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Hoi lads.

With April fools rapidly approaching i was wondering what the community would like too see ship-wise for the event (Assuming there will be one). I figure it would be a good excuse to add in some of the more unusual ships that existed and potentially see them in game. Going off the theme of the previous fools event i decided to focus on ships from 1870-1905.

The ships i want too see are the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(1892)

USS Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus-class_ironclad

Colossus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Inflexible_(1876)

Inflexible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_ironclad_Asar-i_Tevfik

Would be a very unique ship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re_Umberto-class_ironclad

Very good looker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Arminius

Again a very unusual ship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-class_ironclad

Armoured frigate lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia-class_ironclad

goodin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Redoutable

The first all steel ship, historically important

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Kronprinz_Erzherzog_Rudolf

Very unusual ship again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_battleship_Riachuelo

Historically important.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Almirante_Brown_(1880)

why not lol.

Feel free to post what you like too see in this event or future fool events and if it isn't coming this year, then we can use these suggestions for the next or maybe future patches as well. Even if they don't add them into the campaign, playing with them in customs and academy would be fine for me too be honest.

Have a noice day!

'w'/

EDIT: Some grammar checks and extra info.

02/12/2021: So since, the devs have announced they will focus more on pre-dreads and similar, i thought it would make sense to update this thread and simply allow people to use this as a place to talk about ships between 1860-1922, of all classes (yes even cv's and soobs).

Cheers.

 

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Just now, o Barão said:

I don't consider the Popov ideas to be a "joke" but they are a nice suggestion for April fools.

There gud jokes, cus they work when they shouldn't and they look dumb, but interesting. Too be fair i would say they are memes which is better than a joke.

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1 minute ago, Cptbarney said:

There gud jokes, cus they work when they shouldn't and they look dumb, but interesting. Too be fair i would say they are memes which is better than a joke.

I remember watching Drachnifel video about this ship and the other Popov creation, The imperial russian Yatch.  Where the Yatch show the "circular" design flaws when sailing in open sea , the russian monitor looks to be a good design solution to carry big guns in shallow waters.

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Roundships were a solution to carry bug guns under VERY tight limitations on specifically ship's length. And they did not actually work, they were terrible at just about everything, except maybe stability. But it was a time when everything and everywhere was "bad", luckily.

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4 hours ago, Cptbarney said:

Hoi lads.

With April fools rapidly approaching i was wondering what the community would like too see ship-wise for the event (Assuming there will be one). I figure it would be a good excuse to add in some of the more unusual ships that existed and potentially see them in game. Going off the theme of the previous fools event i decided to focus on ships from 1870-1905.

The ships i want too see are the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(1892)

USS Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus-class_ironclad

Colossus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Inflexible_(1876)

Inflexible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_ironclad_Asar-i_Tevfik

Would be a very unique ship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re_Umberto-class_ironclad

Very good looker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Arminius

Again a very unusual ship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-class_ironclad

Armoured frigate lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia-class_ironclad

goodin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Redoutable

The first all steel ship, historically important

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Kronprinz_Erzherzog_Rudolf

Very unusual ship again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_battleship_Riachuelo

Historically important.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Almirante_Brown_(1880)

why not lol.

Feel free to post what you like too see in this event or future fool events and if it isn't coming this year, then we can use these suggestions for the next or maybe future patches as well. Even if they don't add them into the campaign, playing with them in customs and academy would be fine for me too be honest.

Have a noice day!

'w'/

EDIT: Some grammar checks and extra info.

OH MY GOD! YES PLS I NEED THEM!!44!

Seriously, all I want is some ironclads or pre-dreadnoughts. I want some variety. We need more hulls.

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Is this because they released the Virginia and Monitor last April Fools? That was an awesome not-joke. I'd like to suggest HMS Devastation as the true starting point for the Ironclad era that plays well with the setting of the game. Devastation was the first oceangoing, internally powered, turreted warship of the age, and thus checks all the performance boxes the game can accurately represent without inventing whole new mechanics. Starting out around this tech level gives the campaign a long period to develop as well.

