New ship - Spain

[Galvez88]

Hello, on many occasions I have made public in the forum my call to develop another Spanish ship, I will not spam the forum, but if I would like to tell you that the Spanish community is large and we agree that it would be good for the game to develop a ship Spanish that fills the gaps between rank 5 (Diana) and rank 1 (Santisima trinidad), for example the ship san juan nepomuceno or the montañes, or the glorioso. there are many examples and with pleasure in the naval museum of madrid they would help you.

My intention is not to create controversy, but rather to express my opinion about the possible future ships that may arrive at the game

 

 

San Juan Nepomuceno : 74 guns

participated in the battle of Trafalgar.

Wood, metal and string (length, 408 cm; strut, 178 cm; sleeve, 126 cm). Anonymous author (S.XVIII); presented in the stands, ready for launch; full starboard side, the port side enrod; totally treeless.

The San Juan Nepomuceno ship, with two bridges and 74 guns, was built in Guarnizo in 1766 for a seat signed with Manuel de Zubiría and a project by Francisco Gautier. From its location, the Navy was assigned to the squadron stationed in Ferrol. Integrated in the squad of General José de Córdoba, who fought the battle of San Vicente, he did not participate in the action (1797). He was in Brest with Mazarredo's squad (1799-1802). Commanded by the Brigadier of the Royal Navy, Cosme Damián Churruca, he fought prominently in Trafalgar, being captured by the British, after his commander died, and the crew, 100 dead and 150 wounded (October 21, 1805). He served in the English Navy under the name San Juan; in 1808 it was used for the reception of authorities, and in 1818 it was sold.

https://armada.defensa.gob.es/ArmadaPortal/page/Portal/ArmadaEspannola/conocenoshistoria/prefLang-es/02batallascelebres--02combatenavales--02buques--02buque2-es

 

Santa Ana 112 guns

The Santa Ana Ship was built in El Ferrol in 1784, with plans by José Romero and Fernández de Landa. At the command of the captain of the Gardoqui ship, with the insignia of the lieutenant general of the army Ignacio M. de Alava, he had an outstanding participation in the Combat of Trafalgar (October 21, 1805), fighting fiercely with the English ship Royal Sovereign, insignia Admiral Collingwood; Both ships were destroyed, the Spanish with 97 deaths and 141 wounded, including the general and the commander.

In 1808 he attended the combat and surrender of Admiral Rosily's French squad in Cádiz. In November 1810 he moved to Havana, in whose arsenal he collapsed in 1816 for lack of a hull.

 

Montañes 74 guns

74-gun ship. Built in El Ferrol and launched in 1794. He formed in the Spanish-French Combined Squadron of Admiral Villeneuve, commanded by C.N. Alsedo, taking part in the action of Trafalgar on October 21, 1805, with the British Admiral Sir H. Nelson. Lost by storm in the bay of Cádiz in March 1810, sent by D.J. from Quevedo.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Galvez88

[Henry d'Esterre Darby]

Do you have any copies of detailed deck/sail plans, performance data, etc?

[Galvez88]

Another possibility would be to develop the Montañes or the Santa Ana ship.

[Galvez88]

15 hours ago, Henry d'Esterre Darby said:

Do you have any copies of detailed deck/sail plans, performance data, etc?

https://armada.defensa.gob.es/ArmadaPortal/page/Portal/ArmadaEspannola/conocenoshistoria/prefLang-es/02batallascelebres--02combatenavales--02buques--02buque2-es

the plans are for sale at the madrid naval museum. sometimes they are given away for work. i dont have the plans sorry

Edited June 30, 2020 by Galvez88

[mikawa]

Nice Ship, definitely worth a look.

[Galvez88]

5 minutes ago, mikawa said:

Nice Ship, definitely worth a look.

which one do you like the most? are three different ships

[mikawa]

21 hours ago, Galvez88 said:

San Juan Nepomuceno : 74 guns

I meant OP - Nepomuceno

[Galvez88]

15 minutes ago, mikawa said:

I meant OP - Nepomuceno

It is a ship with a great history, it would be good to see it here.

[Ringeck]

We definitly need more spanish ships!!!

So either this one or the Montanes Class, both are really nice

[DonH]

They are all beautiful, but yes there is not many Spanish ships in game at the moment, we could do with one or two more, even frigates, all of the Spanish frigates in game are event ships... which are not available to all players, by crafting or DLCs, right now to sail a proper Spanish ship you have to level up all the way up to 1st rates to get a Santísima Trinidad. That is a long grind, also very discouraging for new players wanting to sail some Spanish beauties.

