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2 minutes ago, Mouth of Sauron said:

Hi Guys.  I’m gonna point fingers and then tell everyone we shouldn’t point fingers.

I counter-finger pointed his finger pointing, indeed

fingers hurting a little now though

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1 minute ago, Mouth of Sauron said:

Hi Guys.  I’m gonna point fingers and then tell everyone we shouldn’t point fingers.

So a do as I say, not as I do style. Think you need to go Sweden first. They have all rights to that move.

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40 minutes ago, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

Well I didn’t flip it. But could actually be there tommorow. Have a couple of days of. Who knows. Anyway our main time is 18-21. But lets see 

oh i do so hope so

because it would be a bad look after all the crying and whining,  that the danes get EXACTLY what they want and then when they get it come up with other reasons to be drama queens and grief - i'm sure not even they would stoop so low

with ZERO complaints i will stay up late so as to make sure that we try and fill this PB at a time that is convenient for you so you get the full PB that you want, at the time of your choice not ours, close to Christensted as you want

and meant sincerely not snarkily, if you want to take me up on my offer of me crafting some ships for you in San Juan with you providing mats (resources, dubs and permits if needed) i still have 3000 labor hours available on an alt at your disposal

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1 hour ago, Liq said:

Almost like russians telling spanish and pirates who they cannot attack else they lose their main crafting port, aha

I dont think we need to start the finger pointing game here

care to elaborate or just ususal propaganda stuff? I am espacially interested in the spanish part and who told them something.

EDIT: Can do on pm if you prefer.

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5 minutes ago, Barents said:

care to elaborate or just ususal propaganda stuff? I am espacially interested in the spanish part and who told them something.

EDIT: Can do on pm if you prefer.

Don't think i need to elaborate on that? Wasn't that the whole reason you left the clan for a day or two?

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2 minutes ago, Liq said:

Don't think i need to elaborate on that? Wasn't that the whole reason you left the clan for a day or two?

I left clan because some Russian told some Spanish NOT to attack someone else? Really?

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24 minutes ago, The Rear End of Sauron said:

oh i do so hope so

Doubt it tho. Do hope I sleep at that time, but if I am up, maybez

because it would be a bad look after all the crying and whining,  that the danes get EXACTLY what they want and then when they get it come up with other reasons to be drama queens and grief - i'm sure not even they would stoop so low

We have actually not gotten all we want. Anyway I really don’t care abouth you timer. Not now where you clearly admins they only have one purpos. Dodge foghts.

with ZERO complaints i will stay up late so as to make sure that we try and fill this PB at a time that is convenient for you so you get the full PB that you want, at the time of your choice not ours, close to Christensted as you want

Wut, why should you stay up, you have plenty Night ppl. As said I care little abouth you timers, now you have admittet they Dodge timers. As said I won’t set my alarm for a Pb. If I am up, Well maybr.

and meant sincerely not snarkily, if you want to take me up on my offer of me crafting some ships for you in San Juan with you providing mats (resources, dubs and permits if needed) i still have 3000 labor hours available on an alt at your disposal

No need I only sail dlc. Casual player. I stopped crafting ships, when they made ships expensive in doubloons and permits.

 

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11 minutes ago, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

We have actually not gotten all we want. Anyway I really don’t care abouth you timer. Not now where you clearly admins they only have one purpos. Dodge foghts.

see my earlier post - the PB for Viques that BOCAR set meets ALL the criteria that Lars was asking for in his OP of this thread, hence me making these comments here

i do so hope the excuses haven't started already

to refresh:

Lars Kjaer stated (my responses in red here)

@admin I would like to know what is to be done to counter the cowardice of abusing timers to avoid fights?
Viques timer was open - time has been set by BOCAR (DANISH CLAN of LArs Kjaer)  to one of BOCAR's choosing

It's been an age old discussion, one we've had since servermerge actually, but it hasn't been abused to the degree that Sweden is doing atm. We (danno-norwegians) has no nighttime fleet, so putting all timers around CS to nighttime effectively rules out DK/NG from RvR,
Viques is VERY close to CS as per your criteria and with an open timer the choice of when to attack is/was 100% in your hands, not ours

No, but it means that one side can't abuse a timer mechanic to grief another side.
Hopefully this odd time hasn't been set by the Danes to do exactly just that 

 

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2 hours ago, Cornelis Evertsen de Oude said:

It's a simple game-mechanic. What Lars is asking is to have fights in his area, that is what this game is about. Point is he also argued in the past that he had an empty pb. That is weird, cause the fact is, when Sweden would put all timers in the same timeframe. And the 2 biggest RvR clans(BF&REDS) cooperate and attack Sweden. And also the Danes than do their hostility. Logic would be Sweden would not be able to fill these. 