 

HMS Devastation (1871).jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Devastation_(1871)

 

 

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4 minutes ago, VarangianGarde said:

Is this because they released the Virginia and Monitor last April Fools? That was an awesome not-joke. I'd like to suggest HMS Devastation as the true starting point for the Ironclad era that plays well with the setting of the game. Devastation was the first oceangoing, internally powered, turreted warship of the age, and thus checks all the performance boxes the game can accurately represent without inventing whole new mechanics. Starting out around this tech level gives the campaign a long period to develop as well.

 

HMS Devastation (1871).jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Devastation_(1871)

 

 

Yeah and also because i want moar old boags as well. HMS devastation would be excellent to have as i consider her the prototype to the pre-dreads and other ships after her, like overall mother of ships from then till now. Also yes would love starting around 1870-1875 as this would give us a longer period with pre-dreads and ironclads, although we will need quite a few ships for it too be more fulfilling as well.

Surprised i didnt mention her myself really.

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1 hour ago, Cptbarney said:

Yeah and also because i want moar old boags as well. HMS devastation would be excellent to have as i consider her the prototype to the pre-dreads and other ships after her, like overall mother of ships from then till now. Also yes would love starting around 1870-1875 as this would give us a longer period with pre-dreads and ironclads, although we will need quite a few ships for it too be more fulfilling as well.

Surprised i didnt mention her myself really.

I absolutely agree. (Also HMS Devastation is very good idea). Starting earlier would be very nice. I am thinking about 1880. So we can start out with a basic ironclad fleet, and than we have to upgrade the fleet. (Research new technologies etc..) So we have to build the pre-dreadnoughts and scrap the older ships (or we can keep them as museum ships or training ships)

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15 minutes ago, Cptbarney said:

HMS devastation would be excellent to have as i consider her the prototype to the pre-dreads and other ships after her, like overall mother of ships from then till now. Also yes would love starting around 1870-1875 as this would give us a longer period with pre-dreads and ironclads, although we will need quite a few ships for it too be more fulfilling as well.

I totally agree. The more I think about it, you could have three conceptual eras during the time span the game covers. All ships of the period have to balance speed, armor, and firepower. Each era brings a different revolution in one of these facets. The game already covers the Pre-Dreadnought and Dreadnought period, but I think it'd be really cool to see the Ironclad era.

 

Ironclads: Excluding the 1840-60's variants, once all steam propulsion became standardized, you have the three major components of the game set. The ironclad era was marked by the initial dominance of armor. By the time of HMS Devastation, you have belt armor, Marine Steam engines, turreted guns, and recognizable superstructure and funnels, thus checking the initial dominance of armor by the growth of heavy guns and the "ram craze." I kinda love this period because there's such a wide and crazy variety of ships using all manner of different operating principles. This is also the time when the Jeune Ecole had its brief run. From small fixed mount gunboats to "torpedo rams" to early behemoths such as Devastation and Caio Duilio, this period probably has the most wild "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" feel to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-iron_gunboat

HMS Kite, an Ant-class "flat-iron" gunboat launched in 1871, made a harbour  tender in 1905, then rearmed with 6 inch and 4.7 inch guns, serving off the  Belgian Coast, 1914 [757 × 475] : WarshipPorn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Polyphemus_(1881)

220px-HMS_Polyphemus_diagrams_Brasseys_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ironclad_Caio_Duilio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_cruiser

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Marshall99 said:

I absolutely agree. (Also HMS Devastation is very good idea). Starting earlier would be very nice. I am thinking about 1880. So we can start out with a basic ironclad fleet, and than we have to upgrade the fleet. (Research new technologies etc..) So we have to build the pre-dreadnoughts and scrap the older ships (or we can keep them as museum ships or training ships)

Or even gun practice like poor miss texas (1885), would give the game a lot more depth as well to the ships you make and use. Hell even probs start a thread on here for 'famous' or 'infamous shipfus in the future lol.

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