The game is challenging but by having fully customizable vessels I don't become discouraged. Instead of building tactics to match the vessel you can build ships to match your tactics.

A few things I would like to experiment with in the next update.

Coastal defense vessels "or Monitors, which ever floats your boat 😁".

Submarines capable of carrying up to 11 inch rifles and/or long range operations.

Seaplane catapults treated as turrets in small "two seat", medium "three seat", large "four seat and up".

Patrol torpedo boats added as the final form of torpedo boats.

(ps I play from a laptop so f11 is the dimmer button. Could snapshot be moved to f10 instead.)

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4 hours ago, MrStan53 said:

Why does it have to be about ideology at all? I mean I am on the left yet you won’t see me talking about Noam Chomsky and tying it into the discussion in one way or another. It’s about the fact that we’re here to discuss this game as well as to a lesser extent naval history, and that this just isn’t the place to grandstand people for political reasons regardless of your own. If anyone wanted to discuss politics then they should take it elsewhere like a classroom, library, or debate club not a video game forum. 

If you're going to make a post, at least follow the context so you don't look biased.

Some tard made a post on this forum going "WAHHHH NAZI AVATARS AND PEOPLE ON MUH FORUM", some people reply to said person saying 'who cares if there's nazis, grow up', causing further people to complain about imaginary nazis which people can, and will defend because its ridiculous to call everyone under the sun a nazi just for being different. In hindsight I think that's called being a bigot?

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19 hours ago, MrStan53 said:

Why does it have to be about ideology at all? I mean I am on the left yet you won’t see me talking about Noam Chomsky and tying it into the discussion in one way or another. It’s about the fact that we’re here to discuss this game as well as to a lesser extent naval history, and that this just isn’t the place to grandstand people for political reasons regardless of your own. If anyone wanted to discuss politics then they should take it elsewhere like a classroom, library, or debate club not a video game forum. 

Its not about ideology, some people had german admiral avatars and some insignia(not swastika more like iron cross) some weakling got buthurt and hurrdurred at them and they laughed at him as they should. And then people started calling eachother nazis n shit. Lets just get an update so we can have a new thread and forget about all that stupid stuff ok? 

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5 minutes ago, DerRichtigeArzt said:

Its not about ideology, some people had german admiral avatars and some insignia(not swastika more like iron cross) some weakling got buthurt and hurrdurred at them and they laughed at him as they should. And then people started calling eachother nazis n shit. Lets just get an update so we can have a new thread and forget about all that stupid stuff ok? 

*Nervously looks at profile picture of a Iron Cross.* Uhhhhh this means nothing.

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52 minutes ago, CapnAvont1015 said:

*Nervously looks at profile picture of a Iron Cross.* Uhhhhh this means nothing.

If the current German Frigate *Emden* can have it's Iron Cross, I don't see the issue.

 

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3 hours ago, DerRichtigeArzt said:

Its not about ideology, some people had german admiral avatars and some insignia(not swastika more like iron cross) some weakling got buthurt and hurrdurred at them and they laughed at him as they should. And then people started calling eachother nazis n shit. Lets just get an update so we can have a new thread and forget about all that stupid stuff ok? 

I don't remember anyone complaining about an Iron Cross  (which predates the Nazi rise) or anything about an admiral. I remember an SS cap and uniform. 

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12 hours ago, Nick Thomadis said:

In the upcoming update you will be able to design all your ships in custom battles. Enemy ships design could be offered later, according to our time.

 

he has returned

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3 hours ago, SodaBit said:

Thank god, maybe we can stop talking about politics and ideology and get back to talking about the game soon

Another update from nick should help bury that further. Be interesting too see how big this patch will be and all the things it will include.

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9 hours ago, Cptbarney said:

Another update from nick should help bury that further. Be interesting too see how big this patch will be and all the things it will include.

hopefully the pre release post comes out sometime this month

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I was hoping we could design enemy ships. It has been more than a year now since we requested custom battle to be expanded. The AI ship designs are atrocious and sometimes downright impossible irl. Let's not touch on the fact that when I want a fair fight, I want a fair fight. I don't want the AI to build a bazillion dollar ship to counter my 8 million dollar cruiser. When I want to build a ship that can be produced in numbers but with some quality, I don't want 1 of them to fight a ship of the same class that has YAMATO-COPY stamped on the side. Or vice versa, so many times I wanted to test a decent battleship build and the AI built a shitty HMS Captain copy that would sink if a breeze went by.

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3 hours ago, ColonelHenry said:

It has been more than a year now since we requested......