So making sure they can defend, has not more options left than making their ports on different timers. If on a global server some are not in your timeframe, go for the ones that are..Cause it's not about ports I heard BOCAR tell everyone, just fghts..

 

Cannot see the issue here Lars??

 

The empty PB was one the swedes set on us, we were the defending side and the swedes basically set the port and no showed. Since then, well we've been doing the same but it has very little to do with RvR or with regional servers.

Atm - and this is actually the case since before the servermerge - the US tz pop and the EU tz pop has very little actual interaction with one another and if the only interaction there is is going to be griefing and troll timers, well then I suggest we cut the bs and make regional servers.

There's a reason why every other MMO out there has regional servers.

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1 hour ago, Tac said:

Please don't interrupt the enemy whilst they walk into a well placed hypocrisy trap.

Not really, you abuse the timers, we've been perfectly clear that we will continue to set PBs and decide wether we want to attend or not.

You did start the no shows you know. And the timers are your own making as well, so enjoy the empty PBs... well empty untill you decide not to show..

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9 minutes ago, Lars Kjaer said:

There's a reason why every other MMO out there has regional servers.

allow me to correct this misconception you keep repeating

There's a reason why every other MMO out there THAT HAS THE PLAYER POPULATION TO NECESSITATE/JUSTIFY IT has regional servers.

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3 hours ago, rediii said:

Noted. Good to know I lose track of all the Havoc alt clans

Apparently you didn't read any further down and totally missed where i admitted to trolling and making that up. In case you hadn't read the title of this thread or the contents of it thus far, there isn't much seriousness here. This is becoming too easy.

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14 minutes ago, Lars Kjaer said:

Not really, you abuse the timers, we've been perfectly clear that we will continue to set PBs and decide wether we want to attend or not.

You did start the no shows you know. And the timers are your own making as well, so enjoy the empty PBs... well empty untill you decide not to show..

addressed previously in this thread in regards to when ANY nation has 3-4 PB's at the same time it has to pick and choose which to attend - i suggest you start making points that further the discussion and potentially find a solution rather than just repeat yourself over and over

otherwise you might be unintentionally giving the impression that this thread wasn't created to find a solution as much as just you bashing on Swedes again

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6 minutes ago, The Rear End of Sauron said:

addressed previously in this thread in regards to when ANY nation has 3-4 PB's at the same time it has to pick and choose which to attend - i suggest you start making points that further the discussion and potentially find a solution rather than just repeat yourself over and over

otherwise you might be unintentionally giving the impression that this thread wasn't created to find a solution as much as just you bashing on Swedes again

Actually I have offered a solution: Regional servers.

And you didn't have 3-4 PBs at the same time, you intentionally set Hat Island in order to not attend and keep us from screening on behalf of the russians.

And you did start the no shows, and the timer dodging. @admin has suggested he has a solution to the no shows, I applaud that, what I'm suggesting is a clean, easy to implement solution to the timerdodging. Feel free to come up with a better solution, if you can.. I think we've tested all solutions before and the only one working without abuse was regional servers.

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not sure what part of "there isn't enough population to split the servers - the servers were merged BECAUSE of low player pop" you're not comprehending

and yes we did have 4 PB's ton that day - also previously addressed in this thread - feel free to go back and find, read, comprehend

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Just now, The Rear End of Sauron said:

not sure what part of "there isn't enough population to split the servers - the servers were merged BECAUSE of low player pop" you're not comprehending

Not sure what part of: Then feel free to come up with your own suggestion that would limit/eliminate abuse, you're not comprehending.

My solution is viable, doable and quite frankly natural. What solution would you propose?

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2 minutes ago, Lars Kjaer said:

Not sure what part of: Then feel free to come up with your own suggestion that would limit/eliminate abuse, you're not comprehending.

My solution is viable, doable and quite frankly natural. What solution would you propose?

i propose you accept the fact that with player pop only allowing for one server that now has players from all around the world playing at different times

i would venture to say that the main reason you are upset has nothing to do with timers since you have clearly stated many times over various threas (Staunberg as well) that Denmark isn't interested in RvR or nation building

you are frustrated because the timers prevent you from coordinating with the russians to set 4-6 PB's against us at the same time with the full knowledge that sweden cannot fill them all, and then you capitalize on that by going into an empty PB and cap the port because we decided to prioritize other PB's

here's an example to illustrate my point:

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so as a solution, if your intentions aren't  to game the system and grief sweden, that sweden will have one port close to CS set on a timer that works for you

does that work for you?

