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Short range musket fire, very efficient to kill the crew of nearby lower vessels. The crew has to be assigned to that task, like sailing or boarding and is missing on other stations, marines are

Water depth and ships draft The whole map (OW and battle instance incl PB) shall have a defined water depth, not only shallow and deep). Battles near the coast will become a way more interes

Loading of different ammunition on different decks.

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I'd like to see the option to repair fleet ships in a battle instance. This could be listed as one of the command we can give to fleet ships i.e accessed via the M/Map command key. Repairs could only be carried out if the fleet ship was actually carrying repairs.

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Be able to put a bounty on an enemy player for your clan and/or friendly clans. A clan member/friend of the clan kills the target and gets the bounty automatically.

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Ships speeds and diversity

Right now we have some very fast ships with very heavy broadsides, which makes some smaller and slower ships with less broadside weight obsolete.

From the historical point of view it depended on the weather conditions if the big or the small ship was faster and, of course, of the individual best point of sail. This game shows only one weather (even if there is sometimes rain), giving one specific speed for each vessel.

The result of this is that quite a few ships are barely used by players, since they offer no advantage to their bigger counterparts (not faster, less hitpoints, less broadside weight).

To increase the diversity and to encourage sailing the not so loved ships I propose the following (only for gameplay reasons, not for historical facts):

- The bigger a ship is and the heavier the broadside weight, the slower its speed shall be (when build of the same woods and the same port bonus)

The fastest ships in game will be the 7th rates, the slowest the 1st rates, even within the same class the rule shall be applied. In the 5th rate tier the fastest ship shall be the Cerberus and Pandora, the slowest Endymion and Trincomalee. With this rule, the frigate or pirate frigate can be a good choice, since they can escape from the bigger frigates and therefore would be seen more frequently on the open waters.

It is then that you can choose between firepower and speed. It will be difficult for players to attack and sink other players in smaller ships, so more even fights are encouraged. The default speed difference between the ships tiers must be significant, like 0.75 knots.

The same, at lower speed levels shall apply for the traders.

 

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Could we replace one of the 4th rate Patrol Zones with a 3rd rate patrol zone? 

In the line ships patrol zones there's always many 1st rates and using 3rd rates doesn't generally pay off unless you are lucky that others also take 3rd rates. But with the new Victory DLC, it will be more rare to see other 3rd rates there, I think. 

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Group Training Mission 

A simple mission with free Br where clans could train the players simulating battles without external interference. 

When you take the mission you see the two swords on the map and in Ow the sword with the two circle, team 1, team 2.

No XP. No real. Just lose the ship in the instance battle. In ow you have again the ship 

 

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I don't post much but I have an idea that might unhello kitty things just a little bit. 

 

Everyone starts on equal footing 0

 

Server wide outlaw battles allowed for every nation 

If you chose to sink someone from your own nation you get a mark (red skull) next to your name you are now wanted by anyone and everyone. 

Now the explanation.  If you sink a friendly national you gain infamy per kill, every kill after increases the infamy score (similar to pvp leader board) though it doesn't reset daily.  The only way to lose the red mark is to sail OW days on end and it slowly degrades to 0 unless you are killed. 

But here is the kicked as your infamy rises the bounty pay out rises... FROM YOUR OWN POCKET. 

if you have a 5 million bounty, you sink you pay out of pocket 5 million reals or the equal in doubs, AND I STRESS OUT OF POCKET. 

but it gets better, if you try to enter any port (even your own) you have to bribe an official with a fraction of your bounty say to enter a port witha red skull, you pay 1/2 of your bounty for the right to enter. But still keep the full bounty on your head and while in port or logged out lose no infamy so you can't just port and log for x amount of days. 

 

On the other hand. We have blue skulls next to our name. Known bounty hunters.  You kill a red skull you get honor equal to a 1/3 of the infamy of the red skull....   This is accumulates also. 

People see a blue skull and know that it is someone who is trust worthy in any nation and is out looking for bounties. 

 

Generally a good feeling knowing they won't hit you and you can trade on your merry way.  Or semi protects newer players like a watch dog sort of.  

Now if a blue skull says f it and hits someone the total amount of honor they have suddenly becomes infamy and they get the new red skull and their ass and bank account is on the line. 

And to balance it all out. Only red skulls collect money from killing a blue and add their honor to their personal infamy score... Kind of a reverse bounty for killing a BH. 

At a certain time/score a red skull can not enter any port period until infamy is below X amount 

 

The kicker.... If your grouped with a red skull from your nation and he hits someone you also now have infamy (lesser than he gets being red already) but still you get wanted for being fleeted. 

 

Works in rvr too.... Now people have to have a sense of responsibility for their actions and nations can even police themselves

 

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Fix the Open World Speed

In Combat we have this very detailed sailing profile for every ship, including wind attack angle, wood types, upgrades and books ! Its all there already in the game

  • just multiply this very well worked out Model with the given factor for Open World regarding the wind attack angle
  • when you have fleet ships, the slowest ship for the given wind attack angle sets up the speed for the whole fleet
  • when you took a Wind Boost, just multiply the above made calculation with the given factor
  • DONE ! :) 
  • now its broken !!! :( 

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Fake flag/fake nation
We should be able to display a fake flag/nationality in open world that would enable us up to twice tagging distance to fool an enemy ship of our intention then if getting closer it will  shows his true colors.

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Repairing.

Limit de damage a hull/rig repair can fix each time repair option is used:

1ºs repair up to a 90 % of hull/rig hp ; 2º up to a 80% ;  3º up to a 60% and subsequent ones up to a 50%. This would force captains to decide cleverly when to use their first repairs as they are potentially more efficient.