 

It's been more than a year since I and others requested things like functional echelon turrets and more predreadnought hulls. Okay I mostly requested the echelon turrets, but still. These things fall on deaf ears. 

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21 hours ago, ColonelHenry said:

I was hoping we could design enemy ships. It has been more than a year now since we requested custom battle to be expanded. The AI ship designs are atrocious and sometimes downright impossible irl. Let's not touch on the fact that when I want a fair fight, I want a fair fight. I don't want the AI to build a bazillion dollar ship to counter my 8 million dollar cruiser. When I want to build a ship that can be produced in numbers but with some quality, I don't want 1 of them to fight a ship of the same class that has YAMATO-COPY stamped on the side. Or vice versa, so many times I wanted to test a decent battleship build and the AI built a shitty HMS Captain copy that would sink if a breeze went by.

Or the AI builds unreasonably overgunned ships with outright horrible and or near non-existent armor for the ship class which somehow almost never explode while also having GPS guided projectiles levels of accuracy while the player gets significantly less hits with superior levels of range finding equipment.

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14 hours ago, Noobito said:

Or the AI builds unreasonably overgunned ships with outright horrible and or near non-existent armor for the ship class which somehow almost never explode while also having GPS guided projectiles levels of accuracy while the player gets significantly less hits. Sometimes even with superior range finding technology over the AI

Well it could be that they stack other stats like stability. This game has so many things that could be clearer to the player, giving them info that actually matters. But as it stands, everything is on the right side panel, look at it, or don't and make your ship look as good as your eyes desire (which is also limited by the atrocious ship building mechanic, or lack thereof)

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On 8/5/2021 at 2:08 AM, Steeltrap said:

On the off chance anyone's interested in just one illustration of the sort of stuff I was tossing out for discussion re WotS, here's a link to one such post:

Post in War on the Sea suggestions forum in Steam

I don't think much has been done to address these, although that's in no small part due to the fact the game was barely deserving of the term 'beta test ready' when sold as a complete product (something I wish for which there were some SERIOUS implications for devs that do it). They had (and have) SO many things needing work that something that gives the appearance of working apparently is good enough in their eyes, at least for now.

It kind of looks like they're doing the Perpetual Beta thing that's popular now. I get it, there are advantages to it, but I also feel like the pressure of needing to get a CD ready to ship, that wouldn't be patched potentially forever was good for quality control. It's good that they're changing things like how aerial bombs work:

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Further Bomb Damage Model Improvements
Bomb hits to a destroyed compartment are always considered to have penetrated armor
Armor penetration required to set of a magazine explosion from a direct bomb hit
A flooded magazine is 50% less likely to explode

But to your point, Great Naval Battles: North Atlantic had to get it right from the start. 

lol of course part of the advantage to this development model is the ability to receive feedback and make changes accordingly, but I digress. 

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Just to clarify, this is not because somebody saw an Iron Cross somewhere. We all know about the Imperial Army and the Bundeswehr. This is also not about people frivolously making accusations against their internet enemies, or cheapening the term. This was a response to some pretty cut and dry posting, that IMO should have caught a ban from Admins. 

On Wehrmacht involvement in War Crimes:

On 6/22/2021 at 9:44 AM, Elrerune The Honorbound said:

Everyone is free to believe in what they want including myths about "myths".

LMAO I avoid those pseudo authors pseudo historians like the devil himself. They are on my black list for all time. I have enough books by legitimate German and Italian sources not written with the filter glasses of British or American authors.

On the Bismarck being sunk: 

On 6/22/2021 at 7:56 AM, Elrerune The Honorbound said:

By cowardly tricks from spineless personalities without ideals.

The important part of this is bolded. What ideals did the British not have that the Third Reich did I wonder? 

On the overall legacy of The Third Reich and NSDAP:

On 6/22/2021 at 7:48 AM, Elrerune The Honorbound said:

No need. History teaches me everything. I do not need to learn from those who constantly try to rewrite history.

Another way to put it is “History is Written by Victors.” and that's the version of history I definitely have no intention of doing homework on.

 

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3 hours ago, DougToss said:

Just to clarify, this is not because somebody saw an Iron Cross somewhere. We all know about the Imperial Army and the Bundeswehr. This is also not about people frivolously making accusations against their internet enemies, or cheapening the term. This was a response to some pretty cut and dry posting, that IMO should have caught a ban from Admins. 

On Wehrmacht involvement in War Crimes:

On the Bismarck being sunk: 

The important part of this is bolded. What ideals did the British not have that the Third Reich did I wonder? 

On the overall legacy of The Third Reich and NSDAP:

 

LULE History is written by the victor. How can you believe that while living in the age of free information?

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