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53 minutes ago, The Rear End of Sauron said:

see my earlier post - the PB for Viques that BOCAR set meets ALL the criteria that Lars was asking for in his OP of this thread, hence me making these comments here

i do so hope the excuses haven't started already

to refresh:

Lars Kjaer stated (my responses in red here)

@admin I would like to know what is to be done to counter the cowardice of abusing timers to avoid fights?
Viques timer was open - time has been set by BOCAR (DANISH CLAN of LArs Kjaer)  to one of BOCAR's choosing

It's been an age old discussion, one we've had since servermerge actually, but it hasn't been abused to the degree that Sweden is doing atm. We (danno-norwegians) has no nighttime fleet, so putting all timers around CS to nighttime effectively rules out DK/NG from RvR,
Viques is VERY close to CS as per your criteria and with an open timer the choice of when to attack is/was 100% in your hands, not ours

No, but it means that one side can't abuse a timer mechanic to grief another side.
Hopefully this odd time hasn't been set by the Danes to do exactly just that 

 

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Actually it does not answer the guestion. One Pb does not change you hide behind Dodge timers. Thats his question.

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2 minutes ago, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

Actually it does not answer the guestion. One Pb does not change you hide behind Dodge timers. Thats his question.

lol - you guys are starting to look like a joke

read his question carefully - it states that sweden are hiding behind port timers for ports that are close to CS and what can admin do about it

sweden has port timer for you at viques that meets all of yoiur requiremnts and still you cry

what you really are asking is "can we force sweden to have PB timers at times that work for denmark, not sweden, so that denmark can coordinate with russia to set multiflips that sweden has no chance of defending them all"

if you are sincere in wanting a PB at a port close to CS that is at a timer that you can choose, then you have it - Viques - which having an open timer (screenshot above) you set at a time of your choosing, not ours

otherwise seriously, stfu and stop the crying

see you there



 

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9 minutes ago, The Rear End of Sauron said:

lol - you guys are starting to look like a joke

oki doki 

read his question carefully - it states that sweden are hiding behind port timers for ports that are close to CS and what can admin do about it

Passaje, Road Town, Spanish Town. Even @Tac and @Liq says it is Dodge timers.

sweden has port timer for you at viques that meets all of yoiur requiremnts and still you cry

One don't change fact it is dodging you do.

what you really are asking is "can we force sweden to have PB timers at times that work for denmark, not sweden, so that denmark can coordinate with russia to set multiflips that sweden has no chance of defending them all"

Actually I am fine with the casual Pb. Personnaly I would rather screen for Russia. More fun.

if you are sincere in wanting a PB at a port close to CS that is at a timer that you can choose, then you have it - Viques - which having an open timer (screenshot above) you set at a time of your choosing, not ours

Guess somebody just is in auto mode and just flipped a port, and didn’t notice it was the only without Dodge timer.

otherwise seriously, stfu and stop the crying

So beside telling us not to fight Sweden, you also demand the right to  tell us what to say and think. 

see you there

Doubt it. Think I plenty of times have said I don't get up to do a Pb. 



 

Now where Sweden are true and have admittet it is dodging timers. I am fine. 
Now we maybe can spend time on the issue. Is it ok for a nation to use Dodge timers to, avoid fights.

You say you like a good fight with Russia, yeth your Dodge timers hurt them. To my knowledge they don't hide behind them. I would think, in a good spirit of a fair fight, you should fight them on egual terms. No Dodge timers. Thats the question.

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7 minutes ago, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

Now where Sweden are true and have admittet it is dodging timers. I am fine. 
Now we maybe can spend time on the issue. Is it ok for a nation to use Dodge timers to, avoid fights.

You say you like a good fight with Russia, yeth your Dodge timers hurt them. To my knowledge they don't hide behind them. I would think, in a good spirit of a fair fight, you should fight them on egual terms. No Dodge timers. Thats the question.

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where we differ is we don't have a problem with them setting a timer for when works for them - it is their right

 

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6 minutes ago, The Rear End of Sauron said:

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where we differ is we don't have a problem with them setting a timer for when works for them - it is their right

 

And yet, Sweden has admitted that the timers around CS is basically troll timers. Wasn't it @Liq who stated: Troll redoubtables, troll timers.

I don't know the MRGA clan, there is a possibility that they are in fact US tz players. CABAL and HAVOC isn't however. They are predominantly european and only uses timerdodging to avoid fights. I actually don't mind players using mechanics to their advantage, I just don't see the game being better for it - hence I suggest a mechanics change. The only solution, to get a playable game for all, is regional servers. IF you have a better solution, please feel free to come up with one that hasn't already been tested.

As for the no shows, well keep shitty timers, have a shitty time in port.

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On 3/22/2020 at 2:50 PM, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

Why to save the us, you are for one server, but with chinese you are for 2. There will allways be a zerg in this game, and I am not sure they will be so big. The war this game is about, where more an european thing, so not sure it would appeal chinese.

Actually I was talking about mechanic abusing and cheating, not zerging. 

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