dynd Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Here is a tally of the amount of ships per (original) nation. Trade ships not included. Non-confirmed light-grey ships also not included, two 1st half 2016 ships are included based on current winners in the poll. Great Britain: 8 United States: 4 Russia/Denmark: 4 France: 3 Sweden: 2 Spain: 2 Dutch Republic: 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It's too early to tell what ships are going to win the poll right now, IMO. I agree that Diana seems to basically be guaranteed with the way things are going, but 2nd place has been going back and forth for a while, with Admiraal de Ruyter, Venus, and Christian VII all being in 2nd at one time or another. For the past couple of days, Venus and Christian VII have been trading the spot, alternatively leading or being led by just a couple of votes. It seems too early to tell which ship will take 2nd place, then, and we also won't know what the developer wildcard is going to be until the devs tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 i dont really like the look of Christian VII the complet Straight Walls are not really as apearling as a more rounder shape of Vic or the Ocean. or even Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusterGut Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) La Renommée was a 40 gun frigate of the Pallas class She became HMS Java in the Royal Navy, where she was equipped with 38 guns but was captured by USS Constitution (44 guns) lol this is the 1808 one. Edited March 5, 2016 by BusterGut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Quote i dont really like the look of Christian VII the complet Straight Walls are not really as apearling as a more rounder shape of Vic or the Ocean. or even Bellona Doesn´t look that straight to me Edited April 5, 2019 by Malachi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehuty Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Here is a tally of the amount of ships per (original) nation. Trade ships not included. Non-confirmed light-grey ships also not included, two 1st half 2016 ships are included based on current winners in the poll. Great Britain: 8 United States: 4 Russia/Denmark: 4 France: 3 Sweden: 2 Spain: 2 Dutch Republic: 0 I'm kinda sad that this game still doesn't have any Dutch ships in it. Next to being a world power for quite a while , they had the strongest navy in the 17th century. But somehow games like this never have any or only a couple Dutch ships in it, while it was one of the most powerful nations during the age of sail. It's a shame , because they had loads of beautiful looking ships. I still hope I can sail ''De Zeven Provinciën'' in the future , but I'm happy with whatever Dutch ships they bring into the game. Edited March 15, 2016 by Jehuty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Doesn´t look that straight to me Unbenannt.jpg I think the tub-like appearance looks kinda cool, makes it look larger and more menacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 36 gun ports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Where did that picture come from? It's very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It looks like one of the blueprints I saw from the merchant thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 it is certanly not and it wasnt suposed to shown yet good luck on finding information about her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 good luck on finding information about her "Good luck," as in "You're not going to have any luck"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) It looks like one of the blueprints I saw from the merchant thread. It's a chapman design. This her model but I don't think it's the same as prater's http://www.modelships.de/French-40-gun-frigate/Photos-French-40-gun-frigate.htm Edited March 23, 2016 by Sella22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 36 gun ports. This was supposed to be a razeee from pavel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 This is a was supposed to be a razeee from pavel A Razeed Pavel?! Oh my i hope you guys finish that project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 A razeed Pavel? Is there any historical basis for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 A razeed Pavel? Is there any historical basis for that? I don't think so. Would be a shame if the most powerful frigate in game were pure fantasy, especially when there are Russian heavy frigates that could be made. I hope it is abandoned project with resources redirected to historical ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 A razeed Pavel? Is there any historical basis for that? Making a razee out of an 80-gun ship would be a very strange decision because most razees were made out of older, less useful SoLs. 80-gunners were expensive, top-of-the-line ships. And even if you did have an older 80-gunner, the great length of these vessels made them wear out very quickly, so a razee would be hogged and useless in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Only St. Pavel class ships that were re-classed, that I could find so far were the 'Sviatoi Andrei Pervozvannyy' (1758) and the 'Chesma' (1770) and the 'Sviatoi Kliment Papa Rimskii' (1758) Russian Warships in the Age of Sail John Tredrea and Eduard Sozaev main source threedecks.org all of them to 74 and 72 guns. Given most of the ships in the class were sold/decommissioned maybe some has been razeed and brought back ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Making a razee out of an 80-gun ship would be a very strange decision because most razees were made out of older, less useful SoLs. 80-gunners were expensive, top-of-the-line ships. And even if you did have an older 80-gunner, the great length of these vessels made them wear out very quickly, so a razee would be hogged and useless in a few years. I hadn't thought of that. What had occurred to me, though, was that given the size of an 80-gunner, that would be one big frigate once you'd razeed her. It seems to me that that would make for a kinda weird-looking ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem van der Decken Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) I still hope I can sail ''De Zeven Provinciën'' in the future , but I'm happy with whatever Dutch ships they bring into the game. The SOL or it's predecessor the Gallion? Edited March 23, 2016 by Willem van der Decken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 we get the option to razee ships Agammenom-Indefatigable and now Pavel-Kepler nothing to be that mad about 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Oh, so you'll be able to choose to raze your two-deckers down to frigates? I'm interested, but... wary. If that option is going to be available for all two-deckers, how many of the resulting razees will be historically accurate? Two-deckers were very common ships. Razees... not so much. You might run out of historical razees to implement, especially when you start dealing with two-deckers from nations that weren't in the habit of razeeing their ships. Edited March 23, 2016 by Arvenski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 A razee requires almost as much work as a new ship, I'd imagine. So there should be little danger of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Oh, so you'll be able to choose to raze your two-deckers down to frigates? I'm interested, but... wary. If that option is going to be available for all two-deckers, how many of the resulting razees will be historically accurate? Two-deckers were very common ships. Razees... not so much. You might run out of historical razees to implement, especially when you start dealing with two-deckers from nations that weren't in the habit of razeeing their ships. Plus the sailing/floating characteristics are severely different and hard to match to hypothetical reconstructions without any documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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