So we won't see any more ships with more holes than wood but actually with full health.

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Здравствуйте!
Добавьте пожалуйста на карту в бою, радиус патрульной зоны.
Это расширит тактическую составляющую боя в патрульной зоне. 

Hello!
Please add to the map in battle the radius of the patrol zone.
This will expand the tactical component of the battle in the patrol zone.

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PvP ranking system. 

Everything positive you do in all forms of PvP gives you points. Doing all types of damage, winning a boarding, capturing a ship. Points gained increase your PvP ranking. Points can also be exchanged for rewards from admiralty. Like books, permits, notes, guns, repairs, ships, etc. Fighting higher ranked players gives you more points. Rotating weekly events, give you more points depending on the rating of the ship you sail. For example, sailing a 5th rate gives you 30% more points, and changing it by week to other ship ratings. 

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On 4/21/2020 at 8:17 AM, Audacious said:

-NPC offers surrender with it's loot when almost dead. Press accept or decline. 

 

this would be amazing.

 

 

give the reps back to the new players at least.  2 friends started the game.  one yesterday one last week.  The one yesterday quit already cuz he didn't get the same loot as the other one.    The one got a christian permit, endy permit, 1k reps of each type.    Quitter got like 25 hull reps 25 sail reps and 100 rum.   LGV refit, and christian permits.    Not to mention no naval clock.   He already requested a refund on steam too

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NPC Open-World AI:

NPC combat ships tag low/combat-karma players from other nations, and join open battles on friendly side under a separate BR counter (one for NPCs, and one for players) -- allowing for a maximum home-waters advantage of 200% BR (100% from player BR, and 100% from NPCs) before the fight closes due to BR.

Combat ships below 1/2 BR and all trade ships attempt to run from enemy players displaying a warning "enemy encountered" flag/symbol over their head during pursuit, and for another 5 minutes after LoS has been broken.

Players in battle are prompted and get a timed option to "wave off" friendly NPC combat ships trying to join their fight if they so choose. With multiple players, this can done via voting that defaults to allowing the NPC into the fight if not "waved off".

 

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Revision of the permanent slots

Too many refits in the warehouse and also in the game, which nobody uses and still all ships are equipped almost identically?

would be a solution:

Two categories of refits, i call them primary and secondary refits

Every ship has three to four primary refit slots, plus, let's say, 3 secondary
In the primary slots can also be installed secondary refits, but not vice versa

Refits are classified as follows:
Preferably. all refits that affect the structure, speed, manoeuvrability of the ship are primary refits.
All others, which concern the crew and also equipment (e.g. chain ration) are secondary refits, perhaps with some exceptions which help refit-balancing

The exact classification and also number of slots is only a rough suggestion, also which refits are classified in which category would then still have to be decided. e.g. for repair and reload refits. In any case, should all refits that not be too much stackable, classified in the primary class.

the advantages of this principle are, that you have more freedom to customize your ships, not only the "meta refits" will be used, but anyway excessive mod stacking is avoided

 

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Invitational PvP theater in PvE only if both players accept. For example two friends with one challenging and the other accepting face off. This can be disabled in any PvE players settings if they want. 

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Combat repairs changes 

Repair meta is broken as it allows to repair ships to full hp far too easily, removing a lot fun from battles. And making costly mistakes sometimes irrelevant. 

Currently a ship that is fully set up for max repair capability can rebuild its hull/sails from fully damaged back to almost brand new in 2 repair cycles, as if it were a brand new hull that just came off the dock. 

I propose to remove the ability to freely repair your ship while engaged in battle and only make repairs possible while a certain distance away from enemy ships that are engaging your ship. 
Add an additional emergency repair to repair a badly damage internal structure. (small amount and usable during full combat)
Introduce a permanent damage amount to hulls and sails and crew. (for example 10%-20%, so out of all damage taken during a battle 10%-20% of it CANNOT be repaired). So you can never repair all damage taken during a fight, simulating patch up work, rushed repairs and dead crew. So ships that were already badly damaged cannot come back into the fight like nothing happened. 

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A standalone multiplayer boarding minigame.

  • Not that the boarding minigame is my favorite, but I would probably spend $5-$10 on something that I could use to practice strategies against real folks in rapid-fire matches.
  • Me and my fellow plebs would be thankful for the practice. I'm awful at boarding, and I'm one of the better boarders I know. lol
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  • Signal Expert Perk: after being tagged, you automatically send information about battle to other players in nation. It works like logbook, so it marks the battle with a blue crossed sword showing BR and location of battle to all other players in nation for 20 mins (join timer) then it vanishes. Cost 4 points.
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  • Eagle's eye reports: lets you see a bit further than normal in OW, about 10% more. So you can spot enemy ships before they can see you. Costs 500 CM in Admiralty shop and must be fitted on ship in an upgrade slot.
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Let the participants of a PVP battle view the stats of all ships that took part (woods, upgrades, boni) after battle end.

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During BATTLE - Guns repair proposal

  • Guns are repaired during Hull repairs
  • Given the %% of Hull that can be repaired, technically in some situations it will bring back a ship from the dead to fairly "full" condition after two cycles with full guns.
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  • My proposal is to NOT include Guns in the repair cycles. Any gun lost during the combat stays lost.
  • Serves as balance for the repair mechanic.
  • Very long battles will see vessels reduced to token batteries. This is proper.
  • Very short battles reliant on repair books and modules will still be fierce and contested.
  • Gun loss is somewhat tied to the woods used as i experience it. As I see it is one more factor to take into account when selecting which woods to use.
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