We could even take a look at spanish brigs, there was "a few" of this around el Caribe, they could add variety to the shallows which right now is a bit of a forgotten part of the game.

my 2 dubs

[Galvez88]

we need more spanish ships. The Madrid Naval Museum is a must-see.

[Galvez88]

42 minutes ago, DonH said:

They are all beautiful, but yes there is not many Spanish ships in game at the moment, we could do with one or two more, even frigates, all of the Spanish frigates in game are event ships... which are not available to all players, by crafting or DLCs, right now to sail a proper Spanish ship you have to level up all the way up to 1st rates to get a Santísima Trinidad. That is a long grind, also very discouraging for new players wanting to sail some Spanish beauties.

We could even take a look at spanish brigs, there was "a few" of this around el Caribe, they could add variety to the shallows which right now is a bit of a forgotten part of the game.

my 2 dubs

I prefer that they develop bigger ships. I would not mind seeing a Spanish ship rank 6 but I prefer large ships.

[Hethwill]

The San Juan Nepomuceno

Lifetime until Trafalgar = 39 years
Experienced 9 careens, one afloat in La Habana
Blocked in Brest for 2.5 years = 6.5 %
Disarmed during 5 periods, totalling about 10 years = 25 %

The Santa Ana

Lifetime until Trafalgar = 21 years
Regularly careened every three years
Disarmed most of her lifetime: 8 years plus 6 drydocking periods
Short periods of activity, totalling little over 5 years.
Not involved in battles

[Galvez88]

4 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

The San Juan Nepomuceno

Lifetime until Trafalgar = 39 years
Experienced 9 careens, one afloat in La Habana
Blocked in Brest for 2.5 years = 6.5 %
Disarmed during 5 periods, totalling about 10 years = 25 %

The Santa Ana

Lifetime until Trafalgar = 21 years
Regularly careened every three years
Disarmed most of her lifetime: 8 years plus 6 drydocking periods
Short periods of activity, totalling little over 5 years.
Not involved in battles

Which do you think would be more possible to see in the future? There is also the possibility of a ship "El Glorioso" or a ship "San Ildefonso" or a ship "Rayo"
what do you think?

thanks

[Hethwill]

Being a player same as you i am happy with all ships. I prefer unrated vessels, but that's a personal thing.

Given the popularity, both in RL and in game, of 3rd rates, i'd say a new 74 gun ship could be nice.

[Galvez88]

3 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

Being a player same as you i am happy with all ships. I prefer unrated vessels, but that's a personal thing.

Given the popularity, both in RL and in game, of 3rd rates, i'd say a new 74 gun ship could be nice.

I think the same as you. The Montañes ship or the San Juan Nepomuceno ship then have some possibility. they have 74 cannons. El Montañes is highly requested, we all hope to see it

won a survey years ago

 

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

Every ship is most welcome for me and surely for the majority of all players. Personnally I´d love to see and sail another nice Brig :)

[Galvez88]

 Ship “Glorioso” range 4

guns : 70 max

1747

Edited June 30, 2020 by Galvez88

[Galvez88]

1 hour ago, Hethwill said:

Being a player same as you i am happy with all ships. I prefer unrated vessels, but that's a personal thing.

Given the popularity, both in RL and in game, of 3rd rates, i'd say a new 74 gun ship could be nice.

Oops I need your help. I wanted to publish this post in naval action. am I in another game forum? could you move the post

[Hethwill]

33 minutes ago, Galvez88 said:

Oops I need your help. I wanted to publish this post in naval action. am I in another game forum? could you move the post

PM sent.

[Galvez88]

1 hour ago, Genevieve Malfleurs said:

Every ship is most welcome for me and surely for the majority of all players. Personnally I´d love to see and sail another nice Brig

Yes, although the ships of Spain used to be characterized by their robustness and not very good speed. They were generally heavy ships but very difficult to sink

[Cid]

Os recomiendo leer la historia en "Todo a Babor" supongo la conoceréis.

[Redman29]

If I recall at one time there was talk about adding the Montañes to the game. 

Don't ever know what really came out that though. 

[Galvez88]

1 hour ago, Redman29 said:

If I recall at one time there was talk about adding the Montañes to the game. 

Don't ever know what really came out that though. 

That's right, a survey was carried out years ago and the winning ship was the Montañes class

[DonH]

I would love to see El Glorioso, his history and the looks of it... But hey there is so much lack of Spanish ships that it does not matter whatever the ship they put in, will be played, a lot.