Leficent Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 18 inch guns on these tiny barbettes . 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelidai Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I guess they're really counting on some 1931 helicopter technology with all this deck space... Two big 15 inch turrets and a single 3 inch turret to... balance it out?? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littorio Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 So I found this ugly CL. A single 4" shielded gun on the bow, with two 6" turrets aft, and that's it! Nothing else, no secondaries, no torpedoes, nothing at all. What a bizarre design. Perfect for stern chases 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whomst'd've Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) What I built: A 40K ton, 22 knot, 8 13inch gun monster with a 16.9 inch main belt! What the AI Built: Edited December 24, 2021 by Whomst'd've 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_Hawkeye Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Maybe someone should teach the AI that, while this design has all it's main guns forward of the bridge, this is not what an All-Forward design is supposed to look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littorio Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Whomst'd've said: What I built: A 40K ton, 22 knot, 8 13inch gun monster with a 16.9 inch main belt! What the AI Built: 4 hours ago, The_Real_Hawkeye said: Maybe someone should teach the AI that, while this design has all it's main guns forward of the bridge, this is not what an All-Forward design is supposed to look like. I can't stand these small guns on large barbettes and large guns on small barbettes. Plus putting the smaller guns, barbette or not, closer in towards the center of the hull, and leaving the larger guns out towards the bow/stern, can't be good for the weight distribution... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelidai Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Four large funnels only to go 20 knots? Their sailors must be choking on all that smoke. That 6" turret hiding behind those 5" ones is the cherry on top. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AurumCorvus Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 12:19 PM, Littorio said: I can't stand these small guns on large barbettes and large guns on small barbettes. Plus putting the smaller guns, barbette or not, closer in towards the center of the hull, and leaving the larger guns out towards the bow/stern, can't be good for the weight distribution... What I never understood was why barbettes weren't just linked directly to the turrets. You choose your caliber and then you choose if you want the superfiring w/ barbette or just the turret (or the extra tall barbette for the small guns capable of it). Rather, we have a lot of excess barbettes in an awkward situation that honestly doesn't do much. You have the optimum barbettes, and anything bigger is wasted weight. Honestly, that change might also stop the AI from creating a lot of these clown cars as well. But it's probably too late now as a lot of the ship designer code is probably set in stone. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, AurumCorvus said: What I never understood was why barbettes weren't just linked directly to the turrets. You choose your caliber and then you choose if you want the superfiring w/ barbette or just the turret (or the extra tall barbette for the small guns capable of it). Rather, we have a lot of excess barbettes in an awkward situation that honestly doesn't do much. You have the optimum barbettes, and anything bigger is wasted weight. That would certainly work a thousand times better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Sattler Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) I saw this in the battles, so used the save-game file to get a proper screenshot of this nice looking CL the Brits designed in the 1940 campaign. Leaving aside the issue of the torpedo launchers that clip into the super-structure and 2" guns... they use singe-gun turrets on a light cruiser in 1940. oO Edited December 28, 2021 by Norbert Sattler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littorio Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Norbert Sattler said: I saw this in the battles, so used the save-game file to get a proper screenshot of this nice looking CL the Brits designed in the 1940 campaign. Leaving aside the issue of the torpedo launchers that clip into the super-structure and 2" guns... they use singe-gun turrets on a light cruiser in 1940. oO It seems like the AI can routinely make ships that us mere mortals cannot. I hope this is a priority going forward for the devs. Whatever they can make, we should be able to and vice versa. It seems particularly bad sometimes given small secondary guns on various superstructures. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littorio Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Littorio said: It seems particularly bad sometimes given small secondary guns on various superstructures. And at the risk of quoting myself but appearing vain, I have here a perfect example with the new 1.01 update of what I was talking about (among other AI shipbuilding woes):....it appears something is wrong with the uploader? I'm limited to "1.44MB" max size? Most screenshots are larger. Anyone else have a sudden uploader issue here? Edited December 29, 2021 by Littorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelidai Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Quote Leaving aside the issue of the torpedo launchers that clip into the super-structure and 2" guns... they use singe-gun turrets on a light cruiser in 1940. oO I've noticed this in almost every 1940's campaign I start. The AI loves single-gun turrets in 1940 for some reason us feeble humans cannot understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AurumCorvus Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Phelidai said: I've noticed this in almost every 1940's campaign I start. The AI loves single-gun turrets in 1940 for some reason us feeble humans cannot understand. Obviously, it is prolonging its inevitable demise by making you knock out more turrets, which requires you to expend more ammunition and which will require you to hit the ship more times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schirüno Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 That is one well armed tanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelHenry Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/28/2021 at 9:37 PM, Littorio said: And at the risk of quoting myself but appearing vain, I have here a perfect example with the new 1.01 update of what I was talking about (among other AI shipbuilding woes):....it appears something is wrong with the uploader? I'm limited to "1.44MB" max size? Most screenshots are larger. Anyone else have a sudden uploader issue here? Always upload to imgur and then link the image here. I never had any luck with uploading image directly to this site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm.Hawklyn Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 So, this was one of my earlier designs with one of the older versions. I am aware of the engineering issues this would present, still would be interesting to hear thoughts on the near full stern loadout setup. This is what I call a "kiter" running away while angled and firing. I think hearing your thoughts would prove amusing at least. I already know the engineering would be an absolute nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Sattler Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Why did you put the two most-forward turrets in the back though? I understand the tripple-stacked superfiring ones, but with those three back turrets in the way, the other two couldn't fire back anyway, so why not put one of both of them up front for better weight balance and being able to fire to the front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm.Hawklyn Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 It was more an experiment to see if it could be done than anything else. I agree with you myself really, but I have designs like what you're saying... And I've also designed like abcd and then a y turret too, or a then wxyz Trust me, I've got most turret set ups done somewhere... Even the 7 turret, 21 gun 17" super battleship. Or, the 7 turret 28 gun 16" version... I'd try for eight, but I dont think the game allows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Sattler Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Something that I had fun with was a centerline turret firing over a pair of side-by-side turrets, both in a full frontal or a full rear configuration with either tripples or quads. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littorio Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 3:41 AM, ColonelHenry said: Always upload to imgur and then link the image here. I never had any luck with uploading image directly to this site. Thanks for the tip. It's odd, I never had issues before the other night and now it's weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop120 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Thought yall might like this CA waiting for some float planes or helis with his deck space... 2x3x9ins 1x3x5in and 1x3x3in that I couldnt even see anywhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpardaSon21 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Bishop120 said: Thought yall might like this CA waiting for some float planes or helis with his deck space... 2x3x9ins 1x3x5in and 1x3x3in that I couldnt even see anywhere.. If you mouse over the gun icon on the ship's info panel on the right it will get a bright yellow highlighted outline over its position on the ship itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelidai Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Quote Thought yall might like this CA waiting for some float planes or helis with his deck space... 2x3x9ins 1x3x5in and 1x3x3in that I couldnt even see anywhere.. Am I seeing double?? This looks just like a heavy crusier version of a clown car I posted here the other day! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Meow Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) The most scary cruiser enemy could have! (only single gun at forecastle) Only Russians can have 8x178mm guns on a light cruiser... Edited January 7, 2022 by Captain Meow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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